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Published on February 27th, 2016 | by Guest Contributor

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Al Gore Poses Three Questions That Will Determine The Future Of Earth

February 27th, 2016 by  

Originally published on The Climate Reality Project.

In his latest TED talk, Al Gore, founder and chairman of The Climate Reality Project, poses three questions that will determine the future of our planet – and why there’s good reason to be optimistic.

Under the rubric “Ideas worth spreading,” each year, the TED (Technology, Entertainment, and Design) conference brings together a collection of the world’s most compelling, surprising, and original thinkers to connect and explore the themes, factors, and forces shaping our world today – and pointing to our world of tomorrow.

The theme of this year’s conference in Vancouver, British Columbia – which ran February 15—19 – was “Dream.” TED curators invited Climate Reality Chairman Al Gore to headline the “Nightmares” session. But instead of focusing exclusively on the terrifying aspects of climate change, former Vice President Gore turned the topic on its head, outlining why he’s optimistic and why – even in the face of rising seas and melting glaciers – we can dare to dream of a safe and sustainable future planet. Here are three ideas worth spreading from the talk.

1. Do we really have to change?

The challenge came first. Each day, manmade greenhouse gas pollution traps the same amount of heat energy as would be released by 400,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs. This trapped heat is warming the oceans and increasing the water vapor and energy in our atmosphere, leading to stronger storms, more extreme floods, increasingly long droughts, and other results he characterized as “a nature hike through the Book of Revelations.”

2. Can we change?

Fortunately, we’ve already started to change. Renewable energy is growing exponentially. In fact, its growth has significantly beaten expert projections time and time again. And the cost of solar energy has come down around 10 percent every year for the past 30 years. With all this expansion, the renewable energy transition could very well be the biggest business opportunity in the world right now.

3. Will we change?

This question is up to us – all of us – right now. In December 2015, 195 countries approved the Paris Agreement on climate change and agreed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. It was truly a breakthrough after decades of failed attempts. And around the world, from China to India to the US, countries are adding more and more capacity in renewable energy (in fact, 69 percent of new electrical capacity added in the US last year came from renewables). The change is happening – what’s up to us right now is how long we take to get there.

“When any great moral challenge is resolved into choice between right and wrong, the outcome is preordained because of who we are. That is why we are going to win this.”

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  • Darrell Anthony

    Just do what Austrailia is doing. Fire all the climate research scientist. Use their salaries and we could have renewable energy in 5 to 10 years. Why bother quoting Gore the Joke.

  • Karl the brewer

    Goodness it’s a bit grumpy in here today. Time for a glass of milk and a nap methinks 😉

  • Ivor O’Connor

    I’d bet Al Gore would have been worse than Obama. Who was worse than Bush. And these simplistic questions he poses have simple answers. Yes, yes, and yes. Why does he even ask?

  • Ewa Sufin-Jacquemart

    If the trade and investment agreements like TPP, TTIP, CETA, TISA come into force, all the efforts to stop or reduce climate change will be neutralized by the failure of local sustainable agriculture and local small business – as local public procurements will be liberalized and food security standards will be considered as equal, in Polish schools our children will have to eat cheaper geneticaly modified industrial food from California, Arizona or Canada (with CO2 emissions of industrial farming and cross ocean transport) instead of good natural food from small local farmers. TPP, TTIP, CETA and TISA are incompatible with Paris climate agreement! #stopTTIP #stopCETA #stopTISA

    • Ivor O’Connor

      How does Obama come down on TPP?

  • John Moore

    Well, it looks like the level of discourse on this thread has dipped below our usual standard of intelligent, friendly banter. I myself couldn’t resist liting into someone below. I partly regret it.
    It seems the trouble started when a couple of guys (you know who you are), decided that they had to tell the rest of us that Al Gore had no right to tell 7,500,000,000 people that they are in danger of causing human extinction by our collective use of fossil fuels. Now, why, you ask, should Al Gore not have the gall to express such an opinion, one that is designed to try to save mankind from extinction? Because he has had the temerity TO RIDE IN AIRPLANES, PROVING THAT HE IS EVIL.
    Now I don’t know what these people’s problems are, but, please, try to come up with a better reason to wail on Al Gore. Come on, it’s like, embarrassing.
    And Reily, look, I don’t want to make an enemy of you. But really, the sheer volume of your sh*t talking on this thread. Please.

    • Riely Rumfort

      ….ZzzzzZz
      Believe it or not Al Gore didn’t discover the topic..
      Nothing I said was incorrect, there are more ecological ways to spread information. The fact that you took such offense shows more of Mr.Moore than myself.

      As I said, I don’t disparage or disregard the measure. Just the method of dispersal/inoculation.

      • John Moore

        Nothing you said was incorrect? How about this?
        “If you fly a jet you pollute as much as 10-20,000 cars traveling the same distance.” I don’t think we have to consult an expert on that, but I will if you want. But I’m just gonna guess that when Al Gore takes that charter plane, the one that seats 24 people, and flies 1,000 miles in it, that is not exactly more pollution than 20,000 cars would put out travelling that same thousand miles. If he flies on a commercial 787, maybe he is the only passenger, or something. Even then.
        Look, it just doesn’t make sense to me to criticize the one person on earth who has done more to bring this danger to the attention of the world than anyone else alive.

        • Riely Rumfort

          He was flying a private jet initially, as was Dicaprio..

        • Riely Rumfort

          I was honestly just trying to shame the act it’s more like 500-700 times comparing private jet with a single car.
          For some reason I was thinking of the Radiative figure Atmopheric multiplier as (50)40-80x when it was actually 2-4 times the impact on GHG. So what should have been 500-700 became what would be 10,000-14,000.

        • globi

          Well, maybe it’s different when one lived in Europe. But climate change was already common knowledge in the 1990’s.
          It wasn’t before about 2000’s when all of a sudden there was this climate change doubt talk, which I think most people in Europe didn’t take all too seriously.

          What I think they did believe is that renewables and efficiency measures apparently don’t work or are not enough, which is why it would have been far better if the message “renewables and efficiency measures work and are enough” would have been portrayed by people such as Al Gore.
          It would have been much easier to sell too – for example, “Look, 19 of the hijackers came from the biggest oil producing country.” we therefore need to introduce a freedom tax to rid of this deadly dependency.

    • Zorba

      Yes, how dare I point out that someone posing as an environmental champion has a ridiculously profligate lifestyle (which goes far beyond just the flying) which he could easily adjust if he wanted to have credibility on this issue. I know, I know, I should fit in with the echo chamber, this is no place to raise these inconvenient truths. I’ll do my best to fit in with the herd in future. And I take full responsibility for the decline in the level of discourse as I deserved the childish name-calling which was hurled in my direction.

      • Riely Rumfort

        A herd of 2, United we Stand.

      • Ivor O’Connor

        Al Gore has primarily pointed out that CO2 needs to be kept within a certain range or our planets habitat will change in the same way the planet Venus has.

        With the unlimited solar and wind energy we now have there is no need to conserve energy. Just the opposite. Wind and solar allow you to have more clean energy at a fraction of the price fossil based energy permitted.

        Gore, in his drama filled presentations, convinces the emotionally weak they are energy sinners. Similar to Jesus based religions with their “he died for your sins” talk. Apparently this resonates with much of the human race. However on the plus side he ends up with results that are needed for our planet.

  • Ross

    If the change is 0-60mph in 3.2 seconds, clean air, and a better economy, that’s the kind of change that’s easy to get behind.

  • jburt56

    All yes before 2025.

    • Riely Rumfort

      Dreamer. ;P

      • jburt56

        Solar should be at least 10x current levels by then or > 500 GWp / year production.

        • Riely Rumfort

          Yep, it’ll absorb the pollution of population growth, by 2050 globally we’ll pollute 5-15% less than today. I’m so proud of us..

  • vensonata

    Al Gore is a charming, funny man who is also an astute politician and now businessman. He made the world aware of human caused climate change in an effective way. And as I would fully expect from many Americans on the right, they hate him for it. The world has a long history of doing that doesn’t it? They detest progressive ideas and instead fall in love with dictators. Remember the beloved George Wallace? Joe McCarthy? Creepy right? Who loved these guys, and who hated the liberal left that opposed their ideologies?

    • Zorba

      Well, if that was aimed at me I’m anything but an “American on the right” but I also can’t stand Al Gore. To me he’s the ultimate hypocrite. But I guess on this site I’ll be in the minority on that issue so I’ll leave this thread to the Al Gore love-in. Still, at least he invented the internet so I can express this opinion, I’ll give him that.

      • vensonata

        You are repeating an argument from the right: that wealthy people who fly on planes to inform the world about climate change are hypocrites. No, that is not a good argument, since there is precious little choice about traveling long distances at this time, but if we solve the technical issues that will soon not be the case. And the fact of wealth is not somehow evil in itself. What you do with it and how you made it determines your moral relationship to it.

        • Zorba

          So he has no choice but to use a private jet? Come on. This article from Forbes summed it up for me (won’t post the link as that gets my posts stuck in a mod queue for some reason, here is an extract):

          “Did you hear the joke about the father of four telling everybody that overpopulation is killing the planet? Well, it’s not a joke, it’s Al Gore. Just when we thought we could go more than a month or two without new evidence of Al saying one thing and doing another, the father of four is taking hypocrisy to a new low, hectoring people about their need to make smarter birth choices to save the planet.

          At some point in time we have to wonder whether Al is really this buffoonish, or whether he is a paid mole of the fossil fuel industry, cleverly taking on the role of Most Visible Global Warming Opponent only to purposefully sabotage the green agenda by offending absolutely everybody with his appalling hypocrisy.

          Scene One: Here is Al Gore delivering the unwelcome news that we all need to tighten our belts and live more frugal lives, all while he is living in his enormous Tennessee mansion, sucking up more electricity in a single month than most of his Nashville neighbors use in an entire year.

          Scene Two: Here is Al Gore flying a private jet from Nashville to Washington, D.C., as he prepares to badger Congress with a fire-and-brimstone sermon about fossil fuels ushering in a planetary catastrophe. Here is Al Gore flying a private jet again to a public speaking appearance in San Francisco. If greenhouse gas emissions are such a problem, why didn’t Al save emissions by flying commercial first class? We know it’s not for security concerns – the
          entire massage industry can testify that Al is the security issue to be feared rather than protected.

          Scene Three: Here is Al Gore landing at Reagan National Airport. The Metro light rail system can take Al in a nearly emissions-free trip straight from the airport to the U.S. Capitol Building. But Al makes nary a move in the direction of the Metro stop. Shame on you, Al, you must be heading for a taxi cab. But wait, he’s walking away from the taxi stand, also. Will Al lead by perfect example and walk or bike to the Capitol Building? Ugh, there he goes, getting into a limousine, making the wasteful emissions of a private taxi cab seem absolutely eco-friendly in comparison to his limo.

          Scene Four: Al is pestering us again about how we have to tighten our belts or else the global sea level will rise dramatically and turn our coastal cities into Waterworld. Manhattan will soon be underwater and unrecognizable, Al promises. At the same time, the energy-guzzling Tennessee mansion is apparently not good enough for Al. There is Al buying yet another energy-guzzling multi-million dollar mansion, this time overlooking the Pacific Ocean along the Santa Barbara coast. What happened to all that sea level rise, Al?

          Scene Five: Now we have the richly childed Al Gore telling us that the way to reduce global warming pollution is to reduce family size. “One of the things we could do … to put out less of this pollution [is to] to stabilize the population,” said Al last week in a New York speech. “You have to have ubiquitous availability of fertility management so women can choose how many children to have, the spacing of children.”

          Stop it, Al. You’re killing me.”

          • John Moore

            Your post wasn’t long enough.

          • Zorba

            Thanks for the feedback. I guess I’m used to how the comments section here normally functions, when I really enjoy the debates, not the current level of one-line zingers and gems like “You’re a deuche” from deranged Gore groupies. I’ll try to adjust my behaviour accordingly.

          • Xander66

            Did you know that Gore’s Tennessee mansion and other homes are powered mostly by solar panels and the remainder is purchased from renewable sources. In less than 15 years most jet fuel will be produced by renewables and I’m guessing Al Gore will use this “renewable” fuel. Your comments are based on denier site evaluations of Gore, so fuck off…….

          • Zorba

            Thanks for the last part, another mature post for me to appreciate. Well done. I am very, very far from being a denier, your saying that in 15 years jet fuel will be produced by renewables so it’s ok to fly now sounds more like denialism to me. Nice logic.

            It seems people are unable to separate their justified anger over Gore’s presidential election with his current role as an “environmental campaigner” with a ridiculously profligate lifestyle. So any criticism must be from a “lying republican” or “denier”. This is a man who gave a speech about how we should use videoconferencing instead of traveling to save the planet, yet doesn’t appear to take his own advice – surely nothing to do with being paid 100k to speak in person. But criticising him is not allowed, because he’s Saint Al.

            I expected more from this community, to be honest. I know it’s got political recently with Zach’s recent posts (apart from Bernie I think they’re all as bad as each other) but apart from Vensonata’s well argued responses here I’m just seeing a lot of childish name-calling. Someone expressed an unpopular opinion – deal with it.

      • Steve_R

        Gore never said he invented the internet. He was indeed heavily involved with getting funding for the internet — he was precient in seeing the value of the internet. By repeating that argument you are revealing that either you are a member of the lying right-wing in America, or else you are just very very stupid. You also seem quite stupid in calling Gore a hypocrite for flying in jets — he has great and valuable influence to wake up the world to climate change. He could not get where he needs to go to spread his influence if relied on walking, or even driving. I don’t think you are sincere, but if you are, I feel sorry for you.

        • Zorba

          Thanks for the personal insults, always a sign of a good argument. I am in no way right wing but I would think the first thing someone seeking to raise awareness of environmental affairs would do is get rid of their private jet. It is still possible to fly (when necessary) without using a private jet (one of the most wasteful and polluting modes of travel imaginable), is that simple enough for you?

          PS: The internet thing was a joke, anyone not recognising that I meant it that way must be very, very… nah, I won’t sink to your level.

          • Tim

            Hey you super asshole. He doesn’t own a private jet. He charters one sometimes but mostly flies commercial. You’re just a lying right wing nut. Liar, liar, pants on fire type of guy. He has solar panels and hybrid cars. Yeah he’s rich, but he’s trying to save the world. Now, get out of his way.

            You’re nothing but a denier accessory.

    • Riely Rumfort

      Gore should have stopped after ‘The Inconvient Truth’ made it’s round.
      In his traveling crusade he’s polluted quite a bit.
      Skype should be the Eco-Warriors weapon, their presence in person isn’t so powerful as the statistics they make other aware of.
      Dicaprio and Gore have as much a footprint as hundreds of Diesel monster trucks..
      They may excuse this by impacting inverse operations but the same should be achievable remotely.

      • vensonata

        Well, I have some sympathy for the argument of using Skype. I myself am using it these days to talk to groups half way around the world for the very reason that it is a waste of time and energy to travel unnecessarily. But in the case of somebody of Al Gore’s profile it is worth it to appear sometimes in person. The carbon footprint may be infinitesimal compared to the persuasive results which may truly affect the issue on a larger scale. This issue, of course, has been thoroughly discussed and reflected on by environmentalists for decades now.

        • Zorba

          It’s possible to fly without a private jet.

          • vensonata

            We need to appreciate Al Gore for what he has done. He never claimed to be Gandhi. He is not going to travel third class rail, like Gandhi. Gandhi, if you remember, was assassinated by right wing zealots after walking around unprotected in the crowds. It is what religious types do.

          • Xander66

            Most of the time he uses commercial flights. Why don’t you know this?

        • Riely Rumfort

          Still, not one needs to touch him, or any official for that matter. The same goes for businessmen.
          Green is using <3kWh to convey your point. All these flights and all the gatherings put a lot in the air.
          Let's say Gore and another 100 speakers fly to a convention. Another 1-5,000 also mainly flew there. That stuff adds up.
          The conventions gathering of physical bodys may pollute as much as a small city does in a years time.
          We have the internet, it's a wonder, a video capable singularity, anyone green should take advantage of it's utility. There are too many excusing themselves, it's the same rational as 'I'm just one person my footprint doesn't matter', which they battle.

          • Roger Lambert

            Oh, yes – practice what you preach!

            (Because only Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio fail the 100% non hypocrisy lifestyle test, which means their contributions to ending fossil fuel use deserves to be disparaged, discounted, and disregarded.)

            Riely – you’re priceless!
            .

          • Riely Rumfort

            I also mentioned all eco-promoters, politicians and businessmen.
            Sorry if I make to much sense.

          • Xander66

            You say: “Sorry if I make too much sense”. If you made ANY sense at all, you wouldn’t have to apologize.

            To deliver impact in a speech, a high profile speaker needs to be present. You clearly have little experience in matters like this.

          • Riely Rumfort

            LoL, I’m a great public speaker actually. But hey you don’t know me so you’re misjudging is forgiven.

          • Tim

            Extra, extra, read all about it! Some people had a Skype sessions! Front page just below the fold you can read about how they dialed in to a conference call too!

            I realize that flying is bad and people getting together takes energy, but this is a race of impact and influence. Let he without frequent flyer miles cast the first modem.

          • Riely Rumfort

            So if it isn’t a public gathering it’s of little importance?
            This isn’t Ancient Rome Sir Coliseum. Lose that mindset.

          • Tim

            Go fuck yourself, asshole!

          • Riely Rumfort

            Well thought out response.
            Thank you for the gut laugh, needed that.
            Also, I don’t believe an asshole can fuck itself..

        • Ross

          Also Al Gore has said that he flies commercial most of the time. He doesn’t own a jet and only occasionally charters.

      • Roger Lambert

        Al Gore should have stopped flying, should he? How about everybody else? What percentage of total air passenger miles does he represent? How about you, Riely – are you less or more morally culpable than Al Gore to use airlines?

        • Riely Rumfort

          I drive unless a lack of time forces flight, I’ve driven 35 hours in 2 days by myself to not fly. So yes.

          • John Moore

            If you have ever driven 35 hours in 2 days, by yourself, then whatever else you are, you are a dunce. Why would you ever admit that you have done something that stupid?

          • Riely Rumfort

            How does that show a lack of intellect?
            Astronauts make long trips?
            Six hours sleep one night seven the next.

          • John Moore

            If you think that it is prudent to drive alone for 35 out of 48 hours, and then, when someone points out that this is real, real stupid, and your answer is what you just typed above, well, I don’t know. I guess we just don’t have anything to talk about.

          • Ivor O’Connor

            When you put it like that it seems dangerous. However if he started early on a Saturday morning, slept 5 hours Saturday night, then repeated it does not seem like much at all.

          • Xander66

            Driving for 17 hours followed by 6 hours of sleep and then 18 hours of driving (if that is what you are suggesting) makes you a hazard on the highway and you should be ashamed. Don’t do it again. Don’t try to compare yourself to an highly trained astronaut who, by the way, is not dealing with oncoming traffic, and unexpected, irrational vehicle movements by drunk, tired, distracted or inexperienced drivers or snow storms, black ice or heavy downpores. After 8 hours of driving, it’s time to reast for the day for safety reasons which is why professional truck drivers are held to this limit. You are a dangerous driver not a hero or “the antonym of a Dunce”…..you’re the definition of a fool.

          • Riely Rumfort

            I run on 5 hrs of sleep most days if I was indeed tired I’d hit a rest stop. Music and standup comedy kept me alert, I also slept like 10 hours the day before leaving. I’m a very astute driver, never caused an accident, prevented dozens.

          • Karl the brewer

            You must be Tim Montgomery or Ben Johnson…. http://condellpark.com/kd/reactiontime.htm

          • Riely Rumfort

            I ran state in hurdles, but no. 🙂

          • Karl the brewer

            Ed Moses! I claim the prize 🙂

          • Riely Rumfort
          • Really, did you get my tweet?

          • Karl the brewer

            Is that LeVeon Bell?

          • That is Le’Veon Bell. He is not Le’Veon Bell. Ole Riely has to make stuff up for self-worth.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Nothing was made up.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Yes, I just found it a comical hurdling.

          • Whatever, you were called out on your lying. Failing to realize people might recognize who was in that photo. Besides Le’Veon Bell ran sprints and high jump, not hurdles.

          • Riely Rumfort

            I didn’t claim to be him, as I said it’s just a comical photo of a man hurdling something.
            Buzz off troll.

          • Karl the brewer

            Check out Ed Moses here. ~2m00s is spectacular.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUdhjQRSt9s

          • Riely Rumfort

            That man dances it.

          • ” I for 3 months held the world record for reaction time, so that puts me at an advantage.”

            WTF, you are an embarrassing troll.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Says the man of the cross. Ha.

          • I’m an anti-theist, thank you.

            Deflection is a non-answer, troll.

          • Riely Rumfort

            How as I suppose to answer that? Who’s the troll here?

          • You are the troll. An astute observer would have assessed my ironic profile description.

            Why deflect instead of answer? What sense is this record,
            visual stimulus, audio stimulus, or touch stimulus? Where is it recorded?

          • Riely Rumfort

            Forgive me for not checking your profile description?
            Since you actually asked this time, Visual Stimulus. I averaged .83 seconds in a series of 5 tests at the time. I’ve also caught fists in fights, done transporter/bond moves to avoid accidents, and land like a cat if I slip to fall.
            You can attempt one which only goes as low at .1 seconds here.
            http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime

          • You had to have taken a lot of fists to the face.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Nope, deflected. I took one to the temple once pretty good, but he was bleeding before that.

          • Xander66

            So, you have: “driven 35 hours in 2 days by myself to not fly”.

            Your hourly rate is clearly not as valuable as Al Gore or you could not afford to waste those 35 hours in unproductive travel time.

          • Riely Rumfort

            LoL hour Value, oh capitalist, how lost you are.

          • globi

            Don’t they have trains or buses where you live?

          • Riely Rumfort

            LoL, 2010 Prius presently.

          • Ivor O’Connor

            That’s a really cool solar vehicle! Make it a little more robust and it could probably become a third world sensation.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Enjoying the hater parade today Ivor? This mob, Christ..

          • Ivor O’Connor

            I enjoy some good old fashioned hate parades. Gets the blood flowing. So I don’t mind. Kind of fun sometimes.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Over something so trivial as me not caring for his mode of spreading his message..
            Personal attacks, trolling, badgering, I’m about 1 comment from abandoning this post even though my logic is sound.
            I feel like I’m speaking to republicans, or arguing with children whom think discussion is about winning not truth.

          • Ivor O’Connor

            Yes, there’s practically no difference between a republican and democrat. Keep that in mind and you’ll understand much of the behavior seen here today.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Or modern adults and children for that matter.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Nevermind earlier, now it’s getting fun.

          • globi

            That’s from 30 years ago. A Swiss solar activist wanted to show that solar energy doesn’t just work in the desert and organized the ‘Tour de Sol’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_Sol

            Having an EV and a parking roof with PV is more sensible in my opinion though.

            https://www.migrosmagazin.ch/_storage/asset/6075544/storage/mymi:image-zoom_1/file/33699264/15332939.jpg

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOoJG9Vz4mc

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlss1X1ZmCE

            http://www.srf.ch/play/tv/srf-wissen/video/solarmobil-wm-tour-de-sol?id=42c7a8be-f969-48b6-9715-8f078c884a6f

          • Ivor O’Connor

            Yes, for us, I totally agree. Third world countries though don’t have luxuries. Self contained vehicle that can be worked on with a pair of wire cutters and bailing wire only driven when the sun shines might be perfect.

          • globi

            Even in that case I’d argue, that it would be more sensible to have an electric bicycle and some PV on the hut.

          • Roger Lambert

            But then , to complete the other part of the moral equation, you would still have had to said something useful to humanity after your 35 hour drive. Which would mean something a hell of a lot more useful to the world than “Al Gore is a hypocrite and should not be listened to because he uses airports”.

            Al Gore: 1,000,000
            Riely: 0

          • Riely Rumfort

            Don’t put words in my mouth old man.
            Especially in a comment not directed towards me, which I usually wouldn’t see.
            That action lacks character.

      • Matthew Rose

        “Dicaprio and Gore have as much a footprint as hundreds of Diesel monster trucks..”

        100 x 0 = 0

        I think DiCaprio & Gore’s fossil fuel footprint is higher zero. Perhaps the fact monster trucks use a little gasoline to start the engine, then run on racing alcohol undermines your rant.

        • Riely Rumfort

          22.38 pounds of CO2 are produced by burning a gallon of Diesel fuel.

          • Matthew Rose

            Yeah, so what? Again, monster trucks don’t burn diesel fuel.

            Therefore, 100 (monster trucks) x 0 gallons (of diesel monster trucks burn) x 22.38 pounds (of CO2 are produced by burning a gallon of Diesel fuel.) = 0

            The math is very easy.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Diesel monster trucks use Diesel.
            Maybe I should have just made it simple and said 20 Tanks, or 500 SUVs.

          • Riely Rumfort

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/832c8acc59abcefa25070012ed9bea52fd675faa4e4fd8b483b52db1d4925669.jpg
            Diesel monster trucks use Diesel.

            Maybe I should have just made it simple and said 20 Tanks, or 500 SUVs.

          • Matthew Rose

            “XDP Diesel is a Ford monster truck driven by Dave Radzierez. The truck is famous for being the only competing diesel monster truck and in 2014 became the first diesel monster truck to complete a full backflip. The truck runs a Hemi Cummins engine with a single smoke stack as the exhaust.”

            CT, won’t allow me to post this link

          • Riely Rumfort

            Regardless of rarity, the truck I mentioned exists, hell it has even done a backflip.

          • Matthew Rose

            An exception/aberration does not make a valid argument. That truck is a gimmick.

            Do you want to know why monster trucks do not use diesel?

            Purity, you never know what you are going to get. In the competitive world of motor sports performance is everything. To get that performance you want remove all variables possible. Diesel fuel is in no way refined to the degree of racing alcohol. Diesel fuel burns much hotter and is less safe for competitors, therefore it is not used.

            Monster Trucks run on Alcohol!

          • Riely Rumfort

            Blah blah, you lost, even trying to be Mr. Technicality.

          • Matthew Rose

            Hushpower Diesel was a Dodge Ram truck owned by Dave Radzierez. The
            truck was the only diesel truck, and was Dave’s first competition piece
            from 2007-2010.

            For the record. Dave Radzierez is now driving Wrecking Crew (racing alcohol). There are no longer diesel monster trucks in the profession circuit.

          • Riely Rumfort

            Did I say it was in the professional circuit? LoL
            Dude just give up.
            Monster Truck Defintion;
            An extremely large pickup truck, typically with greatly oversized tires.
            Racing it is just what people do with them, application does not change what it is.
            Last comment to you, your lost troll give up.

          • Matthew Rose

            It’s fun that:
            – you used the Google definition, but alter the second sentence, turning it into an argument to advance your supposition;
            – you resort to name calling, when confronted with supported facts, from someone who demonstrated being far more familiar with the subject at hand;
            – when you came here deliberately to make a fallacious argument to use Al Gore’s business travel disingenuously to discredit the message;

          • Riely Rumfort

            Dude plenty of Mudders have monster trucksz get over yourself.

      • Xander66

        You’re partly right. The impact your speeches would have are definitely not campanile to the impact a Gore speech will have, so Gore gets a pass because of the value his presence will have, so (like I said before), fuck off……

        • Riely Rumfort

          You sound bright as a lump of coal.
          Shoo~

    • Frank

      It’s time republicans change their minds about renewables. “could very well be the biggest business opportunity in the world right now.” Renewables prices have dropped A TON since Gore did his thing. It’s good for business.

      • John Moore

        Republicans will change their minds about renewables when the Koch brothers tell them to.

  • Zorba

    “brings together a collection of the world’s most compelling, surprising, and original thinkers” – so what was Al Gore doing there?

    (At this point, I think Al Gore does more harm than good to this debate. Did he travel there by private jet again?)

    • Tim

      Is this zorba the Not great? You’re a deuche

      • Zorba

        Thanks for the considered response. You’ve convinced me with your eloquent argument, Al Gore is the perfect person to lecture others on consuming less resources. I was wrong.

        • Riely Rumfort

          There will always be those who idol worship false Gods, nevermind the lot.
          Gore and Dicaprio are huge hypocrites, most just aren’t statistical enough to see it.
          They take opposition to them as being on the side irrational actions, which are obviously not one in the same.
          If you fly a jet you pollute as much as 20,000 cars traveling the same distance. Gore and the Eco-promoters would be best served Using Skype, or electronic means of communication but they feel they’re exceptions.
          They think they do more good than their damages while a wise man looks to have a negative footprint.
          Spokesman of their type may steer some drones to the correct solution, but policy should be doing that, not promoters.

          • Roger Lambert

            Gosh, how come I don’t think you have earned the standing to pronounce Al Gore or anyone else a “hypocrite” on the green energy issue?

          • Riely Rumfort

            Your perspective is null.

        • Robert Pollock

          The “Donald” might show the world what a real consumer looks like. No houses under 10,000 sq. ft, I think he has four of those counting the Park Ave. apt. The “Boat”, the “Jet”, the “Helicopter”. I didn’t see any solar stuff on the pictures of his houses. He should review his electric bill…..

      • Riely Rumfort

        Rude, pompous..

    • Tim

      What has your contribution to humanity been? If that jerk off Scalia had only died 16 years ago, Gore would have rightfully been President and the human race wouldn’t be so f&*((ed right now. That’s the truth Zorbone. but I imagine you’re an idiot

      • Jason Willhite

        I’m confused. On what basis do you rationalize desacralizing other’s humanity while still wanting to retain your own?

        • Tim

          I’ve had it with people denigrating Gore. If you knee jerk think he’s a dork, well, you’re the poor thinker. I think we all know that Bush and his cronies of entrenched money stole that election. They proceeded to trash the world like the disgusting pigs that Republican’s are. Do I have rage? You bet I do! Now fuck off, you putz. Gore would have been a GREAT president. Anyone who says otherwise, I think is a moron

          • Jason Willhite

            I think Gore would have been a great president too. Where did I say he wouldn’t? My comment was a response to you wanting Scalia dead sooner.
            You never answered my original question, have you?

          • Tim

            Your original question: Zorba shits on Gore, Zorba deserves shit back, duh? If you realize the gravity of the situation, you might understand where I’m coming from. I’ve given my explanation. The anger I feel over the coopting of our government by felons and subsequent trading the future of humanity for a couple of shekels is unbounded. History may well judge it to be the single worst thing to happen to my child. But what do I know, I’m only using math and you’re using far superior political correctness.

          • Jason Willhite

            I never brought up Gore. You did. I never said Zorba was right; you assumed that.
            I have an issue with the fact that when you vent your fristration in these comments, you suggest soemtimes that people die that don’t share your point of view.
            On what basis do you descralize the humanity of others while trying to retain the sanctity of your own life?
            If your viewpoint holds any dignity, you wouldn’t express it in the undignified way that you do…

          • Tim

            Call sometimes the lives of the few must be sacrificed for the many. Obstructionists would have their ideas promulgated to a tipping point where the human race is wiped out. So if these people are removed from the gene pool, the rest of the people get to live. The idea here is some die vs. all die. And I didn’t say it was my idea, I said it was mathematically correct.

        • Robert Pollock

          “desacralizing ” — I had to look it up, but it means what it looks like. Most religions try to convert others, some don’t bother. The one’s that do, (God on our side) “desacralize” as you say.

          • Jason Willhite

            “Desacralize” isn’t a religious term. It looks like you’re ascribed that meaning to it. It just means to violate what is considered sacred.
            Robert, I know that you probably keep your money in a safe or in a bank; you have locks on the doors of your house; you keep your personal information safe from identity thieves. But this is why – you consider those things (whether it’s your possessions, your family, your money, your identity) as sacred. The reason you protect those things is because, as being sacred, they’re valuable to you.
            I assume Tim (the OP) considers humanity and the environment important, because he wants to protect them. But his comments concerning that certain people should be killed off to either protect the environment, and therefore preserve the lives of others doesn’t make sense.
            If the environment is sacred to him, and human beings as well, then at what point does he desacralize life to preserve humanity and his own, which he thinks is sacred? Or if human life can be desacralized why should it matter that any lives be spared, what would make human life at that point sacred and worth saving?…

      • Shane 2

        ” If that jerk off Scalia had only died 16 years ago, Gore would have rightfully been President ”
        If a quarter of those who voted for the Green Party candidate in Florida 16 years ago had voted for Gore, Gore would have been President rather than GW Bush. Scalia would not have come into the equation.

        • Tim

          I know! Isn’t it awful. Still, GW and Jeb conspired to steal an election and ruin the world. The Greens just teed it up for them.

        • Harry Johnson

          Eventually it became evident that Gore did win Florida and the popular vote. The Supreme Court Coup of 2000 started the world of hurt we continue to pay for. Apparently many people now claim if Sanders isn’t nominated, they won’t vote for Clinton effectively guaranteeing a President Trump. It will only get much worse.

        • Ivor O’Connor

          I wonder if you feel the existing car manufacturers would be doing BEVs if only that upstart Tesla didn’t capture the market?

      • Robert Pollock

        That’s the same picture I’m seeing along with meetings in Gerald Ford’s office 35 years ago with Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Cheney, H.W. Bush (being appointed CIA director), the tail end of the Nixon administration. Probably the gang that did in the Kennedy’s too.

        • Tim

          A nest of vipers? Interesting comment. And Ivor, I think you’re right on that point too. We’d still be 5 years ago where battery tech is concerned

  • t1oracle

    So yes, yes, no?

    • Riely Rumfort

      Pretty much, or not quick enough at least to the last question.

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