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	<title>Comments on: Nissan Testing Heat-Resistant Battery, Adding Two More EV Models</title>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Nead</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-196029</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Nead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You are describing a heat pump for the battery compartment, essentially,
 refrigerating it. According to Wikipedia, the MiEV only does that 
during charge cycles when it can draw the power needed for air 
conditioning from the power line. Unplugged, it uses a simple fan.&quot; 



Correct, Russ. I have since had an i-MiEV owner clarify this for me and explain further that it&#039;s only the CHAdeMO-equipped ones that do this, not the J1772-only ones (it was recently announced that all upcoming 2014 i-MiEVs will be CHAdeMO-equipped, so it&#039;s hoped the battery cooling system will be there as well.) 



What I also learned is that Japanese i-MiEV buyers have the option of purchasing the car with lithium titanate (LTO) Toshiba SCiB batteries, which are far most heat resistant than just about any other lithium chemistry and have charge/discharge characteristics that make them more adaptable to Quick Charging when compared to all others. 



The only downside with LTO cells is that they have significantly lower voltage per cell (2.4V per cell vs. around 3.6 of most others) and, hence, energy density of the pack is lower. Still . . . I wouldn&#039;t mind having the option of buying an LTO battery i-MiEV here in North America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are describing a heat pump for the battery compartment, essentially,<br />
 refrigerating it. According to Wikipedia, the MiEV only does that<br />
during charge cycles when it can draw the power needed for air<br />
conditioning from the power line. Unplugged, it uses a simple fan.&#8221; </p>
<p>Correct, Russ. I have since had an i-MiEV owner clarify this for me and explain further that it&#8217;s only the CHAdeMO-equipped ones that do this, not the J1772-only ones (it was recently announced that all upcoming 2014 i-MiEVs will be CHAdeMO-equipped, so it&#8217;s hoped the battery cooling system will be there as well.) </p>
<p>What I also learned is that Japanese i-MiEV buyers have the option of purchasing the car with lithium titanate (LTO) Toshiba SCiB batteries, which are far most heat resistant than just about any other lithium chemistry and have charge/discharge characteristics that make them more adaptable to Quick Charging when compared to all others. </p>
<p>The only downside with LTO cells is that they have significantly lower voltage per cell (2.4V per cell vs. around 3.6 of most others) and, hence, energy density of the pack is lower. Still . . . I wouldn&#8217;t mind having the option of buying an LTO battery i-MiEV here in North America.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Meads</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179841</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marion Meads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2013 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is where a contact-less charging station would be most appropriate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where a contact-less charging station would be most appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: WHITE NISSAN PATHFINDER 2014</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WHITE NISSAN PATHFINDER 2014]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Nissan Testing Heat-Resistant Battery, Adding Two More EV Models &#8230; [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Nissan Testing Heat-Resistant Battery, Adding Two More EV Models &#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apologies for all the comments

&lt;blockquote&gt;But if it&#039;s already 113° outside (ie: like it often is in the summertime in Arizona,) it&#039;s basically all for naught.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A system that sends hot coolant to a radiator that is relying on that 113 degree air to cool that liquid, isn&#039;t any better off. Some guys tested a Volt sitting on a hot tarmac in Arizona and found that the cooling system was actually heating the battery ...which makes sense because the surface temperature was 140 degrees.

You are describing a heat pump for the battery compartment, essentially, refrigerating it. According to Wikipedia, the MiEV only does that during charge cycles when it can draw the power needed for air conditioning from the power line. Unplugged, it uses a simple fan.

My guess as to why they don&#039;t; refrigerating a battery compartment while driving would greatly shorten range.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for all the comments</p>
<blockquote><p>But if it&#8217;s already 113° outside (ie: like it often is in the summertime in Arizona,) it&#8217;s basically all for naught.</p></blockquote>
<p>A system that sends hot coolant to a radiator that is relying on that 113 degree air to cool that liquid, isn&#8217;t any better off. Some guys tested a Volt sitting on a hot tarmac in Arizona and found that the cooling system was actually heating the battery &#8230;which makes sense because the surface temperature was 140 degrees.</p>
<p>You are describing a heat pump for the battery compartment, essentially, refrigerating it. According to Wikipedia, the MiEV only does that during charge cycles when it can draw the power needed for air conditioning from the power line. Unplugged, it uses a simple fan.</p>
<p>My guess as to why they don&#8217;t; refrigerating a battery compartment while driving would greatly shorten range.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nissan deliberately made the Leaf ugly so it won&#039;t kill the sales of their regular cars ...internet comment fields are strange places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nissan deliberately made the Leaf ugly so it won&#8217;t kill the sales of their regular cars &#8230;internet comment fields are strange places.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...I like big bug-eyed lights:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I like big bug-eyed lights:</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...can&#039;t argue with that .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;can&#8217;t argue with that .</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly we need a variety of looks.  People have different tastes.  But to date I haven&#039;t seen an EV besides the S that I would buy based on looks. The Fiat is kind of cute.  If even in other aspects I&#039;d buy it over the LEAF, but only if that was the best I could find.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly we need a variety of looks.  People have different tastes.  But to date I haven&#8217;t seen an EV besides the S that I would buy based on looks. The Fiat is kind of cute.  If even in other aspects I&#8217;d buy it over the LEAF, but only if that was the best I could find.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, and I realize that my atheistic sense is no more valid for others than yours is, but I find it pretentious looking, and would be embarrassed to drive it, so would my wife and two grown daughters, or so they said, but maybe they were just being supportive ...which would be a first! ; )

But feel free to commission a scientific survey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, and I realize that my atheistic sense is no more valid for others than yours is, but I find it pretentious looking, and would be embarrassed to drive it, so would my wife and two grown daughters, or so they said, but maybe they were just being supportive &#8230;which would be a first! ; )</p>
<p>But feel free to commission a scientific survey.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fast version still will not change how ugly it is...smaller non bug-eyed lights for one would be nice. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fast version still will not change how ugly it is&#8230;smaller non bug-eyed lights for one would be nice. </p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is my main issue with all minus Tesla. Make a frigging normal/nice looking ev and ppl will buy. I really want one but not the fugly leaf nor na ice after-thought no trunk conversion (focus). I&#039;d like the leafs cost/mileage but it&#039;s too ugly!!

That&#039;s the reason though I swear they make them as such (ugly/not practical) bc it&#039;ll kill their money making ice sales (and subsequent frequent ice sales). ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is my main issue with all minus Tesla. Make a frigging normal/nice looking ev and ppl will buy. I really want one but not the fugly leaf nor na ice after-thought no trunk conversion (focus). I&#8217;d like the leafs cost/mileage but it&#8217;s too ugly!!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the reason though I swear they make them as such (ugly/not practical) bc it&#8217;ll kill their money making ice sales (and subsequent frequent ice sales). </p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Park a LEAF and a Tesla S close to each other.  Survey people to find out which they would prefer to drive based on looks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Park a LEAF and a Tesla S close to each other.  Survey people to find out which they would prefer to drive based on looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179677</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed said &quot;inexpensive&quot; EV. Your advice is good but only at today&#039;s high prices. Get a 40 mile range EV down to the cost of a Yaris, and you might have a very popular second (or third) car for a two-or three car urban family ...just don&#039;t hold your breath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed said &#8220;inexpensive&#8221; EV. Your advice is good but only at today&#8217;s high prices. Get a 40 mile range EV down to the cost of a Yaris, and you might have a very popular second (or third) car for a two-or three car urban family &#8230;just don&#8217;t hold your breath.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walk out onto a bridge spanning six lanes of interstate at rush hour and take a picture. You will be hard pressed to find any cars that look identical. 



Pick the ten best looking cars. Pass the picture on to a thousand people. The correlation between your picks and the other ten thousand picks will approach zero.


If everyone had the same idea of what constitutes an attractive looking car, all cars would look the same. Note that they don&#039;t. Grab a beer and mull that one over.


We don&#039;t all see James Bond staring back at us from the bathroom mirror. A sports car version of the Leaf would appeal to those who do.


Because it is an electric car, it would cost very little extra to beef up the controller, wiring, and motor in the Leaf to make a version that would accelerate like a higher end sports car ...for those who place a high level of importance on that characteristic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walk out onto a bridge spanning six lanes of interstate at rush hour and take a picture. You will be hard pressed to find any cars that look identical. </p>
<p>Pick the ten best looking cars. Pass the picture on to a thousand people. The correlation between your picks and the other ten thousand picks will approach zero.</p>
<p>If everyone had the same idea of what constitutes an attractive looking car, all cars would look the same. Note that they don&#8217;t. Grab a beer and mull that one over.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t all see James Bond staring back at us from the bathroom mirror. A sports car version of the Leaf would appeal to those who do.</p>
<p>Because it is an electric car, it would cost very little extra to beef up the controller, wiring, and motor in the Leaf to make a version that would accelerate like a higher end sports car &#8230;for those who place a high level of importance on that characteristic.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179661</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If by &#039;sports car&#039; you mean &#039;really attractive car&#039;, I totally agree.


Build a car that people walk up to and check out because it looks great.  Then let them check to see who builds it and discover that it&#039;s an electric.


Tesla gets this.  EVs don&#039;t need to look like upgraded golf cars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by &#8216;sports car&#8217; you mean &#8216;really attractive car&#8217;, I totally agree.</p>
<p>Build a car that people walk up to and check out because it looks great.  Then let them check to see who builds it and discover that it&#8217;s an electric.</p>
<p>Tesla gets this.  EVs don&#8217;t need to look like upgraded golf cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a pretty good article. A few quibbles...

&lt;blockquote&gt;... where a well-publicized private demonstration showed that Leaf batteries were losing range faster than Nissan said they would. This stems back to Nissan’s decision to use an air-cooled battery, rather than liquid cooling.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nissan warned in the owner&#039;s manual that you could expect  to lose range faster in very high ambient temperatures. In fact, all of the electric cars warn about that. It is a well-established internet urban legend that it was the result of the Leaf&#039;s passive cooling but here&#039;s a quote from the Volt (liquid cooled) chief engineer:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;“The Volt may not be right for everyone. If you live in the  Southwest, depending on how you use your car, the Volt might not be right for you.”&lt;/i&gt;

I think Nissan needs a sports car to compliment its economy car. Take a look at the racing version of the Leaf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a pretty good article. A few quibbles&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; where a well-publicized private demonstration showed that Leaf batteries were losing range faster than Nissan said they would. This stems back to Nissan’s decision to use an air-cooled battery, rather than liquid cooling.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nissan warned in the owner&#8217;s manual that you could expect  to lose range faster in very high ambient temperatures. In fact, all of the electric cars warn about that. It is a well-established internet urban legend that it was the result of the Leaf&#8217;s passive cooling but here&#8217;s a quote from the Volt (liquid cooled) chief engineer:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;“The Volt may not be right for everyone. If you live in the  Southwest, depending on how you use your car, the Volt might not be right for you.”</i></p>
<p>I think Nissan needs a sports car to compliment its economy car. Take a look at the racing version of the Leaf.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/09/01/nissan-testing-heat-resistant-battery-adding-two-more-ev-models/#comment-179621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that&#039;s going to be an EV.  In order to enjoy the financial benefits of an EV you have to drive it.  Purchase prices are higher but &#039;per mile&#039; costs significantly less.  The more you drive an EV, the more operating expenses savings offset purchase price.


The ideal use of an EV is as your first vehicle.  Few people drive 100 miles a day, or even the 60 miles that one would get in cold weather.  Put mileage on the EV and drive your less efficient &quot;boat puller&quot;/whatever car only when the EV won&#039;t do.


If you&#039;d like to know how an EV would work for you keep driving records for a while.  Figure out how many days you wouldn&#039;t be able to do your daily driving with an EV and how predictable they are.  (Most people don&#039;t suddenly find out they are going to have to drive an extra 40, 100 miles.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s going to be an EV.  In order to enjoy the financial benefits of an EV you have to drive it.  Purchase prices are higher but &#8216;per mile&#8217; costs significantly less.  The more you drive an EV, the more operating expenses savings offset purchase price.</p>
<p>The ideal use of an EV is as your first vehicle.  Few people drive 100 miles a day, or even the 60 miles that one would get in cold weather.  Put mileage on the EV and drive your less efficient &#8220;boat puller&#8221;/whatever car only when the EV won&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to know how an EV would work for you keep driving records for a while.  Figure out how many days you wouldn&#8217;t be able to do your daily driving with an EV and how predictable they are.  (Most people don&#8217;t suddenly find out they are going to have to drive an extra 40, 100 miles.)</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would  like a small, very inexpensive vehicle to operate as my third vehicle to use on short trips. Cost must be  very low but it would be cool if they could use the Miata convertible platform]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would  like a small, very inexpensive vehicle to operate as my third vehicle to use on short trips. Cost must be  very low but it would be cool if they could use the Miata convertible platform</p>
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		<title>By: ga</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 05:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to see a new Leaf with a 32-40kwh battery, preferably one that doesn&#039;t weigh much more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see a new Leaf with a 32-40kwh battery, preferably one that doesn&#8217;t weigh much more.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With a fleet of delivery vans it starts to make sense to install a rapid charger and let them pick up some extra miles when they return for another load.

Fed Ex and UPS are using electric vans.  Many of their daily routes around town are less than 100 miles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a fleet of delivery vans it starts to make sense to install a rapid charger and let them pick up some extra miles when they return for another load.</p>
<p>Fed Ex and UPS are using electric vans.  Many of their daily routes around town are less than 100 miles.</p>
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