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	<title>Comments on: 1966: Back To The Future Of Fuel Cell And Electric Vehicles (CT Exclusive)</title>
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		<title>By: John Bailo</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/21/1966-back-future-fuel-cell-electric-vehicles/#comment-183208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Bailo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny but like the fuel cell, the first &quot;personal size&quot; computer was developed for the Gemini capsule, in 1966.

And we all know what a big failure personal computers are...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny but like the fuel cell, the first &#8220;personal size&#8221; computer was developed for the Gemini capsule, in 1966.</p>
<p>And we all know what a big failure personal computers are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Bailo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Bailo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if it&#039;s even worth arguing with these FUDsters.   When they are not linking to pictures of zeppelins they are busy finding ways to mock and suppress a working technology...one that is being deployed in several countries already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it&#8217;s even worth arguing with these FUDsters.   When they are not linking to pictures of zeppelins they are busy finding ways to mock and suppress a working technology&#8230;one that is being deployed in several countries already.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Thomas</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/21/1966-back-future-fuel-cell-electric-vehicles/#comment-183051</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to share an up and running project in Orange County, CA that is pairing municipal wastewater treatment plant with fuel cell technology to create 3 value streams of hydrogen, electricity and heat!  Impressive in my opinion!

&quot;New fuel cell sewage gas station in Orange County, CA may be world&#039;s first&quot;

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&amp;id=8310315

&quot;It is here today and it is deployable today,&quot; said Tom Mutchler of Air Products and Chemicals Inc., a sponsor and developer of the project.

Microsoft Backs Away From Grid

http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2012/11/20/microsoft-backs-away-slowly-from-the-grid/

Germans are in favour of fuel cell cars

http://www.platinum.matthey.com/news-and-events/news-articles/2013/march/21st/germans-are-in-favour-of-fuel-cell-cars]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to share an up and running project in Orange County, CA that is pairing municipal wastewater treatment plant with fuel cell technology to create 3 value streams of hydrogen, electricity and heat!  Impressive in my opinion!</p>
<p>&#8220;New fuel cell sewage gas station in Orange County, CA may be world&#8217;s first&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&#038;id=8310315" rel="nofollow">http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&#038;id=8310315</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It is here today and it is deployable today,&#8221; said Tom Mutchler of Air Products and Chemicals Inc., a sponsor and developer of the project.</p>
<p>Microsoft Backs Away From Grid</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2012/11/20/microsoft-backs-away-slowly-from-the-grid/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2012/11/20/microsoft-backs-away-slowly-from-the-grid/</a></p>
<p>Germans are in favour of fuel cell cars</p>
<p><a href="http://www.platinum.matthey.com/news-and-events/news-articles/2013/march/21st/germans-are-in-favour-of-fuel-cell-cars" rel="nofollow">http://www.platinum.matthey.com/news-and-events/news-articles/2013/march/21st/germans-are-in-favour-of-fuel-cell-cars</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/21/1966-back-future-fuel-cell-electric-vehicles/#comment-182986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2013 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silvio Marcacci waste time on 1966 fuel cell car.
Just like describing details how 1966 personal computer would look like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silvio Marcacci waste time on 1966 fuel cell car.<br />
Just like describing details how 1966 personal computer would look like.</p>
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		<title>By: agelbert</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/21/1966-back-future-fuel-cell-electric-vehicles/#comment-182822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[agelbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info. I&#039;ll bet there is a fascinating fossil fuel negative influence back story to all these technologies that &quot;didn&#039;t work&quot;. During exactly the same period NASA was using fuel cells on space vehicles. 

Can anybody dare to say that nuclear power plants were &lt;b&gt;&lt;I&gt;ever &lt;/I&gt;&lt;/b&gt; economically feasible? Of course not. They could have built a hydrogen economy back then.  That was simpler than fuel cells. The fossil fuel industry just didn&#039;t want it. 
There are a pair of ford fusion automobile engines (modified over ten years ago to run on hydrogen and then shelved) powering a drone right now that can run 30 hours non-stop and they were shooting for several days. Guess where the hydrogen comes from? A fuel cell!

http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/11/1/cb70bebb-e997-48b1-8193-3c9324c36afc.Full.jpg

Each of the two propulsion systems consist of modified Ford 2.3 liter engines, reduction gearbox, and 4-blade propeller. The engines were originally designed for use with some models of the petrol-burning Ford Fusion car. To be able to run in the oxygen starved atmosphere at 65,000 ft, the engines feature a multiple turbocharger system that compresses that available low density air and reduces the radiated infrared heat signature to increase its stealth properties.[13]

The engines, which provide 150 horsepower at sea level, have been tuned so as to be able to run on hydrogen.[13] Boeing&#039;s marketing department states that this will make the aircraft economical and &quot;green&quot; to run, as the only by-product will be water.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Phantom_Eye]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info. I&#8217;ll bet there is a fascinating fossil fuel negative influence back story to all these technologies that &#8220;didn&#8217;t work&#8221;. During exactly the same period NASA was using fuel cells on space vehicles. </p>
<p>Can anybody dare to say that nuclear power plants were <b><i>ever </i></b> economically feasible? Of course not. They could have built a hydrogen economy back then.  That was simpler than fuel cells. The fossil fuel industry just didn&#8217;t want it.<br />
There are a pair of ford fusion automobile engines (modified over ten years ago to run on hydrogen and then shelved) powering a drone right now that can run 30 hours non-stop and they were shooting for several days. Guess where the hydrogen comes from? A fuel cell!</p>
<p><a href="http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/11/1/cb70bebb-e997-48b1-8193-3c9324c36afc.Full.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/11/1/cb70bebb-e997-48b1-8193-3c9324c36afc.Full.jpg</a></p>
<p>Each of the two propulsion systems consist of modified Ford 2.3 liter engines, reduction gearbox, and 4-blade propeller. The engines were originally designed for use with some models of the petrol-burning Ford Fusion car. To be able to run in the oxygen starved atmosphere at 65,000 ft, the engines feature a multiple turbocharger system that compresses that available low density air and reduces the radiated infrared heat signature to increase its stealth properties.[13]</p>
<p>The engines, which provide 150 horsepower at sea level, have been tuned so as to be able to run on hydrogen.[13] Boeing&#8217;s marketing department states that this will make the aircraft economical and &#8220;green&#8221; to run, as the only by-product will be water.[13]</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Phantom_Eye" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Phantom_Eye</a></p>
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