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	<title>Comments on: Fracking Update: These Are The Texas Towns Running Out Of Water</title>
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		<title>By: Madrone Ridge</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-226495</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Madrone Ridge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 10:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has always seemed to me that the solution is so logical it is beyond simple.  Every Spring the ice and snow from Canada and along the Mississippi causes the banks to overflow.  Seems to me if we could build a pipeline for oil, we could also build one for water.  We have the technology and the resources to turn West Texas into an oasis. Within a few years, we could probably even plant crops out there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has always seemed to me that the solution is so logical it is beyond simple.  Every Spring the ice and snow from Canada and along the Mississippi causes the banks to overflow.  Seems to me if we could build a pipeline for oil, we could also build one for water.  We have the technology and the resources to turn West Texas into an oasis. Within a few years, we could probably even plant crops out there.</p>
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		<title>By: A Real Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-190648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Real Libertarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2013 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The hole in the ozone layer isn&#039;t as large as before the Montreal Protocol but it&#039;s still there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hole in the ozone layer isn&#8217;t as large as before the Montreal Protocol but it&#8217;s still there.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-190647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2013 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can post the same thing twice, but that doesn&#039;t make what you post correct.

You misread the article.  You are wrong about the charge against climate scientists.  And there is a hole in the ozone layer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can post the same thing twice, but that doesn&#8217;t make what you post correct.</p>
<p>You misread the article.  You are wrong about the charge against climate scientists.  And there is a hole in the ozone layer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-190645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2013 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, Travis.  There&#039;s nothing in the article about well drilling stopping rain from falling.


And you seem to have missed out on the news for quite a while.  Multiple high level organizations investigated the charges that scientists had been trying to hide evidence and what was discovered is that the people who were making those charges were lying.  They were taking pieces of emails and putting them together to say some things which were, in fact, not said.


And, yes, there is a hole in the ozone hole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, Travis.  There&#8217;s nothing in the article about well drilling stopping rain from falling.</p>
<p>And you seem to have missed out on the news for quite a while.  Multiple high level organizations investigated the charges that scientists had been trying to hide evidence and what was discovered is that the people who were making those charges were lying.  They were taking pieces of emails and putting them together to say some things which were, in fact, not said.</p>
<p>And, yes, there is a hole in the ozone hole.</p>
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		<title>By: A Real Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-190625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Real Libertarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fracking wells cause droughts via sucking reservoirs dry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fracking wells cause droughts via sucking reservoirs dry.</p>
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		<title>By: travis</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-190623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[travis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a lot of hate and stereotyping of millions of people in this 
uninformative article.  I&#039;ve never been to Texas, so I feel very 
unbiased there aren&#039;t any numbers to back up any of these claims.  Your 
right lets stick to science, tell me how drilling a well stops rain from
 falling from the sky.  And in science there are many theories one of 
which is global warning, believe it or not it should be questioned when a
 bunch of scientist were caught trying to hide evidence that it doesn&#039;t 
exist.  There are studies showing salt isn&#039;t bad, our invisible ozone 
has an invisible hole and now drilling causes rain clouds to dry up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of hate and stereotyping of millions of people in this<br />
uninformative article.  I&#8217;ve never been to Texas, so I feel very<br />
unbiased there aren&#8217;t any numbers to back up any of these claims.  Your<br />
right lets stick to science, tell me how drilling a well stops rain from<br />
 falling from the sky.  And in science there are many theories one of<br />
which is global warning, believe it or not it should be questioned when a<br />
 bunch of scientist were caught trying to hide evidence that it doesn&#8217;t<br />
exist.  There are studies showing salt isn&#8217;t bad, our invisible ozone<br />
has an invisible hole and now drilling causes rain clouds to dry up</p>
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		<title>By: travis</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-190621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[travis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a lot of hate and stereotyping of millions of people in this uninformative article.  I&#039;ve never been to Texas, so I feel very unbiased there aren&#039;t any numbers to back up any of these claims.  Your right lets stick to science, tell me how drilling a well stops rain from falling from the sky.  And in science there are many theories one of which is global warning, believe it or not it should be questioned when a bunch of scientist were caught trying to hide evidence that it doesn&#039;t exist.  There are studies showing salt isn&#039;t bad, our invisible ozone has an invisible hole and now drilling causes rain clouds to dry up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of hate and stereotyping of millions of people in this uninformative article.  I&#8217;ve never been to Texas, so I feel very unbiased there aren&#8217;t any numbers to back up any of these claims.  Your right lets stick to science, tell me how drilling a well stops rain from falling from the sky.  And in science there are many theories one of which is global warning, believe it or not it should be questioned when a bunch of scientist were caught trying to hide evidence that it doesn&#8217;t exist.  There are studies showing salt isn&#8217;t bad, our invisible ozone has an invisible hole and now drilling causes rain clouds to dry up.</p>
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		<title>By: Moses</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-188239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moses]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the solution this problem of not having enough water. I just need to get in contact with the right person to get it started. I can produce over one million gallons of water a day with a technology that is readily available at this very moment. I&#039;ve been trying to get some venture capital to back this project but the all important ROI (return on investment) has to be almost instant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the solution this problem of not having enough water. I just need to get in contact with the right person to get it started. I can produce over one million gallons of water a day with a technology that is readily available at this very moment. I&#8217;ve been trying to get some venture capital to back this project but the all important ROI (return on investment) has to be almost instant.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-182388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fracking served a nice purpose.  It brought down the cost of natgas so low that it allowed market forces to stop the building of new coal plants and coal mines.  Now the EPA has put new low limits that will essentially kill coal.  Once coal is dead and buried, fracking will be attacked next - after renewables have come down in price.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fracking served a nice purpose.  It brought down the cost of natgas so low that it allowed market forces to stop the building of new coal plants and coal mines.  Now the EPA has put new low limits that will essentially kill coal.  Once coal is dead and buried, fracking will be attacked next &#8211; after renewables have come down in price.  </p>
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		<title>By: clay county resident</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-182345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clay county resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[moron....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moron&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-181926</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who made that claim?

I&#039;ve seen claims that we would see more frequent and stronger storms. That&#039;s storms.  Not Cat3 hurricanes hitting the US.

And had you read NOAA on climate change and hurricanes you would have seen that some models predict fewer hurricanes due to stronger wind sheer interfering with hurricane formation.

Might we be seeing this in the graphs I gave you?  We see a higher frequency of storms, but not much increase in hurricanes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who made that claim?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen claims that we would see more frequent and stronger storms. That&#8217;s storms.  Not Cat3 hurricanes hitting the US.</p>
<p>And had you read NOAA on climate change and hurricanes you would have seen that some models predict fewer hurricanes due to stronger wind sheer interfering with hurricane formation.</p>
<p>Might we be seeing this in the graphs I gave you?  We see a higher frequency of storms, but not much increase in hurricanes.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeple</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-181923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steeple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the accusation is that we will have more powerful terms, Cat 3 is the level at which you typically see large scale evacuations and damage. Doesn&#039;t matter; we&#039;ve had hardy any landed storms since 2005 of any magnitude.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the accusation is that we will have more powerful terms, Cat 3 is the level at which you typically see large scale evacuations and damage. Doesn&#8217;t matter; we&#8217;ve had hardy any landed storms since 2005 of any magnitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-181921</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, so you count only storms stronger than Cat 3 that hit the US.  Got it. 
Champion cherry-picking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so you count only storms stronger than Cat 3 that hit the US.  Got it.<br />
Champion cherry-picking.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You said - &quot;We&#039;ve closed a tremendous number of coal fired power plants in the US while China continues to build new ones.&quot;  

The inference I got was that China has closed no plants.

--

US electricity plant age - EIA

http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=1830

Rainfall and drought extremes - not the graph I had in my collection but it covers the topic.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/spring-extreme-weather-events-in-2011-in-us-historic-and-record-setting/2011/06/15/AGVMkOXH_blog.html

--

Hurricanes and tropical storms per year...

http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2008/tropical-storm-hurricane-frequency/

Here&#039;s another source for hurricane and tropical storm data.  From a more mainstream source...

http://policlimate.com/tropical/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said &#8211; &#8220;We&#8217;ve closed a tremendous number of coal fired power plants in the US while China continues to build new ones.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The inference I got was that China has closed no plants.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>US electricity plant age &#8211; EIA</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=1830" rel="nofollow">http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=1830</a></p>
<p>Rainfall and drought extremes &#8211; not the graph I had in my collection but it covers the topic.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/spring-extreme-weather-events-in-2011-in-us-historic-and-record-setting/2011/06/15/AGVMkOXH_blog.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/spring-extreme-weather-events-in-2011-in-us-historic-and-record-setting/2011/06/15/AGVMkOXH_blog.html</a></p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Hurricanes and tropical storms per year&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2008/tropical-storm-hurricane-frequency/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2008/tropical-storm-hurricane-frequency/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another source for hurricane and tropical storm data.  From a more mainstream source&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://policlimate.com/tropical/" rel="nofollow">http://policlimate.com/tropical/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steeple</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steeple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell that to NOAA, Bob.

And I can&#039;t name one storm of Cat 3 or higher that has hit the US since 2005, so the 2006 cutoff doesn&#039;t bother me much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell that to NOAA, Bob.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t name one storm of Cat 3 or higher that has hit the US since 2005, so the 2006 cutoff doesn&#8217;t bother me much.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-181916</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This qualifies as a &quot;Oh, look, over there!  A shiny object!!&quot; distractor. 

The paper you link shows storm number adjustments prior to 1970.  And it cuts off at 2006.

I gave you a graph showing what looks like a developing spike well past 1970 and on to 2012. It also shows that most of the increase has been at the sub-hurricane level.  A major increase in tropical storms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This qualifies as a &#8220;Oh, look, over there!  A shiny object!!&#8221; distractor. </p>
<p>The paper you link shows storm number adjustments prior to 1970.  And it cuts off at 2006.</p>
<p>I gave you a graph showing what looks like a developing spike well past 1970 and on to 2012. It also shows that most of the increase has been at the sub-hurricane level.  A major increase in tropical storms.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeple</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-181910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steeple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob, what is the source data for those graphs? I would like to analyze further.

Never said that China has not closed a coal plant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, what is the source data for those graphs? I would like to analyze further.</p>
<p>Never said that China has not closed a coal plant.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeple</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-181908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steeple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See page 10 where NOAA adjusts for technology changes in storm tracking and identification 

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/gav0802.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See page 10 where NOAA adjusts for technology changes in storm tracking and identification </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/gav0802.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/gav0802.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/13/fracking-update-these-are-the-texas-towns-running-out-of-water/#comment-181904</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks like if we include both tropical storms and hurricanes in the Atlantic something is happening...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like if we include both tropical storms and hurricanes in the Atlantic something is happening&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A coal plant is a plant where coal goes in the front end and electricity comes out the back.

Yes,  China has built a lot more new coal capacity than they have closed, but  your claim that China has closed no coal plants is incorrect.
---

China&#039;s  GDP is heavily manufacturing.  A lot of it the manufacturing we used to do.  If you want to look at who needs to most clean up their CO2 emissions look first to the top 49 before you round up a lynching party for #50.
--

One of the effects of climate change seems to be to turn hurricane tracks out to see sooner.  It&#039;s too early to say for sure that is what will happen.

It may be that climate change will decrease the number of hurricanes.  

Continued droughts in Africa could result in more dust over the eastern Atlantic, cooling down the water in the area where most Atlantic hurricanes form.


I haven&#039;t checked, but the frequency/intensity of Pacific cyclones may be increasing.  Again, it will take many years to tell for sure if something is changing and in which direction.


Some models show a decrease in tornadoes as the US warms.  Others show them moving farther north, at least during the transitional time.


We might gain a little in terms of intense storm damage.  But that&#039;s not going offset the problems floods, droughts and heat waves would bring us for food production.  We lose little ag product to hurricanes or tornadoes.
--

&quot;If someone showed me statistical proof that these events are happening more frequently than statistical distribution would suggest, there might be something to discuss.&quot;


I&#039;ll post the graph again.  This time, give it a look....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A coal plant is a plant where coal goes in the front end and electricity comes out the back.</p>
<p>Yes,  China has built a lot more new coal capacity than they have closed, but  your claim that China has closed no coal plants is incorrect.<br />
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<p>China&#8217;s  GDP is heavily manufacturing.  A lot of it the manufacturing we used to do.  If you want to look at who needs to most clean up their CO2 emissions look first to the top 49 before you round up a lynching party for #50.<br />
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<p>One of the effects of climate change seems to be to turn hurricane tracks out to see sooner.  It&#8217;s too early to say for sure that is what will happen.</p>
<p>It may be that climate change will decrease the number of hurricanes.  </p>
<p>Continued droughts in Africa could result in more dust over the eastern Atlantic, cooling down the water in the area where most Atlantic hurricanes form.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t checked, but the frequency/intensity of Pacific cyclones may be increasing.  Again, it will take many years to tell for sure if something is changing and in which direction.</p>
<p>Some models show a decrease in tornadoes as the US warms.  Others show them moving farther north, at least during the transitional time.</p>
<p>We might gain a little in terms of intense storm damage.  But that&#8217;s not going offset the problems floods, droughts and heat waves would bring us for food production.  We lose little ag product to hurricanes or tornadoes.<br />
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<p>&#8220;If someone showed me statistical proof that these events are happening more frequently than statistical distribution would suggest, there might be something to discuss.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post the graph again.  This time, give it a look&#8230;.</p>
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