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	<title>Comments on: Ford Could Save America Billions (if it got rid of side mirrors)</title>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-201001</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Veritas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No! Quit lowering trucks, dammit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No! Quit lowering trucks, dammit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sort of a radical mirror-ectomy....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of a radical mirror-ectomy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rkt9</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-179131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rkt9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely a better idea than removing their mirrors!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a better idea than removing their mirrors!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-179124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how many millions of gallons of fuel could be saved if we moved freight to electrified rail and used trucks for only the &quot;last mile&quot;?

And since 100 mile ranges with battery powered trucks is doable (along with battery swapping to allow them toe keep on rolling) I wonder how much fuel we could save by making those last mile trucks electric as well?

I wonder how many billions of dollars we&#039;d save on highway repair if we took most of the heavy traffic off?

I wonder how many billions of dollars we&#039;d save on highway expansion if we left the existing highways to light vehicles?

So many questions....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many millions of gallons of fuel could be saved if we moved freight to electrified rail and used trucks for only the &#8220;last mile&#8221;?</p>
<p>And since 100 mile ranges with battery powered trucks is doable (along with battery swapping to allow them toe keep on rolling) I wonder how much fuel we could save by making those last mile trucks electric as well?</p>
<p>I wonder how many billions of dollars we&#8217;d save on highway repair if we took most of the heavy traffic off?</p>
<p>I wonder how many billions of dollars we&#8217;d save on highway expansion if we left the existing highways to light vehicles?</p>
<p>So many questions&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rkt9</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-179122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rkt9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how millions of gallons of fuel could be saved by removing the mirrors from the millions of big diesel powered tractors clogging our interstates, that average 100,000 miles traveled each year?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how millions of gallons of fuel could be saved by removing the mirrors from the millions of big diesel powered tractors clogging our interstates, that average 100,000 miles traveled each year?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what would the saving be if you eliminated the front lic plate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what would the saving be if you eliminated the front lic plate?</p>
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		<title>By: Notehead</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-179019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Notehead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was a massive fan of Aptera, partly because their design was so cool, but for that same reason I always suspected they wouldn&#039;t make it. So many others, too, had beautiful, radical designs (and insurmountable engineering and financial obstacles) and didn&#039;t pan out. Remember the Sparrow? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a massive fan of Aptera, partly because their design was so cool, but for that same reason I always suspected they wouldn&#8217;t make it. So many others, too, had beautiful, radical designs (and insurmountable engineering and financial obstacles) and didn&#8217;t pan out. Remember the Sparrow? </p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-178981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or was it because their design was too radical for significant market penetration?

New car purchase is a major decision for most people.  I would guess only a very small number would be willing to buy something this very different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or was it because their design was too radical for significant market penetration?</p>
<p>New car purchase is a major decision for most people.  I would guess only a very small number would be willing to buy something this very different.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiiano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kiwiiano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The elephant in the room is the millions of HUGE vehicles stuck in gridlock with 1 maybe 2 occupants. Aptera were on the target, but their dream cars would have been unsettling when surrounded by Detroit Dinosaurs (even tho they were reputedly compliant on crash resistance.) Was their demise really because of stupidity of bureaucrats insisting on wing-mirrors? Or an accumulation of financing difficulties? Hopefully the Aptera dream can be resurrected when your politicians remove their heads from where the sun don&#039;t shine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The elephant in the room is the millions of HUGE vehicles stuck in gridlock with 1 maybe 2 occupants. Aptera were on the target, but their dream cars would have been unsettling when surrounded by Detroit Dinosaurs (even tho they were reputedly compliant on crash resistance.) Was their demise really because of stupidity of bureaucrats insisting on wing-mirrors? Or an accumulation of financing difficulties? Hopefully the Aptera dream can be resurrected when your politicians remove their heads from where the sun don&#8217;t shine.</p>
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		<title>By: cmeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cmeyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to see what removing the mirrors from the c-max hybrid/energi might do for mpg.  This is already a high tech vehicle designed to maximize fuel economy.  Replacing side mirrors with cameras seems to me like low hanging fruit from an engineering standpoint.  Maybe in the 2015 models???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see what removing the mirrors from the c-max hybrid/energi might do for mpg.  This is already a high tech vehicle designed to maximize fuel economy.  Replacing side mirrors with cameras seems to me like low hanging fruit from an engineering standpoint.  Maybe in the 2015 models???</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-178944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Continental has developed its first 
air suspension system for an all-electric vehicle. Following a shortened
 development phase, the first series delivery of the air suspension 
system started in spring 2012 to a manufacturer of electric vehicles. 
Continental’s experience of air suspension systems goes back more than 
30 years; its chassis technology has been installed in luxury and other 
high-end vehicles as well as in minivans, pick-ups and vans.

The vehicle is the first purely electric vehicle to be equipped with a Continental air suspension.

An
 air suspension system automatically adapts damping and spring 
characteristics, along with the vehicle’s body level, to changing 
driving conditions and load changes. This reduces rolling and pitching 
movements and wheel load fluctuations.

The efficiency of an air 
suspension system is based on the interaction between sensors, 
electronics, and mechanics. Continental supplies electronic air 
suspension systems including scalable compressors, valve block, control 
unit, sensors and software.&quot;

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/08/20130828-conti.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Continental has developed its first<br />
air suspension system for an all-electric vehicle. Following a shortened<br />
 development phase, the first series delivery of the air suspension<br />
system started in spring 2012 to a manufacturer of electric vehicles.<br />
Continental’s experience of air suspension systems goes back more than<br />
30 years; its chassis technology has been installed in luxury and other<br />
high-end vehicles as well as in minivans, pick-ups and vans.</p>
<p>The vehicle is the first purely electric vehicle to be equipped with a Continental air suspension.</p>
<p>An<br />
 air suspension system automatically adapts damping and spring<br />
characteristics, along with the vehicle’s body level, to changing<br />
driving conditions and load changes. This reduces rolling and pitching<br />
movements and wheel load fluctuations.</p>
<p>The efficiency of an air<br />
suspension system is based on the interaction between sensors,<br />
electronics, and mechanics. Continental supplies electronic air<br />
suspension systems including scalable compressors, valve block, control<br />
unit, sensors and software.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/08/20130828-conti.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/08/20130828-conti.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-178930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Height adjustable suspension is a feature of certain automobile suspension systems that allow the motorist to vary the ride height
 or ground clearance. This can be done for various reasons including 
giving better ground clearance over rough terrain, a lower ground 
clearance to improve performance and fuel economy at high speed,[1] or for stylistic reasons. Such a feature requires fairly sophisticated engineering.

Height adjustment is most often achieved by air or oil compression used for the &quot;springs&quot; of the vehicle - when the pressure is varied - the vehicle body rises or lowers.

The first instance of a production vehicle with adjustable suspension was on the 1954 Citroën 15CVH. This vehicled featured a self-leveling, height adjustable hydropneumatic suspension. Since this time, these systems have appeared continuously on Citroën models, including the DS and CX.

Height adjustable suspension was banned in the United States from 1974 to 1981, due to the stringent interpretation of passenger vehicle bumper height regulations by the U.S. government agency NHTSA. Subaru was one of a few manufacturers who offered the feature after the ban was lifted on the Subaru XT, the Subaru Leone wagon and the Subaru Legacy for a short time.

Many modern SUVs use height adjustability as part of active suspension systems to improve the vehicle&#039;s versatility on and off road. The Range Rover offered this feature from 1993. New models of the Ford Expedition
 have a computer-controlled system designed for convenience, which 
lowers automatically when the doors are unlocked by remote, returns to 
normal height when the vehicle is started, and (on 4-wheel-drive 
models), raises when the 4x4 system is engaged.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_adjustable_suspension


A pickup with adjustable height suspension needs no running boards.  The truck can &quot;kneel down&quot; for entry and exit.  As some buses now do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Height adjustable suspension is a feature of certain automobile suspension systems that allow the motorist to vary the ride height<br />
 or ground clearance. This can be done for various reasons including<br />
giving better ground clearance over rough terrain, a lower ground<br />
clearance to improve performance and fuel economy at high speed,[1] or for stylistic reasons. Such a feature requires fairly sophisticated engineering.</p>
<p>Height adjustment is most often achieved by air or oil compression used for the &#8220;springs&#8221; of the vehicle &#8211; when the pressure is varied &#8211; the vehicle body rises or lowers.</p>
<p>The first instance of a production vehicle with adjustable suspension was on the 1954 Citroën 15CVH. This vehicled featured a self-leveling, height adjustable hydropneumatic suspension. Since this time, these systems have appeared continuously on Citroën models, including the DS and CX.</p>
<p>Height adjustable suspension was banned in the United States from 1974 to 1981, due to the stringent interpretation of passenger vehicle bumper height regulations by the U.S. government agency NHTSA. Subaru was one of a few manufacturers who offered the feature after the ban was lifted on the Subaru XT, the Subaru Leone wagon and the Subaru Legacy for a short time.</p>
<p>Many modern SUVs use height adjustability as part of active suspension systems to improve the vehicle&#8217;s versatility on and off road. The Range Rover offered this feature from 1993. New models of the Ford Expedition<br />
 have a computer-controlled system designed for convenience, which<br />
lowers automatically when the doors are unlocked by remote, returns to<br />
normal height when the vehicle is started, and (on 4-wheel-drive<br />
models), raises when the 4&#215;4 system is engaged.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_adjustable_suspension" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_adjustable_suspension</a></p>
<p>A pickup with adjustable height suspension needs no running boards.  The truck can &#8220;kneel down&#8221; for entry and exit.  As some buses now do.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Meads</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-178918</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marion Meads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Problem with the mirrors is that in many US States, it is required by law. Remember Aptera? They were forced to have mirrors because of the ancient antiquated rules!  Perhaps, a group of real world automakers can have lobbyists initiate a rewrite of the antiquated rules on mirrors. Aptera was only a dream company that became a nightmare because of Fambro.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem with the mirrors is that in many US States, it is required by law. Remember Aptera? They were forced to have mirrors because of the ancient antiquated rules!  Perhaps, a group of real world automakers can have lobbyists initiate a rewrite of the antiquated rules on mirrors. Aptera was only a dream company that became a nightmare because of Fambro.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Meads</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/28/ford-could-save-america-billions-if-it-gets-rid-of-side-mirrors/#comment-178917</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marion Meads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The shoe-box square shape basic body form of Ford trucks (and most vehicles for that matter) CAUSES THE BIGGEST aerodynamic DRAG! How can everyone overlook this giant problem and yet focus their eyes on the tiny mirrors?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shoe-box square shape basic body form of Ford trucks (and most vehicles for that matter) CAUSES THE BIGGEST aerodynamic DRAG! How can everyone overlook this giant problem and yet focus their eyes on the tiny mirrors?</p>
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		<title>By: anderlan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anderlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Straightaway, lowering the ride is a no-go without some serious changes: the extra height and suspension is for loading the truck down with cargo.  It must ride high when empty to accommodate a full cargo load without being flattened, and there must be a good distance between the 2 extremes to give a reasonable ride over terrain.  


An adjustable air suspension that allows driving low with nothing in the bed, but also allows expanding to accommodate a 1 ton load, might be a way to break this knot.  This just happens to be what Tesla has already explored with their sedans and will no doubt put in their truck when they make one.


Everything else looks do-able.  Except the running board thing.  How do you have running boards you can step on if they are flushed with the hull?  You&#039;d need some sort of kludgy push-in flap to put your feet in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Straightaway, lowering the ride is a no-go without some serious changes: the extra height and suspension is for loading the truck down with cargo.  It must ride high when empty to accommodate a full cargo load without being flattened, and there must be a good distance between the 2 extremes to give a reasonable ride over terrain.  </p>
<p>An adjustable air suspension that allows driving low with nothing in the bed, but also allows expanding to accommodate a 1 ton load, might be a way to break this knot.  This just happens to be what Tesla has already explored with their sedans and will no doubt put in their truck when they make one.</p>
<p>Everything else looks do-able.  Except the running board thing.  How do you have running boards you can step on if they are flushed with the hull?  You&#8217;d need some sort of kludgy push-in flap to put your feet in.</p>
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