How much would H2 cost were it generated with the leaves we have today?

Go ahead, keep your mind in a box, Keep being a nay-sayer. I’m sure your kind of attitude helped Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla move forward with their advancements as well.

Typically an internal combustion engine vehicle might convert ~20% of the energy in its fuel to kinetic energy.

Here’s Rob’s daily driving graph.

While looking for the graph source I just found this page which looks pretty interesting. I saw/copied the graph from another source. This page looks to be written by the person who made the graph. More info on the page that I haven’t gone through yet.

http://www.solarjourneyusa.com/EVdistanceAnalysis7.php

The other problem is the very costly infrastructure we’d have to build to provide hydrogen to every car on the road. We’d have to replace every gas station, fuel pump, refinery and all the distribution system. Zillion bucks.

I will start getting excited about hydrogen fuel when someone explains where we are going to get the hydrogen.

That Musk knows this shows that he, as usual, has done his homework.

http://www.dailytech.com/Study+LithiumIon+Batteries+Can+Impact+Environment+Health+Negatively/article31678.htm

http://phys.org/news/2013-05-emphasis-recycling-reuse-li-ion-batteries.html

http://green.autoblog.com/2013/06/02/epa-looks-into-negative-environmental-health-effects-of-li-ion/

And the links go on and on. You can see for yourself that Musk has a vested interest in Li-ion batteries, hence his strong words about fuel cells. And I’m not saying that fuel cells are the answer either. They have their own exotic problems.

My solution? First of all, get rid of the elitist, insane TESLA car (he totally exploited Nikola Tesla’s name) And equip the family unit with a decentralized SOLAR HYDROGEN vehicle. The hydrogen is produced on-site with a simple PEM electrolyzer.

Easily swappable tanks pressurized to 200 psi feed a burner on an externally-heated Stirling cycle engine. The byproduct from this is heat in the car for the winter time, and pure drinking water from the exhaust.

No intense magnetic fields createc or toxic batteries needed.

Imagine this external heated Stirling engine powered by solar hydrogen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7lUzKfdHd4http://

A much more sane approach to getting around is to slow down. Most people just use their vehicles for in town driving anyway.

A SLOW LANE is necessary to make this work. But this concept is for the masses. Parking lanes would have to turn into slow lanes to make this happen in many places.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S036031990500145Xhttp://

Here is a DIY electrolyzer being built link instead of an exotic fuel cell.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ANNDlfDg28

And, only a few thousand dollars ought to build a nice http://sunnev.com/ vehicle that could demonstrate how a simple 1hp Stirling engine
could be used instead of their electric motor.

Why? So that stored
hydrogen gas could be used in a basic burner system. No exotic fuel
cell gadgetry or toxic battery necessary .

It may not be as efficient
as a fuel cell, though it is more readily accessible for the masses to
make and utilize. Though, as I mentioned earlier, the ‘Slow Lane’ has to
be in place for this to work.

Powered by solar panels at the homestead, the recent invention of a PEM electrolyzer system eliminates the need for any
caustic KOH electrolyte (i.e. splash-it-in-your-eyes-go-blind) that is
traditionally used with water-splitting electrolysis process!

With that Sunnev-designed vehicle, I would use 16″ motor scooter aluminum MAG wheels. Because a 20″ BMX 130 psi bicycle tire will fit onto them. This way, the rolling resistance goes down to virtually nil. `

The major energy suck in a vehicle comes from the amount of surface area that the tires contact the road X 4 TIRES. This resistance is what has to be overcome before the vehicle even starts to roll.

Please, do share with me your thoughts. darin_selby@hotmail.com

Darin

And its true that hydrogen is both volatile and corrosive. A spark from sliding across your seat could set it off. It can’t be piped through standard pipelines because it will corrode the pipes.

1. It’s not in the economic interest of more than a select group of people.
2.
Free supercharger. A net loss in order to attract customers to his
product with the perk of not having to pay for the charge. If anything
he would want people to use his superchargers less so he can build a
more extensive infrastructure to promote the driving of EVs of all
kinds. He does not gain anything when people charge their car there, he
gains customers from the infrastructure being in place to charge your
car quickly. People will certainly buy the best car on the market. How
they charge it is up to them.
3. If a person isn’t going to be riding the HSR, it doesn’t mean that they would be driving a Tesla.