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Published on September 3rd, 2014 | by James Ayre

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Tesla’s Covertly Installing Wall Chargers At Locations Across The Country

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September 3rd, 2014 by
 
teslalogoSo you’ve no doubt heard of Tesla’s nationwide high-speed EV Supercharger network, right? But have you heard of the company’s other charging network?

No, huh? Well you’re not the only one. It turns out that Tesla has been installing high-power wall chargers at hotels, restaurants, beaches, boardwalks, etc, around the country for some time now.

While not quite as high-powered as the Supercharger stations, the chargers will certainly add quite a boost to your battery — an hour of charging at these adds around 58 miles of range. Which means that these chargers are somewhere around twice as fast as the standard 240-volt chargers found at many other charging facilities.

The Wall Street Journal provides more:

Tesla has been rolling these out quickly across the country as a convenience to customers. The company says 106 of them have been installed since the program began this spring, with more coming online daily. Like the Superchargers, they are free to use for Tesla owners. They don’t work with other electric cars.

Unlike the Superchargers, which function more like gas stations, located off of major routes, these wall chargers are designed for destinations. Teslas can also use standard charging stations with the use of an adapter that comes with the car.

According to Tesla spokeswoman Alexis Georgeson, there isn’t any set plan in place — the number to be installed in the future isn’t set. Given the fact that the Supercharger network is itself quite comprehensive, this other network is more a supplement than anything. The company’s current plan is to have the Supercharger network provide service to at least 98% of the American and Canadian populations by the end of next year.

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  • lwj01998

    I know Tesla has some supercharge stations in Canada now. I imagine they will be planning a network of superchargers across the main highway number one. For the colder winter driving they would have to be at a shorter range apart.

  • Fact

    it irks me that Teslas come with an adapter…. how long until the other ev’s come with an adapter?

    • sault

      That’s akin to asking how long will it take for mobile Apple products to be able to charge on other companies’ charging plugs.

      • Fact

        excuse me if i disagree. i believe there is a stark difference between a $35k product and a sub $1k product. Further, considering that there is a large contingent of customers that are apprehensive about switching to ev as a whole due to the lack of infrastructure, spending resources in diverging the infrastructure will impede the growth of EVs as a whole in the short-medium term. This is not good news. Long-term is anyone’s guess, but convinving people to make changes now will have larger impacts on climate change.

    • Offgridman

      “how long until the other EV’s come with an adapter?”
      Just as soon as there is enough of them for the secondary market to see a profit in making them.
      Just like there are all sorts of adapters for Apple products to plug into USB.
      Fortunately for the Tesla customers the company doesn’t want to them to wait on that secondary market.
      The better question might be is why don’t the other EV manufacturers do the same thing for their customers.

      • Fact

        They probably don’t already do it because of the fact that the Tesla charging stations are not as abundant. Further, i believe they all chose the standard for charging stations. Much like there was a decision for the single liquid fuel interface

        • Offgridman

          There may continue to be a variety of charging networks and connectors, according to different battery sizes and manufacturer concessions on pricing.
          I don’t think that there was ever any decisions for a single liquid fuel interface, more just a result of markets in different places choosing what worked best at the time. In addition to gas and diesel cars have been powered by kerosene, wood alcohol even coal and wood in the case of some of the early steam drives. The oil companies were big drivers towards the use of gas and diesel when the car industry started because of a big surplus of that black goop coming out of the ground that they didn’t have enough market for. Even at that time people realized that electric drives were better, but not having the battery technology and the relative inexpensive costs of fossil fuels led to their being the primary energy source for vehicles.

    • http://jpwhitehome.wordpress.com JP White

      Depends what you mean by an adapter, Adapters are available on the aftermarket for all EV’s. EVSEUpgrade comes to mind.

      http://jpwhitenissanleaf.com/2012/09/20/charging-away-from-home-cables-and-adapters-for-the-ev-driver/

      An adapter that will work with Tesla charging stations. Now that would be a great adapter for someone to create. The OEM’s won’t unless they enter into an agreement with Tesla, its up to a third party to develop Tesla adapters for other EV’s.

  • DGW

    I suppose these charging outlets are being installed as a selling feature for the next Tesla 3 model more than they’ll actually get used. How much is this costing Tesla?
    What if there are 2 Tesla cars but one outlet at your hotel?

    • Bob_Wallace

      Just doing some guessing. I’ve read ~$35k per charge bay. And if you buy the lower model S you can get free access to the supercharger system for $2k. That leads me to believe that there’s a $2k supercharger cost built into the top level S.

      Doing simple math on perhaps correct numbers, 17.5 Tesla Ss pay for a supercharger bay.

      More than 25,000 Tesla Ss have been sold to date. If 50% of them pay $2k directly or indirectly that’s $25 million. Enough for 714 charging bays. Looks like there are 183 in place today.

      Tesla may be paying nothing.

      More EVs than outlets? Reservations.

      • TedKidd

        183 stations, usually 6-8 bays at a station.

        Kinda surprised you aren’t both brand advocate and subject matter expert on Tesla. Here are some links I’ve collected:

        http://bit.ly/superchargersNmore
        http://bit.ly/findteslalocations
        http://bit.ly/TESLAsuperchargerMap

        http://bit.ly/Tcooltestamonialvid
        http://bit.ly/tetontesla
        http://bit.ly/TKTeslaThroughGlass
        http://bit.ly/Nexus10teslaapp

        http://bit.ly/physProfonBatteries
        http://bit.ly/1sduSsW

        If you want to browse all my bitlinks – here are the keys:
        http://bit.ly/TedKiddSavedLinks

        • Bob_Wallace

          I admire what Tesla is doing but they aren’t (yet) building a car for me so I’m not tracking them closely.

          I don’t feel like digging through all your links. Do you have a different “per bay” price?

          If there are an average of 7 bays per charging station and it’s $35k per bay then Tesla has spent about $45 million on superchargers. That may mean that they are spending faster than they are collecting.

          But, as someone pointed out on a Tesla forum, “Ford’s advertising budget is $4,700,000,000″. I suspect Tesla is spending their money more wisely than is Ford. Their superchargers get a lot of free press.

          • Kyle Field

            whenever I see numbers of that scale…it makes me wonder “what if they spent that on X or Y”. Here, I would swap that for Battery Tech and EVs…crazy if you ask me.

          • Bob_Wallace

            It feels to me that Musk and Tesla may make over the car manufacturing business. Some bright folks must have had a sit down early on and made a list of all the stupid and unnecessary things car companies do and figured out how to do it differently.

            Build cars people really, really want. Then you don’t need to advertise.

            Sell directly and don’t give up profits to dealers. Or use the savings to cut your costs and drive up volume.

            Treat customers well. Very well. Build brand loyalty through great service.

            I’m just hoping that we find out they treat their employees nicely. That would pretty much round it out for me.

          • jeffhre

            They had a lot of sit downs about what they could and could not afford as a start-up company. A lot of the stupid (legacy?) stuff seems to have disappeared from just acknowledging their financial restraints. They can’t recreate the ICE car maker’s business, as every failed automotive start-up has also (for the most part unwittingly) discovered.

          • Kyle Field

            Agree and I really enjoy their approach. Not just a new business model for the auto industry…but a new way to think about business altogether (focus on making a product that best meets the needs of the customers, “do no evil” as coined by Google…)

          • TedKidd

            1. Not per bay, but $250k per supercharger is another number I’ve seen.

            2. Supercharger completely distinguishes this brand from the competition. It doesnt need to be a profit center.

            Teslas approach makes long trips BETTER than ice trips by removing a lot of anxiety. In recent long trips I realized having where to stop predetermined would have been really nice. Having free time beyond standing next to the car as it filled, and peeing, sounds pretty nice too. 20-30 minutes is just right every 150-200 miles.

          • Bob_Wallace

            2013

            “Musk said the stations cost $150,000 without solar and $300,000 if they have solar panels.”

            http://green.autoblog.com/2013/05/30/tesla-supercharger-network-goes-nationwide-gets-faster-w-video/

            That’s the price of a full station which can have four or six stalls or bays.

            2012

            The devices cost about $250,000 each and can power four to six cars at one time, Musk said

            http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-24/tesla-building-250-000-chargers-for-model-s-drivers-in-highways

      • Neil

        I thought he was asking about the chargers that do 58miles per hour- much less than the 170 per 30 mins super charger. Those wall chargers sell on tesla website for $1200 retail.. Yet to get the full effect (58mi per hr) you have to pay for the $1500 twin chargers (otherwise I think it’s only around half or 28miles per hour?).

        So, assuming install cost is only $1000 or less, it would make sense to install a lot of those at other over night or meal/shopping locations.

        My question is how do owners know where the non-super chargers are located? Maybe there is a secret spot on their maps in the vehicles.

        I’m still hopeful they come out with a better battery over next few years so maybe the model x will depreciate well enough to afford. While I know the batteries will be switchable, one can only hope!

        • Bob_Wallace

          There are a number of sites that put up maps of where chargers can be found. Just picking the first one that popped up-

          http://www.plugshare.com/

          They’ve got four classes you can search – shared residential (You can plug in at my house), public stations, rapid/supercharger stations, and stations currently in use.

          I’d think that this sort of info would be built into EV navigation systems, if not now, then soon.

          If you tell your EV where you’re going (set an endpoint for the GPS) then you should get alerts as you drive which would optimize your charging experience and keep you from running flat. (Unless you’re one of us many males who have trouble taking direction.)

    • Offgridman

      “What if there are 2 Tesla cars but one outlet at your hotel?”
      Well seeing as how 58 miles of charge are added per hour of use at these stations according to the article, you would hope that the first person there comes and disconnects after the approximate four hours needed to fill up, when their app notify’s them to give you your turn. Otherwise the Tesla app does give you the opportunity to send a polite reminder that their car is full, so please come and move so someone else can get a turn.

      • jeffhre

        Just ask the valet parking staff to keep an eye on it, and plug you in when the other car is charged.

        Locations? When Roadster owners made requests for chargers like this at various locations, Tesla did respond with some requested installations. So it’s likely that there is at least some customer input driving these installs as well.

      • Kyle Field

        and the reality is that almost nobody will need a full fill up…This does touch on the interesting social dynamics we’re going to see at charging stations.
        “Another case of charge rage at the Marriot in Tuscon yesterday as a mother of 8 attacked an unsuspecting Volt owner who inadvertently left his car at the only charger in the lot for 8 hours instead of the hour that was needed, leaving the mother stranded, miles from home”

        • Offgridman

          While I was saddened to learn of charge rage as it is the first time for me to hear about it, after thinking a few minutes realized there may be a positive. Stories like this should help to dispel the myths that EV’s are only being used by left wing peacenik’s. Right? :-)

    • Matt

      If staying at a hotel you are there more than 2 hours.

    • TedKidd

      Then you plug into a regular socket and charge slowely. The Tesla site has pretty good explanation of various charging rates.

      The Tesla plug is a great design. One plug to the car handles all different charging rates, AC and DC. Really elegant when compared to the clunky other devices out there.

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