Comments on: Leading Scientists Promote Need For Nuclear To Slow Global Warming

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:43:00 +0000

Please describe how a 100% nuclear grid would operate.

Let’s say you’ve got a 100 GW average load with a 3:1 peak:off-peak variation.

By: mzso

mzso — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:06:00 +0000

There’s nothing dishonest about that.

If you need fossil fuel plants to support renewables, it’s worse for the environment than going nukes. The whole renewable energy thing is about the environment.

You said: “We have no need of nuclear.”
So you promote pollutant emissions instead of having some nukes around.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:58:00 +0000

I am talking about your statement “there’s a lot of sunshine, but they wont be a full alternative”.

By: A Real Libertarian

A Real Libertarian — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:40:00 +0000

“Huh? Nuclear advocates suggest 100% nuclear.”

Nuclear advocates suggest 100% solar as a strawman they can attack.

By: mzso

mzso — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:35:00 +0000

“FUD.”
Really?! Which part? It was an observation. The kind of comments her are FUD, like the “ecosystem will collapse in 20 years”, etc…

“No one suggests a 100% solar grid except pro coal/nuclear advocates.”
Huh? Nuclear advocates suggest 100% nuclear.

“You make a dishonest argument.”
Again. WHT are you talking about?

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:48:00 +0000

“there’s a lot of sunshine, but they wont be a full alternative”

FUD.

No one suggests a 100% solar grid except pro coal/nuclear advocates.

You make a dishonest argument.

By: mzso

mzso — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:13:00 +0000

For example on nextbigfuture everyone says and references stuff that nuclear and fossil fuel power plants are much cheaper. And about solar companies going bankrupt in masses.
Anyway the wikipedia links crearly show solar and wind’s disadvantage. Especially solar. Maybe it closed the gap where there’s a lot of sunshine, but they wont be a full alternative until cheap and durable batteries are developed. Which is like 5-10 years.

Meanwhile nuclear also can become better, with never reactor designs and Chinese mass production.

By: mzso

mzso — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:02:00 +0000

Nope.
But I’m starting to think we will only really know what’s the case after all of it has happened. All people in the energy sector just lie their asses of and/or delude themselves.

By: A Real Libertarian

A Real Libertarian — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:13:00 +0000

Does “actual proof” mean “proof that agrees with my preconceived notion”?

By: mzso

mzso — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:09:00 +0000

More like lack of actual proof.

By: A Real Libertarian

A Real Libertarian — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:42:00 +0000

If the only the only evidence against it is “I don’t wanna believe it wahhh!” then yes.

By: mzso

mzso — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:23:00 +0000

So I should believe a politician validating his own decision. Or a group protecting it’s own interests.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:49:00 +0000

Tell you what mzso, you find some data that proves those sources incorrect.
You’re turning into a troll.

By: mzso

mzso — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 12:25:00 +0000

Though none of these sources are reliable. Both wildly biased.

By: Wayne Williamson

Wayne Williamson — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:10:00 +0000

test

By: Wayne Williamson

Wayne Williamson — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 22:15:00 +0000

Watched the CNN “special” last night and it was just the same old crap…

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:35:00 +0000

Let’s try this…

Solar on the grid reduced the wholesale price of electricity by €6.145 billion in 2012.

http://qualenergia.it/sites/default/files/articolo-doc/RA-January-2013_Germany-Wholesale-Power-Report-3.pdf

Germany is saving EUR 8 billion a year in fossil fuel import costs right now.

http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/17/germany-1-trillion-projected-fossil-fuel-import-savings-from-energiewende/#SeSqsbWCrdY4Pvbe.99

By: A Real Libertarian

A Real Libertarian — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:25:00 +0000

The link is broken.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 17:56:00 +0000

Solar reduced the wholesale price of electricity in Germany by about 5 billion euros in 2012.
Solar and wind combined reduced fossil fuel purchases by 8 billion euros.
http://qualenergia.it/sites/de…

Wind has decreased the cost of electricity on the ERCOT grid.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 17:53:00 +0000

I suppose your alluding to load-following designs.

I suppose you also haven’t realized that load-following makes nuclear even more expensive.

Nuclear reactors have very high “mortgages” – capex and finex loans. Annual payments / Total MWh produced = cost of electricity. Lower Total MWh and cost per MWh increases.