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	<title>Comments on: Dealer Inventories Suffering From Nissan Leaf Success</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-174859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Point is not valid because.... It is not just at dealerships. In atlanta Nissan is installing 18 quick chargers strategically inside the perimeter off 75, 85, and 20 interstates. This is not old but progressive thinking. Nissan has put all their eggs in the ev basket, and is a huge risk. If your for the success of the ev then I suggest you show a little respect. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point is not valid because&#8230;. It is not just at dealerships. In atlanta Nissan is installing 18 quick chargers strategically inside the perimeter off 75, 85, and 20 interstates. This is not old but progressive thinking. Nissan has put all their eggs in the ev basket, and is a huge risk. If your for the success of the ev then I suggest you show a little respect. </p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-173248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That makes sense.  Add a third and no one has to leave in a rush.


Put them in places where people can get something to eat, pee, walk their dog, take a  nap.  Make free wifi available.  Businesses should cover part of the cost due to the extra trade they will create.  



Make the wait time productive and most people won&#039;t complain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes sense.  Add a third and no one has to leave in a rush.</p>
<p>Put them in places where people can get something to eat, pee, walk their dog, take a  nap.  Make free wifi available.  Businesses should cover part of the cost due to the extra trade they will create.  </p>
<p>Make the wait time productive and most people won&#8217;t complain.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsNotABoutTheMoney</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-173243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ItsNotABoutTheMoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In effect, that&#039;s what Tesla does with the supercharger, except it&#039;s 2 cars per charger.  The charger has a maximum rating (now 120kW), and it&#039;s first-come-first-served, so car 1 charges quickly while car 2 gets only a small amount of charge.  As car 1 tapers car 2 gets more.  Once car 1 is done or leaves car 2 now gets priority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In effect, that&#8217;s what Tesla does with the supercharger, except it&#8217;s 2 cars per charger.  The charger has a maximum rating (now 120kW), and it&#8217;s first-come-first-served, so car 1 charges quickly while car 2 gets only a small amount of charge.  As car 1 tapers car 2 gets more.  Once car 1 is done or leaves car 2 now gets priority.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsNotABoutTheMoney</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-173240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ItsNotABoutTheMoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No.  Even with ChaDeMo a Leaf is still close to 1:1 driving minutes:charging minutes for highway driving so it doesn&#039;t make it a long-distance vehicle.

 With the slow charging people have to think about the worst-case scenario in a BEV which means you need excess capacity to deal with wind, rain and cold.  Having a charger available means that you can top off to make it home.  Having ChaDeMo means that even if somebody&#039;s already there you won&#039;t have to wait too long.

Adding them to dealerships is about reducing range anxiety and in addition it&#039;s helpful to ensure that dealers can charge a demo car quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  Even with ChaDeMo a Leaf is still close to 1:1 driving minutes:charging minutes for highway driving so it doesn&#8217;t make it a long-distance vehicle.</p>
<p> With the slow charging people have to think about the worst-case scenario in a BEV which means you need excess capacity to deal with wind, rain and cold.  Having a charger available means that you can top off to make it home.  Having ChaDeMo means that even if somebody&#8217;s already there you won&#8217;t have to wait too long.</p>
<p>Adding them to dealerships is about reducing range anxiety and in addition it&#8217;s helpful to ensure that dealers can charge a demo car quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: apostasyusa</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-173041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[apostasyusa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes!  I want one of these!  Electric cars are the future of cars!!  Electricity is the future of energy, let&#039;s generate it as cleanly as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!  I want one of these!  Electric cars are the future of cars!!  Electricity is the future of energy, let&#8217;s generate it as cleanly as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: POLLUXAKS4</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-173038</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[POLLUXAKS4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[24,000 autos/year? whoop-de-doo. That&#039;s after bribing customers to buy. Either the original price was a rip-off or the current price is at a loss. And recharging at 80%? And thirty minutes to do that. Didn&#039;t check to see how many miles they advertise a full charge to last but shouldn&#039;t take longer than three days to go 500 miles. Cheaper and faster to take a train.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24,000 autos/year? whoop-de-doo. That&#8217;s after bribing customers to buy. Either the original price was a rip-off or the current price is at a loss. And recharging at 80%? And thirty minutes to do that. Didn&#8217;t check to see how many miles they advertise a full charge to last but shouldn&#8217;t take longer than three days to go 500 miles. Cheaper and faster to take a train.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-172961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 06:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone has to be a leader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone has to be a leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-172893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hook three cables to each rapid charger.  Charge cars on &#039;first to plug is first to charge&#039;.   That way you could plug in and not need to move your car for an hour.  (Rapid charging is likely to be around 20 minutes.)



Restaurants/shops along highways should jump at this.  They would get lots of people stopping to charge.  



Gas stations now make most of their profits off their mini-marts, not gas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hook three cables to each rapid charger.  Charge cars on &#8216;first to plug is first to charge&#8217;.   That way you could plug in and not need to move your car for an hour.  (Rapid charging is likely to be around 20 minutes.)</p>
<p>Restaurants/shops along highways should jump at this.  They would get lots of people stopping to charge.  </p>
<p>Gas stations now make most of their profits off their mini-marts, not gas.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-172889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[open a network of cafes on the highway with fast chargers
customer gets 30 mins for food and drink
car gets 30 mins for charging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>open a network of cafes on the highway with fast chargers<br />
customer gets 30 mins for food and drink<br />
car gets 30 mins for charging.</p>
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		<title>By: arne-nl</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-172778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arne-nl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;These fast chargers can give the Leaf an 80% in just 30 
minutes and will be centrally located in major population and shopping 
areas.&quot;

I question this choice by Nissan. Fast charging is mainly for enabling LEAF owners to cover large distances on a single day. Having to leave the highway and crawling your way into town in search for a Nissan dealer adds more time to that 30 minutes. You make the Achilles heel of the EV even more painful. Of course, it is cheaper and faster than the Tesla strategy of locating them as close to the highway as possible.

It exemplifies the difference between two cultures.  Nissan is thinking old style, as a bookkeeper: how do I keep costs low and maximize profit? Tesla is thinking new style, from the perspective of the customer: what would work best for me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These fast chargers can give the Leaf an 80% in just 30<br />
minutes and will be centrally located in major population and shopping<br />
areas.&#8221;</p>
<p>I question this choice by Nissan. Fast charging is mainly for enabling LEAF owners to cover large distances on a single day. Having to leave the highway and crawling your way into town in search for a Nissan dealer adds more time to that 30 minutes. You make the Achilles heel of the EV even more painful. Of course, it is cheaper and faster than the Tesla strategy of locating them as close to the highway as possible.</p>
<p>It exemplifies the difference between two cultures.  Nissan is thinking old style, as a bookkeeper: how do I keep costs low and maximize profit? Tesla is thinking new style, from the perspective of the customer: what would work best for me?</p>
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		<title>By: Toy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[400% of the population don&#039;t know what you guys are arguing about..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>400% of the population don&#8217;t know what you guys are arguing about..</p>
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		<title>By: Hippo</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-172730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IF they had said 400% of last years sales it would have been correct but that is still only a 300% increase in sales. It all comes down to wording.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF they had said 400% of last years sales it would have been correct but that is still only a 300% increase in sales. It all comes down to wording.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/20/dealer-inventories-suffering-from-nissan-leaf-success/#comment-172689</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2013 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s not how it works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not how it works.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Meaning of Quad is 4, hence 400%]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Meaning of Quad is 4, hence 400%</p>
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		<title>By: Folatt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Folatt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quadrupling is a 300% increase, not 400%. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quadrupling is a 300% increase, not 400%. </p>
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