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	<title>Comments on: Rooftop Solar Accounts For 1.6% Of Australian National Electricity Market</title>
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		<title>By: A Real Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/11/rooftop-solar-accounts-for-1-6-of-australian-national-electricity-market/#comment-181819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Real Libertarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2013 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh my god, putting solar panels on rooftops doesn&#039;t make the building fireproof?

Well then what good are they? It&#039;s not anybody has to pay for coal electricity now is it? And coal electricity doesn&#039;t have any bad effects like pollution now does it?

Solar power is clearly a plot by the Commie JEW-nited Nations to steal our precious, precious bodily fluids and sap and impurify our gold!


RON PAUL 2012!!!1!!!111!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god, putting solar panels on rooftops doesn&#8217;t make the building fireproof?</p>
<p>Well then what good are they? It&#8217;s not anybody has to pay for coal electricity now is it? And coal electricity doesn&#8217;t have any bad effects like pollution now does it?</p>
<p>Solar power is clearly a plot by the Commie JEW-nited Nations to steal our precious, precious bodily fluids and sap and impurify our gold!</p>
<p>RON PAUL 2012!!!1!!!111!</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brakels</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/11/rooftop-solar-accounts-for-1-6-of-australian-national-electricity-market/#comment-181647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brakels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jimmy, rooftop solar can be bought for under $2.50 a watt in Australia without subsidy:

http://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/solar-pv-price-index-september-2013/

With a 5% discount rate this makes the electricity it produces well under half the cost of the 28 cents a kilowatt-hour average for mostly coal generated grid electricity.  

If the carbon price is scrapped it will cut retail electricity costs by less than two cents a kilowatt-hour so rooftop solar will still be under half the cost of grid coal power.  

So why on earth would people stop installing solar when it provides electricity for under half the price of coal?  Just because it makes Tony&#039;s budgies sad isnt&#039; going to stop them.

But I am very interested in these fires you mention.  Please provide me with as many links as you can on the topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy, rooftop solar can be bought for under $2.50 a watt in Australia without subsidy:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/solar-pv-price-index-september-2013/" rel="nofollow">http://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/solar-pv-price-index-september-2013/</a></p>
<p>With a 5% discount rate this makes the electricity it produces well under half the cost of the 28 cents a kilowatt-hour average for mostly coal generated grid electricity.  </p>
<p>If the carbon price is scrapped it will cut retail electricity costs by less than two cents a kilowatt-hour so rooftop solar will still be under half the cost of grid coal power.  </p>
<p>So why on earth would people stop installing solar when it provides electricity for under half the price of coal?  Just because it makes Tony&#8217;s budgies sad isnt&#8217; going to stop them.</p>
<p>But I am very interested in these fires you mention.  Please provide me with as many links as you can on the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy_Wattson</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/11/rooftop-solar-accounts-for-1-6-of-australian-national-electricity-market/#comment-181646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy_Wattson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony Abbott will fix solar power up, cut the carbon tax roll back wind and solar power policy.  in the next three years wind and solar power home shutting down as the price of electricity goes up.


By going back to coal power station can supply all our energy need,cheap base load electricity, no need for solar, as tony abbot said, &quot;cut the waste&quot; &quot;no need for fake energy&quot; from solar system. 


South Australia has reports of rooftop fires burning down houses with rooftop solar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Abbott will fix solar power up, cut the carbon tax roll back wind and solar power policy.  in the next three years wind and solar power home shutting down as the price of electricity goes up.</p>
<p>By going back to coal power station can supply all our energy need,cheap base load electricity, no need for solar, as tony abbot said, &#8220;cut the waste&#8221; &#8220;no need for fake energy&#8221; from solar system. </p>
<p>South Australia has reports of rooftop fires burning down houses with rooftop solar.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/11/rooftop-solar-accounts-for-1-6-of-australian-national-electricity-market/#comment-181616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are some good charts that show this over here, for example Internet node. Notice that the first 12 years looks flat when plotted on a linear graph (or % population above)

http://www.singularity.com/charts/page79.html   (linear)
http://www.singularity.com/charts/page78.html   (log)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some good charts that show this over here, for example Internet node. Notice that the first 12 years looks flat when plotted on a linear graph (or % population above)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.singularity.com/charts/page79.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.singularity.com/charts/page79.html</a>   (linear)<br />
<a href="http://www.singularity.com/charts/page78.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.singularity.com/charts/page78.html</a>   (log)</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brakels</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brakels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2013 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This rate&quot; shows electricity provided by combined wind and solar doubling every two and a half years or so.  That gives about 10 years until wind and solar provide all our electricity.  But as Mark Twain pointed out, simple extrapolation may not be the wisest of assumptions.  However, wind/solar capacity is doubling every 2-3 years while hydro capacity has been basically constant with output only varying in response to rainfall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This rate&#8221; shows electricity provided by combined wind and solar doubling every two and a half years or so.  That gives about 10 years until wind and solar provide all our electricity.  But as Mark Twain pointed out, simple extrapolation may not be the wisest of assumptions.  However, wind/solar capacity is doubling every 2-3 years while hydro capacity has been basically constant with output only varying in response to rainfall.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/11/rooftop-solar-accounts-for-1-6-of-australian-national-electricity-market/#comment-181567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New tech tends to start slow and then take off like gangbusters....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New tech tends to start slow and then take off like gangbusters&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Grad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cost of renewables has dropped significantly so it will speed up for sure.

Next big thing is battery storage. Today LiFePO battery costs about 400€ per kWh, which translates into about 20 cents/kWh during whole lifetime of battery. When it gets under 10cents/kWh renewables will just explode.

I think we&#039;re not far away, a couple of years and we&#039;ll be there. We&#039;d be faster if there wasn&#039;t such a massive anti-renewables propaganda, but things are as they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cost of renewables has dropped significantly so it will speed up for sure.</p>
<p>Next big thing is battery storage. Today LiFePO battery costs about 400€ per kWh, which translates into about 20 cents/kWh during whole lifetime of battery. When it gets under 10cents/kWh renewables will just explode.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re not far away, a couple of years and we&#8217;ll be there. We&#8217;d be faster if there wasn&#8217;t such a massive anti-renewables propaganda, but things are as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: mzso</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mzso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At this rate 100 percent might be reached in a 100 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this rate 100 percent might be reached in a 100 years.</p>
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