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Published on December 29th, 2009 | by Zachary Shahan

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New "Cap & Rebate" Climate Bill Proposal Will Give You $1,100 a Year?

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December 29th, 2009 by Zachary Shahan 

A new climate bill proposal with bi-partisan and moderate-Democrat support changes a few critical features from previous proposals, but it still seems to keep to the aim. Supposedly, the (Cantwell-Collins) bill would achieve a 20% reduction in greenhouse gases by 2020 and an 83% reduction by 2050.

Not only that, but it would also give a monthly refund of about $100 to a family of four, refunding approximately 75% of all revenue to US residents.

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There are criticisms of the bill, of course, such as that it may take a long time for emissions reductions to start up and may not generate significant investment in clean tech.

However, given the political fatigue in Congress after the healthcare bill, a simple (currently 39 pages), widely supported bill that gives money back to the residents, may be just the thing we need if anything is going to get passed this year.

Additionally, this proposed bill does NOT include a carbon offset program, a key point of criticism for environmentalists opposed to cap and trade. So, it may be able to pull a large portion of the environmentalist contingent who are against cap and trade.

Is this the bill we have been waiting for?

For a more in-depth discussion of this proposed bill, take yourself over to ecopolitology.

via ecopolitology and Care2

Related Stories:

1) Reducing CO2: ‘Cap and Trade’ or ‘Fee and Dividend’?

2) CBO Scores Senate Climate Bill – Will Save $21 Billion in First 10 Years

3) Senate Climate Bill Goes After Only 2% of American Businesses

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  • T. Luxe

    Well, it looks like the “cap and trade” party is over. With 60% of the vote in, Brown is ahead by 6% in Mass. Some will deny it, but this Senatorial election is the final nail in the AGW coffin since the Senate no longer has enough of a majority to even get the Cap and Trade bill to the floor. Scott Brown has just won a seat which was held by uber liberal Ted Kennedy for 47 years. The message to the Obama administration is clear…. “enough of this nonsense, we are taking back our country!”” The people have spoken and Cap and Trade is now DOA in the senate. No Cap and Trade in the USA, and Europe and Japan will soon abandon their carbon trading programs. As John Stewart said… “poor Al Gore, debunked by the very internet he invented!!” No way that Brown can loose now. Its a sorry day for true believers like Zachery, but reality is reality. Might as well move on to a new cause!

  • T. Luxe

    Well, it looks like the “cap and trade” party is over. With 60% of the vote in, Brown is ahead by 6% in Mass. Some will deny it, but this Senatorial election is the final nail in the AGW coffin since the Senate no longer has enough of a majority to even get the Cap and Trade bill to the floor. Scott Brown has just won a seat which was held by uber liberal Ted Kennedy for 47 years. The message to the Obama administration is clear…. “enough of this nonsense, we are taking back our country!”” The people have spoken and Cap and Trade is now DOA in the senate. No Cap and Trade in the USA, and Europe and Japan will soon abandon their carbon trading programs. As John Stewart said… “poor Al Gore, debunked by the very internet he invented!!” No way that Brown can loose now. Its a sorry day for true believers like Zachery, but reality is reality. Might as well move on to a new cause!

  • T. Luxe

    Well, it looks like the “cap and trade” party is over. With 60% of the vote in, Brown is ahead by 6% in Mass. Some will deny it, but this Senatorial election is the final nail in the AGW coffin since the Senate no longer has enough of a majority to even get the Cap and Trade bill to the floor. Scott Brown has just won a seat which was held by uber liberal Ted Kennedy for 47 years. The message to the Obama administration is clear…. “enough of this nonsense, we are taking back our country!”” The people have spoken and Cap and Trade is now DOA in the senate. No Cap and Trade in the USA, and Europe and Japan will soon abandon their carbon trading programs. As John Stewart said… “poor Al Gore, debunked by the very internet he invented!!” No way that Brown can loose now. Its a sorry day for true believers like Zachery, but reality is reality. Might as well move on to a new cause!

  • T. Luxe

    I hope all who see this article realize that those “smoke stacks” that are always shown with this type of propaganda, are actually spewing out mostly harmless steam. When electricity is produced by burning coal or natural gas of with nuclear energy, it is accomplished by boiling water which than turns a turbine/generator. If this same water vapor was comming from the tailpipes of a hundred million hydrogen cell powered automobiles, it would be portrayed as being a huge benefit to mother earth.

    The simple truths are: Atmospheric CO2 now exists at a total level of less than .04%. Thats 1/400th of percent. Of this man has added, at most, .005%. It is H2O that is responsible for at least 95% of the greenhouse warming impact. If the US successfully reduced CO2 emissions by 42% (that would be over 50% per capita) by 2030, without the cooperation of India and China, the net impact on atmospheric CO2 would be “AT MOST” 1-2 ppm. What nut case would be willing to wreck our economy for 1-2 ppm? Anyone who wants to confirm that figure can do so by visiting the US EIA (a division of the US Dept. of Energy)web site. Google it. At that web site can be found the current projecions for global CO2 production through 2030 and US CO2 production est. through 2030. Simply compute the CO2 ppm/v using this data. First estimate the undadjusted US and than use the adjusted US numbers CO2 production number reducing CO2 by 42% from 2000 actual. Correlate the historic atmospheric CO2 increases in ppm vs historic World CO2 production in GT. FYI, since 1980, according to the EIA the world has produced 663.5 G tons of CO2 from the use of fossil fuels. During that time period atmospheric CO2 has increased from 339 PPM to 386 PPM. In my estimate, I assume the most extreme case in which all of that increase is the result of man’s use of fossil fuels. That is probably not true since the temp of the ocean has warmed during this time which would increase outgassing of CO2.

    India and China will not cooperate because they realize this is CO2 hytsteria is all nonsense and they will use their abundant domestic coal supplies as they attempt to move their populations out of dire poverty. They think it is rediculous that westerners driving around in 5000 pound SUVs should be telling the poorest people who are riding bicycles that they should never hope to own a moped, TV or computer!

  • T. Luxe

    I hope all who see this article realize that those “smoke stacks” that are always shown with this type of propaganda, are actually spewing out mostly harmless steam. When electricity is produced by burning coal or natural gas of with nuclear energy, it is accomplished by boiling water which than turns a turbine/generator. If this same water vapor was comming from the tailpipes of a hundred million hydrogen cell powered automobiles, it would be portrayed as being a huge benefit to mother earth.

    The simple truths are: Atmospheric CO2 now exists at a total level of less than .04%. Thats 1/400th of percent. Of this man has added, at most, .005%. It is H2O that is responsible for at least 95% of the greenhouse warming impact. If the US successfully reduced CO2 emissions by 42% (that would be over 50% per capita) by 2030, without the cooperation of India and China, the net impact on atmospheric CO2 would be “AT MOST” 1-2 ppm. What nut case would be willing to wreck our economy for 1-2 ppm? Anyone who wants to confirm that figure can do so by visiting the US EIA (a division of the US Dept. of Energy)web site. Google it. At that web site can be found the current projecions for global CO2 production through 2030 and US CO2 production est. through 2030. Simply compute the CO2 ppm/v using this data. First estimate the undadjusted US and than use the adjusted US numbers CO2 production number reducing CO2 by 42% from 2000 actual. Correlate the historic atmospheric CO2 increases in ppm vs historic World CO2 production in GT. FYI, since 1980, according to the EIA the world has produced 663.5 G tons of CO2 from the use of fossil fuels. During that time period atmospheric CO2 has increased from 339 PPM to 386 PPM. In my estimate, I assume the most extreme case in which all of that increase is the result of man’s use of fossil fuels. That is probably not true since the temp of the ocean has warmed during this time which would increase outgassing of CO2.

    India and China will not cooperate because they realize this is CO2 hytsteria is all nonsense and they will use their abundant domestic coal supplies as they attempt to move their populations out of dire poverty. They think it is rediculous that westerners driving around in 5000 pound SUVs should be telling the poorest people who are riding bicycles that they should never hope to own a moped, TV or computer!

  • T. Luxe

    I hope all who see this article realize that those “smoke stacks” that are always shown with this type of propaganda, are actually spewing out mostly harmless steam. When electricity is produced by burning coal or natural gas of with nuclear energy, it is accomplished by boiling water which than turns a turbine/generator. If this same water vapor was comming from the tailpipes of a hundred million hydrogen cell powered automobiles, it would be portrayed as being a huge benefit to mother earth.

    The simple truths are: Atmospheric CO2 now exists at a total level of less than .04%. Thats 1/400th of percent. Of this man has added, at most, .005%. It is H2O that is responsible for at least 95% of the greenhouse warming impact. If the US successfully reduced CO2 emissions by 42% (that would be over 50% per capita) by 2030, without the cooperation of India and China, the net impact on atmospheric CO2 would be “AT MOST” 1-2 ppm. What nut case would be willing to wreck our economy for 1-2 ppm? Anyone who wants to confirm that figure can do so by visiting the US EIA (a division of the US Dept. of Energy)web site. Google it. At that web site can be found the current projecions for global CO2 production through 2030 and US CO2 production est. through 2030. Simply compute the CO2 ppm/v using this data. First estimate the undadjusted US and than use the adjusted US numbers CO2 production number reducing CO2 by 42% from 2000 actual. Correlate the historic atmospheric CO2 increases in ppm vs historic World CO2 production in GT. FYI, since 1980, according to the EIA the world has produced 663.5 G tons of CO2 from the use of fossil fuels. During that time period atmospheric CO2 has increased from 339 PPM to 386 PPM. In my estimate, I assume the most extreme case in which all of that increase is the result of man’s use of fossil fuels. That is probably not true since the temp of the ocean has warmed during this time which would increase outgassing of CO2.

    India and China will not cooperate because they realize this is CO2 hytsteria is all nonsense and they will use their abundant domestic coal supplies as they attempt to move their populations out of dire poverty. They think it is rediculous that westerners driving around in 5000 pound SUVs should be telling the poorest people who are riding bicycles that they should never hope to own a moped, TV or computer!

  • T. Luxe

    I hope all who see this article realize that those “smoke stacks” that are always shown with this type of propaganda, are actually spewing out mostly harmless steam. When electricity is produced by burning coal or natural gas of with nuclear energy, it is accomplished by boiling water which than turns a turbine/generator. If this same water vapor was comming from the tailpipes of a hundred million hydrogen cell powered automobiles, it would be portrayed as being a huge benefit to mother earth.

    The simple truths are: Atmospheric CO2 now exists at a total level of less than .04%. Thats 1/400th of percent. Of this man has added, at most, .005%. It is H2O that is responsible for at least 95% of the greenhouse warming impact. If the US successfully reduced CO2 emissions by 42% (that would be over 50% per capita) by 2030, without the cooperation of India and China, the net impact on atmospheric CO2 would be “AT MOST” 1-2 ppm. What nut case would be willing to wreck our economy for 1-2 ppm? Anyone who wants to confirm that figure can do so by visiting the US EIA (a division of the US Dept. of Energy)web site. Google it. At that web site can be found the current projecions for global CO2 production through 2030 and US CO2 production est. through 2030. Simply compute the CO2 ppm/v using this data. First estimate the undadjusted US and than use the adjusted US numbers CO2 production number reducing CO2 by 42% from 2000 actual. Correlate the historic atmospheric CO2 increases in ppm vs historic World CO2 production in GT. FYI, since 1980, according to the EIA the world has produced 663.5 G tons of CO2 from the use of fossil fuels. During that time period atmospheric CO2 has increased from 339 PPM to 386 PPM. In my estimate, I assume the most extreme case in which all of that increase is the result of man’s use of fossil fuels. That is probably not true since the temp of the ocean has warmed during this time which would increase outgassing of CO2.

    India and China will not cooperate because they realize this is CO2 hytsteria is all nonsense and they will use their abundant domestic coal supplies as they attempt to move their populations out of dire poverty. They think it is rediculous that westerners driving around in 5000 pound SUVs should be telling the poorest people who are riding bicycles that they should never hope to own a moped, TV or computer!

  • Aaron Needham

    All of these plans are missing the fundamental purpose of the carbon credit industry and funneling money where it is suppose to go. You must pay people to be Green and give them an ROI of less then three years. They need to focus on the carbon foot print to qualify for the use of some of the credits.

    Why are we not talking about the technology that is available to consumer and equity position holders of properties to lower emissions and create a residual income for them. They are talking about lower the emissions so far away and when the technology and the funds are available now to meet a 20% reduction with ROI of less then one year.

    We need education and we need people to investigate what is available. Money strings are loosing up, and the technology is there. Cap and trade is going to be a billion dollar business for all those that understand it.

  • Aaron Needham

    All of these plans are missing the fundamental purpose of the carbon credit industry and funneling money where it is suppose to go. You must pay people to be Green and give them an ROI of less then three years. They need to focus on the carbon foot print to qualify for the use of some of the credits.

    Why are we not talking about the technology that is available to consumer and equity position holders of properties to lower emissions and create a residual income for them. They are talking about lower the emissions so far away and when the technology and the funds are available now to meet a 20% reduction with ROI of less then one year.

    We need education and we need people to investigate what is available. Money strings are loosing up, and the technology is there. Cap and trade is going to be a billion dollar business for all those that understand it.

  • Aaron Needham

    All of these plans are missing the fundamental purpose of the carbon credit industry and funneling money where it is suppose to go. You must pay people to be Green and give them an ROI of less then three years. They need to focus on the carbon foot print to qualify for the use of some of the credits.

    Why are we not talking about the technology that is available to consumer and equity position holders of properties to lower emissions and create a residual income for them. They are talking about lower the emissions so far away and when the technology and the funds are available now to meet a 20% reduction with ROI of less then one year.

    We need education and we need people to investigate what is available. Money strings are loosing up, and the technology is there. Cap and trade is going to be a billion dollar business for all those that understand it.

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