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	<title>Comments on: Nissan Tests 48 kWh Battery In Leaf</title>
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		<title>By: CL</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-233190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. I was going to buy one yesterday. The dealer let me take it home to show my wife. When she saw it she promised to divorce me if I traded my Audi A5 for it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I was going to buy one yesterday. The dealer let me take it home to show my wife. When she saw it she promised to divorce me if I traded my Audi A5 for it. </p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-232551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I&#039;d pay for a 4wd with enough range to get me to the grocery store and back (~150 miles).

We&#039;re both niche drivers....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;d pay for a 4wd with enough range to get me to the grocery store and back (~150 miles).</p>
<p>We&#8217;re both niche drivers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen X9</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-232451</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Citizen X9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The airport is 43.6 miles from my house, you do the math. If I had 48 kw or better I could do 70 on the freeway home instead of 45-50 on side roads cutting my route time in 1/2. 5-10 grand is a buy for me!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The airport is 43.6 miles from my house, you do the math. If I had 48 kw or better I could do 70 on the freeway home instead of 45-50 on side roads cutting my route time in 1/2. 5-10 grand is a buy for me!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen X9</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-232450</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Citizen X9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d Pay 5,000 tomorrow for one... anything to get to the 150-180 mark. I&#039;m dying on Airport Runs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d Pay 5,000 tomorrow for one&#8230; anything to get to the 150-180 mark. I&#8217;m dying on Airport Runs</p>
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		<title>By: John Ten</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-227995</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the same as you!  Really I did, thought it was the ugliest thing since...

Fate decided to take away my Infiniti V6 sedan in a double near fatal car accident and survived.  I thought of buying a Testla but I want the Model X (SUV due out in summer 2015) so I went for Nissan Leaf so that in 2018, I can buy the Model X (2nd refined revision).

My significant other always love Leaf&#039;s look since the beginning!  I thought she was crazy.  For some strange reason, the look of the Leaf get less uglier and NOW - I LOVE the look - in fact, if you make it look like a normal car, I would be PISSED.  I want people to know this is an ALL-ELECTRIC vehicle and I expect the look to reflect that because I am proud.

It&#039;s distinguished, unmistakable and CHP (highway patrol) officer on the freeway don&#039;t even bother to look for the HOV (carpool) sticker.  Drives likes a space ship dream, quality, ultra smooth glide-on-air, silent, powerful 208 ft-lb torque right off the bat, performs and corners likes a sports car with ECO mode off.

I will save $11,000 USD on gasoline every year, that more than pay for future battery upgrade, higher density, lighter polymer, etc. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the same as you!  Really I did, thought it was the ugliest thing since&#8230;</p>
<p>Fate decided to take away my Infiniti V6 sedan in a double near fatal car accident and survived.  I thought of buying a Testla but I want the Model X (SUV due out in summer 2015) so I went for Nissan Leaf so that in 2018, I can buy the Model X (2nd refined revision).</p>
<p>My significant other always love Leaf&#8217;s look since the beginning!  I thought she was crazy.  For some strange reason, the look of the Leaf get less uglier and NOW &#8211; I LOVE the look &#8211; in fact, if you make it look like a normal car, I would be PISSED.  I want people to know this is an ALL-ELECTRIC vehicle and I expect the look to reflect that because I am proud.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s distinguished, unmistakable and CHP (highway patrol) officer on the freeway don&#8217;t even bother to look for the HOV (carpool) sticker.  Drives likes a space ship dream, quality, ultra smooth glide-on-air, silent, powerful 208 ft-lb torque right off the bat, performs and corners likes a sports car with ECO mode off.</p>
<p>I will save $11,000 USD on gasoline every year, that more than pay for future battery upgrade, higher density, lighter polymer, etc. </p>
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		<title>By: Doug Young</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-215655</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect part of the problem with more battery is the additional weight. Apparently the standard Leaf battery weighs 280kg, consequently a double sized one would weigh around 560kg. Whilst it might well fit in the same place, it would lead to weight distribution issues. Hopefully some bright spark will figure how to make a big battery that weighs a lot less than whats available today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect part of the problem with more battery is the additional weight. Apparently the standard Leaf battery weighs 280kg, consequently a double sized one would weigh around 560kg. Whilst it might well fit in the same place, it would lead to weight distribution issues. Hopefully some bright spark will figure how to make a big battery that weighs a lot less than whats available today.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-197060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, I love the design of the Leaf. Beauty is...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I love the design of the Leaf. Beauty is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-197059</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooo, that sounds nice. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooo, that sounds nice. <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: LTarrell</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-196807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LTarrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s such a shame Nissan decided to make the Leaf so ugly, like a cross between a Potato and a Frog! If it was nicely styled I&#039;d take one in a heartbeat, but I just couldn&#039;t live with such ugliness :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s such a shame Nissan decided to make the Leaf so ugly, like a cross between a Potato and a Frog! If it was nicely styled I&#8217;d take one in a heartbeat, but I just couldn&#8217;t live with such ugliness <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Ivor O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-189083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivor O'Connor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to http://arstechnica.com/features/2013/10/review-tesla-model-s/3/

&quot;The 60 or 85 kWh lithium ion battery is encased in an armored enclosure divided into 16 internal compartments. Inside are about 7,000 Panasonic NCR18650 lithium ion batteries, each about the size and shape of a standard consumer AA battery. The batteries are wired in series in order to produce the more than 300 kW required to drive the 2.5-ton Model S forward at speed.&quot;

And when you dig down look at this: http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf/ACA4000/ACA4000PE4.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://arstechnica.com/features/2013/10/review-tesla-model-s/3/" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/features/2013/10/review-tesla-model-s/3/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The 60 or 85 kWh lithium ion battery is encased in an armored enclosure divided into 16 internal compartments. Inside are about 7,000 Panasonic NCR18650 lithium ion batteries, each about the size and shape of a standard consumer AA battery. The batteries are wired in series in order to produce the more than 300 kW required to drive the 2.5-ton Model S forward at speed.&#8221;</p>
<p>And when you dig down look at this: <a href="http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf/ACA4000/ACA4000PE4.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf/ACA4000/ACA4000PE4.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-189059</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sure wish I knew what car manufacturers probably know about near term EV battery technology.  These folks can sign a no disclosure agreement and then get to peer deep into what is working its way to the market.


They may, for example, know that there&#039;s &gt;400 Wh/kg battery that will cost &lt;$200/kWh almost ready to go.  If there&#039;s a beast like that about to emerge then it would make less sense to offer multiple battery options.  We could have 200+ mile range EVs at ICEV prices.


If a big jump in battery capacity is far away then selling 100 mile range EVs that can hold another pack or two makes a lot of sense to me.  People who really need 200/300 mile range could purchase it.


It&#039;s frustrating having to be only an observer....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure wish I knew what car manufacturers probably know about near term EV battery technology.  These folks can sign a no disclosure agreement and then get to peer deep into what is working its way to the market.</p>
<p>They may, for example, know that there&#8217;s &gt;400 Wh/kg battery that will cost &lt;$200/kWh almost ready to go.  If there&#039;s a beast like that about to emerge then it would make less sense to offer multiple battery options.  We could have 200+ mile range EVs at ICEV prices.</p>
<p>If a big jump in battery capacity is far away then selling 100 mile range EVs that can hold another pack or two makes a lot of sense to me.  People who really need 200/300 mile range could purchase it.</p>
<p>It&#039;s frustrating having to be only an observer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter Siegers</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-189056</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pieter Siegers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make the options available and see how it sells. The option of battery slots just like wih our computers would do fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make the options available and see how it sells. The option of battery slots just like wih our computers would do fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-188872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how long it will be before one of the EV manufactures releases a model with multiple battery size options?  Tesla does that now.  IIRC they started with three but found that people weren&#039;t buying the lowest sized pack.


GM appears to be testing a 400 Wh/kg battery.  That&#039;s about 2.8x more capacity per weight than the LEAF battery.  They could produce an EV that gave 100 and 200 mile range options with smaller (cheaper) batteries than are now used in EVs.


They could even design the car so that someone could buy the 100 mile version and add a second &quot;100 miles&quot; later if they wanted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how long it will be before one of the EV manufactures releases a model with multiple battery size options?  Tesla does that now.  IIRC they started with three but found that people weren&#8217;t buying the lowest sized pack.</p>
<p>GM appears to be testing a 400 Wh/kg battery.  That&#8217;s about 2.8x more capacity per weight than the LEAF battery.  They could produce an EV that gave 100 and 200 mile range options with smaller (cheaper) batteries than are now used in EVs.</p>
<p>They could even design the car so that someone could buy the 100 mile version and add a second &#8220;100 miles&#8221; later if they wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-188869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be willing to pay more. Especially considering how much I&#039;m saving by using electric and not gas. The amount I am spending to charge my current Leaf is tiny compared to what it costs to gas up an equivalently sized I.C.E. car.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be willing to pay more. Especially considering how much I&#8217;m saving by using electric and not gas. The amount I am spending to charge my current Leaf is tiny compared to what it costs to gas up an equivalently sized I.C.E. car.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Davidson</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-188804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Davidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would love to almost double the range of my Leaf. it would allow me to almost do away with the gas car. Simply make it an extra cost option. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to almost double the range of my Leaf. it would allow me to almost do away with the gas car. Simply make it an extra cost option. </p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-188740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrEnergyCzar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfect for the much delayed Infiniti LE EV....


MrEnergyCzar]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect for the much delayed Infiniti LE EV&#8230;.</p>
<p>MrEnergyCzar</p>
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		<title>By: NRG4All</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-188671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NRG4All]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The price objection goes away if they make it an option.  Tesla dropped the 40kWh battery version because it wasn&#039;t selling.  Range is worth something and it appears that some EV drivers are willing to pay for it.  It all depends on the normal driving habits/distances of the purchaser.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price objection goes away if they make it an option.  Tesla dropped the 40kWh battery version because it wasn&#8217;t selling.  Range is worth something and it appears that some EV drivers are willing to pay for it.  It all depends on the normal driving habits/distances of the purchaser.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-188331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You need to consider how few people live that sort of life.  It&#039;s a very small niche need.

With overall EV sales so low it probably wouldn&#039;t make sense for a car manufacturer to build a new model to capture that few sales.  Right now they need to concentrate on the portions of the market where they can sell the largest numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to consider how few people live that sort of life.  It&#8217;s a very small niche need.</p>
<p>With overall EV sales so low it probably wouldn&#8217;t make sense for a car manufacturer to build a new model to capture that few sales.  Right now they need to concentrate on the portions of the market where they can sell the largest numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Others</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-188308</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Others]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainly.  Some people may have 80 mile 1 way commute and 160 mile round trip commute would be willing to pay 10K more to buy that vehicle.  Please bring that to market.   But battery should not take trunk space and should be in the floor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly.  Some people may have 80 mile 1 way commute and 160 mile round trip commute would be willing to pay 10K more to buy that vehicle.  Please bring that to market.   But battery should not take trunk space and should be in the floor.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Williamson</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/24/nissan-tests-48-kwh-battery-leaf/#comment-188247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Williamson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great option, I wonder how much extra it would cost...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great option, I wonder how much extra it would cost&#8230;</p>
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