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Published on November 20th, 2013 | by Important Media Cross-Post

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Honda Fuel Cell EV Concept Might Go Into Production In 2015

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November 20th, 2013 by
 

Originally published on Gas2.
By Christopher DeMorro.

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Later this month the Los Angeles Convention Center will be flooded with the latest and greatest cars from across the world. The Honda FCEV concept will be among the new rides on display in L.A. at the end of November, and Honda says it is a peek at a production hydrogen fuel cell vehicle due out sometime in 2015.

Other than the above sketch, that it will debut at the L.A. Auto Show,  and it has some kind of relation to Honda’s current hydrogen fuel cell project (the Honda FCX Clarity), there isn’t a whole lot to talk about. Honda, like several other automakers, has promised to deliver a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle sometime around 2015.

Judging solely from the concept sketch, I can’t help but notice the similarity to the Volkswagen XL1, with what looks to be an aerodynamic two-door body style. Are Honda’s hydrogen fuel cell vehicles really ready for primetime? The clock is counting down, and 2015 is sooner than you might think.

Source: Honda

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  • Marion Meads

    Fuel Cells are excellent for producing electricity and heat, especially if it can use biogas. It can make use of urban and agricultural waste, sewage, landfill gasses and have higher efficiency and far lesser emissions than diesel generators.

    Fuel cells fed with hydrogen installed on a car is inappropriate application of excellent clean technology.

  • Jouni Valkonen

    “Fuel Cells are bullshit.” —Elon Musk & Carlos Ghosn

  • Others

    This model will not go to Production. Even if they sell, they will sell few units / month at a very high price and claim that people are not interested.

    Its better to stick with plugins & ev’s for now.

  • Marion Meads

    According to Bloomberg and Newsday, consumers crave Diesel Cars and Fuel Cell powered cars, while Plug-ins are losing favor.

    (Sarcasm mode on)
    Maybe this is a start of Fuel Cell blitzkrieg postings? Is this why Honda’s FCEV is showcased in CleanTechnica?
    (Sarcasm mode off)

    http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/cars/obama-electric-car-goal-veers-out-of-reach-as-buyers-favor-diesel-hydrogen-1.6422868
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-11/diesels-to-fuel-cells-join-spotlight-dimming-on-plug-ins-cars.html

    • Bob_Wallace

      One needs to ask themselves how much consumers know about H2 FCEV vehicles.

      Do they, for example, know that it will cost 3x to 4x more per mile to operate a FCEV than a BEV?

      Remember how much in love Republicans were with each of their sequential and many potential presidential candidate back in 2012 until they got to know them?

  • Marion Meads

    Which is cheaper to construct, a hydrogen refueling station or an electric supercharging station?

    • Bob_Wallace

      Don’t know. But if someone does post the numbers don’t forget to include operating costs.

      It takes about 2.5x as much electricity to fuel a H2 FCEV as a BEV.

      • Marion Meads

        precisely! Bloomberg and Newsday would very much want to shove H2 FCEV into our faces, I wonder why? It is way easier for the oil tycoons to strip out the H2 from the fracked coals or from natural gas so that people can continue to work their asses off to pay for them.

      • Jouni Valkonen

        Fuel cell advocates typically think that hydrogen is made from cheap natural gas or water is splitted in high temperature nuclear reactors as a by product. Even fuel cell advocates think that it is foolish to produce hydrogen using electrolysis.

        • Bob_Wallace

          If we were to run H2 FCEVs with methane -> H2 we’d still be screwing our environment. Might as well use methane in the fuel cells and avoid the energy loss going the H2 route.

          People who dream of H2 from nuclear reactors have, I suspect, no idea how expensive nuclear reactors are. And how many it would take to replace our current petroleum use.

    • Ronald Brakels

      An electric charger is definitely cheaper. That’s the case whether the hydrogen is simply stored on site or made there. A charger is a much simpler proposition.

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