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	<title>Comments on: International Indoor Soccer Arena In Albuquerque Goes Solar, Sees Energy Bills Disappear</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin McGinnis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin McGinnis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Always good to see older buildings adopt solar instead of leaving it to buildings that were built with solar in mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always good to see older buildings adopt solar instead of leaving it to buildings that were built with solar in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesWimberley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JamesWimberley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thee aren´t many indoor soccer arenas in the Southwest, but a lot of shopping malls. These must have a similar load profile to the soccer arena: mainly a daytime a/c load. matching insolation very well. I´m sure their owners are all doing the arithmetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thee aren´t many indoor soccer arenas in the Southwest, but a lot of shopping malls. These must have a similar load profile to the soccer arena: mainly a daytime a/c load. matching insolation very well. I´m sure their owners are all doing the arithmetic.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesWimberley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JamesWimberley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And this is unfair why? Anybody else in New Mexico can go solar too. The arena´s main load is presumably daytime air conditioning, so its demands on the grid for lighting evening games is probably quite low. And if there´s a fixed component in the charge, they are paying for grid access.

The object of renewable energy is to kill off fossil fuels, as quickly as possible. Since these enjoy large subsidies and inflict huge external costs, there is no reason for renewables advocates and users to feel guilty about the minor advantages they do enjoy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is unfair why? Anybody else in New Mexico can go solar too. The arena´s main load is presumably daytime air conditioning, so its demands on the grid for lighting evening games is probably quite low. And if there´s a fixed component in the charge, they are paying for grid access.</p>
<p>The object of renewable energy is to kill off fossil fuels, as quickly as possible. Since these enjoy large subsidies and inflict huge external costs, there is no reason for renewables advocates and users to feel guilty about the minor advantages they do enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jouni Valkonen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jouni Valkonen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is true. In practice roof-top solar does require real batteries in order to become dominant way to produce power.



However I would guess that shale gas has significant load following abilities, so even without real batteries, grid might handle quite significant portion of solar panels. Especially in New Mexico where peak consumption is in mid summer due to air conditioning.


In Germany situation is far more difficult, because there are no shale gas available and peak demand is in the middle of winter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is true. In practice roof-top solar does require real batteries in order to become dominant way to produce power.</p>
<p>However I would guess that shale gas has significant load following abilities, so even without real batteries, grid might handle quite significant portion of solar panels. Especially in New Mexico where peak consumption is in mid summer due to air conditioning.</p>
<p>In Germany situation is far more difficult, because there are no shale gas available and peak demand is in the middle of winter.</p>
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		<title>By: tomandersen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tomandersen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In addition to the subsidies, this facility also pays nothing for being able to use the grid as a battery, when it most definitely is not. 

The cost of this installation is thus borne by those that pay for electricity, mostly renters and companies. Someone has to pay for the wires and backup generation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the subsidies, this facility also pays nothing for being able to use the grid as a battery, when it most definitely is not. </p>
<p>The cost of this installation is thus borne by those that pay for electricity, mostly renters and companies. Someone has to pay for the wires and backup generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You sure the project gets all of those?  Some subsidies are a choice of &quot;this or that?&quot;.

With wind a farm chooses between a PTC or ITC.  Can&#039;t have both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sure the project gets all of those?  Some subsidies are a choice of &#8220;this or that?&#8221;.</p>
<p>With wind a farm chooses between a PTC or ITC.  Can&#8217;t have both.</p>
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		<title>By: Jouni Valkonen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jouni Valkonen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks, here they are:

* Solar Market Development Tax Credit (10% of cost, $ 9k max)  » $9,000 
* PNM - Customer Solar Large PV Program 10-100 kW: REC $ 0.05 per kWh x 7 yrs: to 2020  » $24,779 NM 
* Renewable Energy Production Tax Credit  » $19,113 
* Federal Tax Credit (30% of Net Cost at Installation)  » $64,200
* &lt;b&gt;Total subsidies: $117 000&lt;/b&gt;

Subsidies are more significant than I thought, although also estimated $5 per watt are still quite high installation costs, so perhaps subsidies does reflect the true cost of solar, because installation costs in Albuquerque are higher than e.g. in Sydney.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, here they are:</p>
<p>* Solar Market Development Tax Credit (10% of cost, $ 9k max)  » $9,000<br />
* PNM &#8211; Customer Solar Large PV Program 10-100 kW: REC $ 0.05 per kWh x 7 yrs: to 2020  » $24,779 NM<br />
* Renewable Energy Production Tax Credit  » $19,113<br />
* Federal Tax Credit (30% of Net Cost at Installation)  » $64,200<br />
* <b>Total subsidies: $117 000</b></p>
<p>Subsidies are more significant than I thought, although also estimated $5 per watt are still quite high installation costs, so perhaps subsidies does reflect the true cost of solar, because installation costs in Albuquerque are higher than e.g. in Sydney.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.solar-estimate.org/?page=solar-incentives]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.solar-estimate.org/?page=solar-incentives" rel="nofollow">http://www.solar-estimate.org/?page=solar-incentives</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jouni Valkonen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jouni Valkonen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how much is the tax credit in New Mexico for this kind of solar system?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how much is the tax credit in New Mexico for this kind of solar system?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Kamotho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Kamotho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an inspiring article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an inspiring article.</p>
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