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	<title>Comments on: US Wind Power Prices Down To $0.04 Per kWh</title>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 23:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fine with me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry_Lorusso</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202755</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry_Lorusso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What qualifies you to say my assessment is not correct? I&#039;ve have numerous publishing credits for my photographs including Sierra Club Wilderness Trails calendars. Have traveled extensively throughout the US in many National Parks including rowing the Grand Canyon 6 times. I didn&#039;t realize I was talking with an expert view evaluator and suppose I should defer to your superior judgement...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What qualifies you to say my assessment is not correct? I&#8217;ve have numerous publishing credits for my photographs including Sierra Club Wilderness Trails calendars. Have traveled extensively throughout the US in many National Parks including rowing the Grand Canyon 6 times. I didn&#8217;t realize I was talking with an expert view evaluator and suppose I should defer to your superior judgement&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, your view does not qualify as one of the most beautiful.

Those places have been put off limits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, your view does not qualify as one of the most beautiful.</p>
<p>Those places have been put off limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your good wishes but this time I bought a piece of land that is very unlikely to suffer from bad neighbors.

I can understand your unhappiness having been there several times before, but you are only one person.  There are 6+ billion of us who are going to get our butts kicked by climate change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your good wishes but this time I bought a piece of land that is very unlikely to suffer from bad neighbors.</p>
<p>I can understand your unhappiness having been there several times before, but you are only one person.  There are 6+ billion of us who are going to get our butts kicked by climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry_Lorusso</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry_Lorusso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not all places are appropriate for all things. Many would agree the Grand Canyon is not an appropriate place to put a dam, although it came close to happening. I&#039;m talking about a place that was, scenic, had solitude, and practically no improvements the was very close to being pristine and was only lacking federal control to be considered a wilderness under the Wilderness Act. The fact that a IWT project was put here is not just my own loss, but perhaps you don&#039;t mind the last natural places are being subject to industrial development for an expensive power source that needs to be backed up and can&#039;t respond to demand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all places are appropriate for all things. Many would agree the Grand Canyon is not an appropriate place to put a dam, although it came close to happening. I&#8217;m talking about a place that was, scenic, had solitude, and practically no improvements the was very close to being pristine and was only lacking federal control to be considered a wilderness under the Wilderness Act. The fact that a IWT project was put here is not just my own loss, but perhaps you don&#8217;t mind the last natural places are being subject to industrial development for an expensive power source that needs to be backed up and can&#8217;t respond to demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry_Lorusso</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202725</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry_Lorusso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m upset about living in the country and an industrial generation plant destroying a wild and natural place for an expensive source of electricity that can&#039;t respond to demand. The subsidies would be better spent on PV systems on private property so the environment is left intact to generate electricity where it&#039;s used and have individuals take responsibility instead of the government giving handouts to multinational corporations. Good luck on your next move!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m upset about living in the country and an industrial generation plant destroying a wild and natural place for an expensive source of electricity that can&#8217;t respond to demand. The subsidies would be better spent on PV systems on private property so the environment is left intact to generate electricity where it&#8217;s used and have individuals take responsibility instead of the government giving handouts to multinational corporations. Good luck on your next move!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facts stay the same, Larry.


You are upset about something happening on land you don&#039;t own.  It didn&#039;t have to be a wind turbine.  It could have been a shopping mall, an airport, any change that you didn&#039;t find pleasing to your eye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts stay the same, Larry.</p>
<p>You are upset about something happening on land you don&#8217;t own.  It didn&#8217;t have to be a wind turbine.  It could have been a shopping mall, an airport, any change that you didn&#8217;t find pleasing to your eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry_Lorusso</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry_Lorusso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We own 85 acres for 37 years and the East property line is State Forest. The farm sold in your case out where Iberdrola didn&#039;t buy 1 acre and doesn&#039;t pay property taxes either so is not comparable situations. You forgeting another choice which is have the state enforce existing noise regulations which allows 10db above ambient sounds. You may be inclined to let others force you out but some of us think defending our homes and rights is the right thing to do. It&#039;s not the view so much as the noise. Though it is a shame to have such a beautiful place ruined by someone who doesn&#039;t own or have a vested interest. The idea of wrecking the forest to save the trees doesn&#039;t work. If you want the forest you need to leave it or at least manage it carefully otherwise it&#039;s gone. It&#039;s why we don&#039;t clear cut, it&#039;s easier but it ruins the forest. Maybe the 4th time you are forced out you will see the forest for the trees and defend  your rights!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We own 85 acres for 37 years and the East property line is State Forest. The farm sold in your case out where Iberdrola didn&#8217;t buy 1 acre and doesn&#8217;t pay property taxes either so is not comparable situations. You forgeting another choice which is have the state enforce existing noise regulations which allows 10db above ambient sounds. You may be inclined to let others force you out but some of us think defending our homes and rights is the right thing to do. It&#8217;s not the view so much as the noise. Though it is a shame to have such a beautiful place ruined by someone who doesn&#8217;t own or have a vested interest. The idea of wrecking the forest to save the trees doesn&#8217;t work. If you want the forest you need to leave it or at least manage it carefully otherwise it&#8217;s gone. It&#8217;s why we don&#8217;t clear cut, it&#8217;s easier but it ruins the forest. Maybe the 4th time you are forced out you will see the forest for the trees and defend  your rights!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry, here&#039;s a fact that I&#039;ve learned from personal experience.

Unless you own your view you have no control over it.  Unless you own all the land around you then you have no control over it.  You can move to your little piece of paradise but if your kingdom is not vast enough people around you can make changes to their land that you may be able to see, hear and smell.

I&#039;ve experienced that personally three times.  I&#039;ve moved into beautiful spots my lot, acre or few acres surrounded by beauty and peacefulness. Then, each time, someone who owned land next to mine did things that changed my little world.  I went from bucolic to impacted.  I had been enjoying the quite and beauty of land that I didn&#039;t own.

Stuff happens.

My parents had a very nice home in a rural area.  Then the farm directly across the street from them which had been cows grazing on rolling hill turned into a massive Walmart.  The farm behind them became a housing development.  As did the farms on each side of them.

They went from living in a beautiful, quite environment to living in a noisy, traffic choked suburb in a five year span.

Since you don&#039;t own your view or enough land to buffer yourself from your neighbors you&#039;ve got two choices.  Suck it up or move.

The first two times my paradise was ruined I had to deal with it.  Moving was not an option at the time.  The last time my paradise was ruined, I moved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, here&#8217;s a fact that I&#8217;ve learned from personal experience.</p>
<p>Unless you own your view you have no control over it.  Unless you own all the land around you then you have no control over it.  You can move to your little piece of paradise but if your kingdom is not vast enough people around you can make changes to their land that you may be able to see, hear and smell.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve experienced that personally three times.  I&#8217;ve moved into beautiful spots my lot, acre or few acres surrounded by beauty and peacefulness. Then, each time, someone who owned land next to mine did things that changed my little world.  I went from bucolic to impacted.  I had been enjoying the quite and beauty of land that I didn&#8217;t own.</p>
<p>Stuff happens.</p>
<p>My parents had a very nice home in a rural area.  Then the farm directly across the street from them which had been cows grazing on rolling hill turned into a massive Walmart.  The farm behind them became a housing development.  As did the farms on each side of them.</p>
<p>They went from living in a beautiful, quite environment to living in a noisy, traffic choked suburb in a five year span.</p>
<p>Since you don&#8217;t own your view or enough land to buffer yourself from your neighbors you&#8217;ve got two choices.  Suck it up or move.</p>
<p>The first two times my paradise was ruined I had to deal with it.  Moving was not an option at the time.  The last time my paradise was ruined, I moved.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry_Lorusso</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry_Lorusso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, You not going to get anywhere with &quot;Real&quot;. He&#039;s a bigoted idiot and it&#039;s hopeless to try to convince him of anything. He thinks I&#039;m a whiner because the wind turbines near me regularly wake and keep us up at night. Bob says they can&#039;t be that loud at a mile away, so he&#039;s says I lie as well and we should move if we don&#039;t like it. They both use figures to support wind that have nothing to do with the real world, that are taken from pro wind that have billions to make from this ponzi scam. We have lived here for almost 40 years, a rural small town on the Vermont border. It was quiet with the sounds of civilization few and fleeting, much of that the reason we chose to live here. Now we live near and industrial power plant and it&#039;s noisy. The mountain ridge was beautiful before it was ripped up and filled in. It was mostly road less area of thousands of acres where the signs of humans were few and I used to call it the Enchanted Forest, not any more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, You not going to get anywhere with &#8220;Real&#8221;. He&#8217;s a bigoted idiot and it&#8217;s hopeless to try to convince him of anything. He thinks I&#8217;m a whiner because the wind turbines near me regularly wake and keep us up at night. Bob says they can&#8217;t be that loud at a mile away, so he&#8217;s says I lie as well and we should move if we don&#8217;t like it. They both use figures to support wind that have nothing to do with the real world, that are taken from pro wind that have billions to make from this ponzi scam. We have lived here for almost 40 years, a rural small town on the Vermont border. It was quiet with the sounds of civilization few and fleeting, much of that the reason we chose to live here. Now we live near and industrial power plant and it&#8217;s noisy. The mountain ridge was beautiful before it was ripped up and filled in. It was mostly road less area of thousands of acres where the signs of humans were few and I used to call it the Enchanted Forest, not any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re only going around in circles because you&#039;ve got some bad information on board and you refuse to jettison it.

You could go to the 2012 NREL &quot;The Past and Future Cost of Wind Energy &quot; and check their reporting of the LCOE for wind.  (Figure 3. Page 3.)

http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy12osti/54526.pdf

There you will see that they report $50/MWh (5c/kWh) for 2009 with prices rising a bit going into 2010.  The NREL seems to not have published anything on wind prices more recently.

The price rise in 2010 was due to demand for turbines exceeding supply which allowed manufacturers to increase the price which, in turn, caused LCOEs to rise for a while.

Following that more manufacturing capacity came on line and the price of turbine and the electricity generated dropped back down to the 5 cent level. 
You can see the same information extended out for a couple more years in the EIA 2012 Wind Technologies Wind Resources report.

Five cents is roughly what it costs  to generate electricity with wind. That price will continue to fall as technology improves.  GE announced new software that will increase the output of most turbines up to 5% recently. New turbine and blade design is pulling more energy out of slower wind sites.

Both the NREL and EIA are telling us that it costs about 5 cents to generate a kWh of electricity with wind.  Not the 15+ cents you claimed. 
Subsidies take the selling price of wind down to about four cents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re only going around in circles because you&#8217;ve got some bad information on board and you refuse to jettison it.</p>
<p>You could go to the 2012 NREL &#8220;The Past and Future Cost of Wind Energy &#8221; and check their reporting of the LCOE for wind.  (Figure 3. Page 3.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy12osti/54526.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy12osti/54526.pdf</a></p>
<p>There you will see that they report $50/MWh (5c/kWh) for 2009 with prices rising a bit going into 2010.  The NREL seems to not have published anything on wind prices more recently.</p>
<p>The price rise in 2010 was due to demand for turbines exceeding supply which allowed manufacturers to increase the price which, in turn, caused LCOEs to rise for a while.</p>
<p>Following that more manufacturing capacity came on line and the price of turbine and the electricity generated dropped back down to the 5 cent level.<br />
You can see the same information extended out for a couple more years in the EIA 2012 Wind Technologies Wind Resources report.</p>
<p>Five cents is roughly what it costs  to generate electricity with wind. That price will continue to fall as technology improves.  GE announced new software that will increase the output of most turbines up to 5% recently. New turbine and blade design is pulling more energy out of slower wind sites.</p>
<p>Both the NREL and EIA are telling us that it costs about 5 cents to generate a kWh of electricity with wind.  Not the 15+ cents you claimed.<br />
Subsidies take the selling price of wind down to about four cents.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeH123</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202323</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeH123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are hopeless.  I am done going around in circles. Maybe Michael Mendelsohn of NREL could teach you how wrong you are.  Then again, maybe even he can&#039;t help you.  I just know you are a waste of my time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are hopeless.  I am done going around in circles. Maybe Michael Mendelsohn of NREL could teach you how wrong you are.  Then again, maybe even he can&#8217;t help you.  I just know you are a waste of my time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, Mike, do you understand that depreciation is a deduction and not a credit?


Accelerated depreciation simply lowers the taxable base, it does not lower the tax directly.


$100 in accelerated depreciation does not mean one pays $100 less in taxes.  With a corporate tax rate of 35% it would mean that the company would get a savings of $35.


And since it is accelerated  depreciation that means that they are getting some tax savings early in their operation rather than later.  That time value stuff that you&#039;ve heard about but can&#039;t calculate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Mike, do you understand that depreciation is a deduction and not a credit?</p>
<p>Accelerated depreciation simply lowers the taxable base, it does not lower the tax directly.</p>
<p>$100 in accelerated depreciation does not mean one pays $100 less in taxes.  With a corporate tax rate of 35% it would mean that the company would get a savings of $35.</p>
<p>And since it is accelerated  depreciation that means that they are getting some tax savings early in their operation rather than later.  That time value stuff that you&#8217;ve heard about but can&#8217;t calculate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Four cents is the selling price.

The price is lowered by subsidies.  No one has argued that point.  All energy is subsidized.

All capex is depreciated for all businesses.  Accelerating the rate at which capital can be depreciated has value.  It does not have value equal to 30% of the investment.  Making that claim shows that you don&#039;t understand the math.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four cents is the selling price.</p>
<p>The price is lowered by subsidies.  No one has argued that point.  All energy is subsidized.</p>
<p>All capex is depreciated for all businesses.  Accelerating the rate at which capital can be depreciated has value.  It does not have value equal to 30% of the investment.  Making that claim shows that you don&#8217;t understand the math.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202306</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you can&#039;t do a simple calculation and find the value of getting the subsidy over the first half of the period rather than spread over the full period?

It doesn&#039;t take a model.  It&#039;s just math.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you can&#8217;t do a simple calculation and find the value of getting the subsidy over the first half of the period rather than spread over the full period?</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a model.  It&#8217;s just math.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capacity factor is calculated by measuring the total annual output of a generation source and dividing that by the hypothetical amount that would be generated were the source to run at full output 100% of the time.

You&#039;re spouting off about stuff you don&#039;t understand.  But hang in there, we&#039;ll educate you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capacity factor is calculated by measuring the total annual output of a generation source and dividing that by the hypothetical amount that would be generated were the source to run at full output 100% of the time.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re spouting off about stuff you don&#8217;t understand.  But hang in there, we&#8217;ll educate you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, ERCOT is the Texas grid.  You might want to educate yourself about the amount of wind Texas has installed.

We don&#039;t include the cost of spinning reserve when we cost out any other generation.  That&#039;s a grid operation cost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, ERCOT is the Texas grid.  You might want to educate yourself about the amount of wind Texas has installed.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t include the cost of spinning reserve when we cost out any other generation.  That&#8217;s a grid operation cost.</p>
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		<title>By: A Real Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Real Libertarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t really matter that you refuse to read the evidence?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t really matter that you refuse to read the evidence?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeH123</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/11/us-wind-power-prices-down-to-0-04-per-kwh/#comment-202187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeH123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have time to check the report.  Maybe we are talking about 2 different numbers but it doesn&#039;t really matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have time to check the report.  Maybe we are talking about 2 different numbers but it doesn&#8217;t really matter.</p>
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