Comments on: GM Working On $30,000, 200-Mile EV That Could Compete With Tesla Model E

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:58:00 +0000

People forget that Supercharger access is a $2,000 option on the 60kWH base Tesla, which now costs $71,070 (including freight, before $2,000 Supercharger enabled option price, before tax credits). You have to spend a minimum of $81,070 on an 85kWH car (including freight, before tax credits) to get “free” Supercharger access.

By: Jim Goller

Jim Goller — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:27:00 +0000

I have have driven 11k miles on 30 gallons of gas with my volt (some have gone thousands of miles on no gas), call that an “EV”, 92% of the time it is an EV, it just has a gas extender for longer trips that even a tesla couldn’t do without a supercharger. The Spark has more torque than a Ferrari and I think looks better than a Leaf (so does an old shoe). I think the Volt is now closer to $30 K in price, and has OnStar and is fast and fun to drive. GM is going to do OK…

By: synanon

synanon — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:26:00 +0000

Then why does no such car exist? If GM could make $20K EVs with 300 mile range you’d think they would let somebody know.

By: synanon

synanon — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:24:00 +0000

The Volt isn’t an EV and the Spark isn’t attractive, so GM has yet to solve the challenge.

Whats left is GM just starting out on this strategy while an affordable long-range EV has been Tesla’s “north star” since the company was created. Who would seriously bet on GM over Tesla?

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 21 Sep 2013 04:16:00 +0000

Tesla 200 miler will be able to use Supercharger network…free. Has GM figured that one out yet? Current commercial 240v chargers (Blink, Chargepoint, etc.) only charge 10 -12 miles per hour. And many of them cost you $2/hr to charge. Tesla will have full 200 miles put back in in same amount of time at no cost. Which $30K electric would you buy?
BTW – I love my Volt. But would like to drive electric 100% of the time. Better driving experience.

By: Wayne Williamson

Wayne Williamson — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 22:55:00 +0000

Availability of cheap batteries is the key….

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:31:00 +0000

Right. The way we build great cars is to turn workers into serfs.

Line ‘em up and screw ‘em.

By: Marion Meads

Marion Meads — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:23:00 +0000

The next couple of years is going to be extremely interesting in the EV world! GM is having a watchful eye over Tesla. Let us hope that there will be real competition instead of coopetition between the various EV makers. While GM has excellent scale up and Supply Chain Management experience, it is saddled with the same union workers….

By: Marion Meads

Marion Meads — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:17:00 +0000

You should mention Envia, to which GM is a stakeholder. In the Envia poster, the same GM BEV can go 300 miles with a price tag of only $20,000

http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Envia_Systems1.jpg

By: JamesWimberley

JamesWimberley — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:10:00 +0000

I back GM. Both GM and Tesla (as well as Renault-Nissan) have solved the conceptual challenge of designing an attractive, usable electric car. What´s left is a very straightforward double technical challenge – more range, lower cost – and the deeper the pocket, the more chance of getting there first.