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	<title>Comments on: Petition: Let Californians Oversize Their Solar Power Systems</title>
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		<title>By: CaliforniaView</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-253827</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps $0.25 per KWh is a bit high.
Let&#039;s do: the Lesser of 100% of Tier1 ($0.15) or 60% of Tier4 ($0.32)
so this limits PG&amp;E to a 40% to 50% Margin on rooftop PV-Solar.
Let&#039;s renew the Petition and add some Legislative Action Partners (RAN, Credo, etc) to pursue the CA Assembly Members &amp; Senators.
&quot;If it&#039;s not an Election Issue - it does not matter.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps $0.25 per KWh is a bit high.<br />
Let&#8217;s do: the Lesser of 100% of Tier1 ($0.15) or 60% of Tier4 ($0.32)<br />
so this limits PG&amp;E to a 40% to 50% Margin on rooftop PV-Solar.<br />
Let&#8217;s renew the Petition and add some Legislative Action Partners (RAN, Credo, etc) to pursue the CA Assembly Members &amp; Senators.<br />
&#8220;If it&#8217;s not an Election Issue &#8211; it does not matter.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: aiya</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-175624</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the increasing cost of energy, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aussiebatteriessolar.com.au/solar/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;solar power systems&lt;/a&gt; is a very good alternative. It might cost you a little at first upon purchase but the benefit that you can get from it as the time goes is worth it. There are things that you should know first before purchasing the system. This article is very helpful if you are thinking of buying one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the increasing cost of energy, the <a href="http://www.aussiebatteriessolar.com.au/solar/" rel="nofollow">solar power systems</a> is a very good alternative. It might cost you a little at first upon purchase but the benefit that you can get from it as the time goes is worth it. There are things that you should know first before purchasing the system. This article is very helpful if you are thinking of buying one.</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170766</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Jim, scroll down a little and you will read the first page of the petition, after being exposed to the whole proposal, does it change your comment ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jim, scroll down a little and you will read the first page of the petition, after being exposed to the whole proposal, does it change your comment ?</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Zackary, I am posting the front side of the petition, because this is what people first read, then they click onto the link and read the background which does need some work, thank you.   &quot;Right now the course of our future is being set by the fossil fuel industry, the most powerful corporations in the history of the world, and they’re steering us off a cliff into a raging inferno. They fight each day to blow up more mountains for coal, demolish more land and oceans for oil and shatter more of the ground beneath our feet by fracking for oil and gas with a cocktail of the most toxic chemicals known to humankind. With each passing day that these interests set our course, with every additional ton of greenhouse gases emitted like a poison in our atmosphere, the drier the ink becomes on the bleak future written by the fossil fuel industry.

That future is one where oceans drown our coastal homes and cities, where biodiversity is diminished. It’s a future where droughts will parch our agricultural fields and allow wildfires to run rampant. It’s a future where clean, freshwater will be among the world’s scarcest resources, and where smog and pollution suffocate our lungs and the planet’s.

Given the fossil fuel industry’s seemingly unlimited money and political influence, changing their course and taking control of our future is a tall order. But again, we must. And all of you, can make the choices that lead you to seize that control.
I can tell you how significant a difference each of us can make, how important the choices we make can be and the power we have in this country.&quot; John Armstrong.

&quot;The motivation and the goals of Germany’s unprecedented solar policy are neither a secret nor hard to research (EEG 2004, Article 1). For decades, the main problem of solar had been identified as it being too expensive to deploy. But, at the same time, only deployment and mass production would lead to significant cost reductions. To overcome this barrier, the German parliament adapted the Feed-in-Tariff (FiT) in 2004 to incentivize the installation of solar PV systems, thus creating the first uncapped mass market for solar power. It was the goal to reduce the technology’s cost through deployment, innovation, and market forces within the solar industry. The plan has succeeded a lot faster than anticipated and the cost of PV is expected to decline by at least another 50% by 2020.&quot; Paul Gipe.

The Feed in Tariff is a policy mechanism designed to accelerate investment in Renewable Energy, the California FiT allows eligible customers generators to enter into 10- 15- 20- year contracts with their utility company to sell the electricity produced by renewable energy, and guarantees that anyone who generates electricity from R E source, whether homeowner, small business, or large utility, is able to sell that electricity. It is mandated by the State to produce 33% R E by 2020.

FIT policies can be implemented to support all renewable technologies including:
Wind
Photovoltaics (PV)
Solar thermal
Geothermal
Biogas
Biomass
Fuel cells
Tidal and wave power.

So long as the payment levels are differentiated appropriately, FIT policies can increase development in a number of different technology types over a wide geographic area. At the same time, they can contribute to local job creation and increased clean energy development in a variety of different technology sectors.

FIT policies are successful around the world, notably in Europe. This suggests that they will continue to grow in importance in the United States, especially as evidence mounts about their effectiveness as framework for promoting renewable energy development and job creation.

With the worlds carbon levels at 400-410 parts per million and rising, globally emitting over 32 Gigatons of CO2 each year, causing Global Warming and life changing pollution, Renewable Energy will address these issues and start us on the road back to 350 parts per million of carbon, Thank You Bill McKibben. 

California law does not allow Homeowners to oversize their Renewable Energy systems.

Allowing homeowners to oversize their Renewable Energy systems, is a true capitalistic tool, that will give us the potential to challenge the utility monopolies, democratize energy generation and transform millions of homes and small business into energy generators, during Sandy, Solar homes where not utilized to their full potential, because there was no disconnect and or transfer switch, to turn off incoming grid and start in home Solar power. how comforting it would be, to have mandatory transfer switches on all residential and small business renewable energy installations. 

We don&#039;t even take into account the tremendous health cost to us and our planet, when we burn oil, coal, and natural gas, which would make them more expensive than Renewable Energy.

Since 2000-2001, according to the California Energy Commission, power plants with maximum output totaling about 20,000 megawatts have become operational. An additional 3,900 megawatts are under construction and 4,700 more have been approved and are in pre-construction phases.

The new plants should boost California&#039;s energy independence. The state currently produces about 71% of the electricity it consumes, while it imports 8% from the Pacific Northwest and 21% from the Southwest.

Natural gas was burned to make 45.3% of California&#039;s power generated in-state in 2011. Nuclear power from San Onofre and Diablo Canyon in San Luis Obispo County accounted for 18.3%, large hydropower 18.3%, renewable 16.6% and coal 1.6%.

We need a National Feed in Tariff, for Renewable Energy, with laws that level the playing field, this petition starts with homeowners in California. 

Japan, Germany, and our state of Hawaii, will pay residents between 21- 47 cents per kilowatt hour, here in California they will pay a commercial FiT in a few counties at 17 cents per kilowatt hour, No Residential FiT and they wont let us oversize our Residential Renewable Energy systems.

Want to change our Feed in Tariff? Campaign to allow Californian residents to sell electricity obtained by renewable energy for a fair pro-business market price. Will you read, sign, and share this petition?

http://signon.org/sign/let-california-home-owners]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zackary, I am posting the front side of the petition, because this is what people first read, then they click onto the link and read the background which does need some work, thank you.   &#8220;Right now the course of our future is being set by the fossil fuel industry, the most powerful corporations in the history of the world, and they’re steering us off a cliff into a raging inferno. They fight each day to blow up more mountains for coal, demolish more land and oceans for oil and shatter more of the ground beneath our feet by fracking for oil and gas with a cocktail of the most toxic chemicals known to humankind. With each passing day that these interests set our course, with every additional ton of greenhouse gases emitted like a poison in our atmosphere, the drier the ink becomes on the bleak future written by the fossil fuel industry.</p>
<p>That future is one where oceans drown our coastal homes and cities, where biodiversity is diminished. It’s a future where droughts will parch our agricultural fields and allow wildfires to run rampant. It’s a future where clean, freshwater will be among the world’s scarcest resources, and where smog and pollution suffocate our lungs and the planet’s.</p>
<p>Given the fossil fuel industry’s seemingly unlimited money and political influence, changing their course and taking control of our future is a tall order. But again, we must. And all of you, can make the choices that lead you to seize that control.<br />
I can tell you how significant a difference each of us can make, how important the choices we make can be and the power we have in this country.&#8221; John Armstrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;The motivation and the goals of Germany’s unprecedented solar policy are neither a secret nor hard to research (EEG 2004, Article 1). For decades, the main problem of solar had been identified as it being too expensive to deploy. But, at the same time, only deployment and mass production would lead to significant cost reductions. To overcome this barrier, the German parliament adapted the Feed-in-Tariff (FiT) in 2004 to incentivize the installation of solar PV systems, thus creating the first uncapped mass market for solar power. It was the goal to reduce the technology’s cost through deployment, innovation, and market forces within the solar industry. The plan has succeeded a lot faster than anticipated and the cost of PV is expected to decline by at least another 50% by 2020.&#8221; Paul Gipe.</p>
<p>The Feed in Tariff is a policy mechanism designed to accelerate investment in Renewable Energy, the California FiT allows eligible customers generators to enter into 10- 15- 20- year contracts with their utility company to sell the electricity produced by renewable energy, and guarantees that anyone who generates electricity from R E source, whether homeowner, small business, or large utility, is able to sell that electricity. It is mandated by the State to produce 33% R E by 2020.</p>
<p>FIT policies can be implemented to support all renewable technologies including:<br />
Wind<br />
Photovoltaics (PV)<br />
Solar thermal<br />
Geothermal<br />
Biogas<br />
Biomass<br />
Fuel cells<br />
Tidal and wave power.</p>
<p>So long as the payment levels are differentiated appropriately, FIT policies can increase development in a number of different technology types over a wide geographic area. At the same time, they can contribute to local job creation and increased clean energy development in a variety of different technology sectors.</p>
<p>FIT policies are successful around the world, notably in Europe. This suggests that they will continue to grow in importance in the United States, especially as evidence mounts about their effectiveness as framework for promoting renewable energy development and job creation.</p>
<p>With the worlds carbon levels at 400-410 parts per million and rising, globally emitting over 32 Gigatons of CO2 each year, causing Global Warming and life changing pollution, Renewable Energy will address these issues and start us on the road back to 350 parts per million of carbon, Thank You Bill McKibben. </p>
<p>California law does not allow Homeowners to oversize their Renewable Energy systems.</p>
<p>Allowing homeowners to oversize their Renewable Energy systems, is a true capitalistic tool, that will give us the potential to challenge the utility monopolies, democratize energy generation and transform millions of homes and small business into energy generators, during Sandy, Solar homes where not utilized to their full potential, because there was no disconnect and or transfer switch, to turn off incoming grid and start in home Solar power. how comforting it would be, to have mandatory transfer switches on all residential and small business renewable energy installations. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t even take into account the tremendous health cost to us and our planet, when we burn oil, coal, and natural gas, which would make them more expensive than Renewable Energy.</p>
<p>Since 2000-2001, according to the California Energy Commission, power plants with maximum output totaling about 20,000 megawatts have become operational. An additional 3,900 megawatts are under construction and 4,700 more have been approved and are in pre-construction phases.</p>
<p>The new plants should boost California&#8217;s energy independence. The state currently produces about 71% of the electricity it consumes, while it imports 8% from the Pacific Northwest and 21% from the Southwest.</p>
<p>Natural gas was burned to make 45.3% of California&#8217;s power generated in-state in 2011. Nuclear power from San Onofre and Diablo Canyon in San Luis Obispo County accounted for 18.3%, large hydropower 18.3%, renewable 16.6% and coal 1.6%.</p>
<p>We need a National Feed in Tariff, for Renewable Energy, with laws that level the playing field, this petition starts with homeowners in California. </p>
<p>Japan, Germany, and our state of Hawaii, will pay residents between 21- 47 cents per kilowatt hour, here in California they will pay a commercial FiT in a few counties at 17 cents per kilowatt hour, No Residential FiT and they wont let us oversize our Residential Renewable Energy systems.</p>
<p>Want to change our Feed in Tariff? Campaign to allow Californian residents to sell electricity obtained by renewable energy for a fair pro-business market price. Will you read, sign, and share this petition?</p>
<p><a href="http://signon.org/sign/let-california-home-owners" rel="nofollow">http://signon.org/sign/let-california-home-owners</a></p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ronald, we need both a carbon tax and a Feed in Tariff,  that covers, energy companies, third party leasing, commercial and homeowners, in order to address the 400ppm of carbon in ouratmosphere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald, we need both a carbon tax and a Feed in Tariff,  that covers, energy companies, third party leasing, commercial and homeowners, in order to address the 400ppm of carbon in ouratmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brakels</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brakels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Azaredaniel, putting a price on carbon, either through an emissions trading scheme or a carbon tax is the most efficient way to reduce CO2 emissions.  But the carbon price per tonne is not the same as the cost of removing a tonne of CO2 from the atmosphere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azaredaniel, putting a price on carbon, either through an emissions trading scheme or a carbon tax is the most efficient way to reduce CO2 emissions.  But the carbon price per tonne is not the same as the cost of removing a tonne of CO2 from the atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170454</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there any paragraph or sentence that you did not understand ? What was incomprehensible or confusing for you ?  this format was the first, i am in the process of tightening it up, 3, 5, 7th rewrite will get better. thank you for taking the time to comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any paragraph or sentence that you did not understand ? What was incomprehensible or confusing for you ?  this format was the first, i am in the process of tightening it up, 3, 5, 7th rewrite will get better. thank you for taking the time to comment.</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170451</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It feels that way some times, but its the first round, commercial Feed in tariff is working in LA, Palo Alto and Sacramento, paying 17 cents per kilowatt hour, that is a fight we have won, know it is time for the Home owner to fight Global Waring and Climate Change and have a piece of the revenue stream for saving or retirement. will you join the fight and sign the petition ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It feels that way some times, but its the first round, commercial Feed in tariff is working in LA, Palo Alto and Sacramento, paying 17 cents per kilowatt hour, that is a fight we have won, know it is time for the Home owner to fight Global Waring and Climate Change and have a piece of the revenue stream for saving or retirement. will you join the fight and sign the petition ?</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170449</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Germany, Spain, Japan, and Hawaii, are a few Countries and a State who used the Feed in Tariff to accelerate market demand, and it worked, here in California where LA, Palo Alto, and Sacramento have Commercial Feed in Tariffs that currently pay 17 cents per kilowatt hour, and with Third party leasing, we have to jump into the game at current levels]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany, Spain, Japan, and Hawaii, are a few Countries and a State who used the Feed in Tariff to accelerate market demand, and it worked, here in California where LA, Palo Alto, and Sacramento have Commercial Feed in Tariffs that currently pay 17 cents per kilowatt hour, and with Third party leasing, we have to jump into the game at current levels</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[California has a cap and trade program, it started in  Nov 2012 and their first auction sold a ton of C02 for $10.50, second Feb $13.62, and May $14.04, they have made over $802 million dollars to be divided,  $556 million to help keep Energy prices down goes to the Utilites, and $256 million goes fro Green investment for California, are you shocked at the price per ton ? and that is based on only 50 million tons sold. Information by Clean Technica]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California has a cap and trade program, it started in  Nov 2012 and their first auction sold a ton of C02 for $10.50, second Feb $13.62, and May $14.04, they have made over $802 million dollars to be divided,  $556 million to help keep Energy prices down goes to the Utilites, and $256 million goes fro Green investment for California, are you shocked at the price per ton ? and that is based on only 50 million tons sold. Information by Clean Technica</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 25 cents per kilowatt hour is off the table, 15 17 cents per kilowatt hour is the current number not reflected in the petition, there will also be a sliding down scale for cents per kilowatt hour, based on the percent of our capacity filled, to eventually settle  at  2 or 3 cents below the cost of the first tier in your area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 25 cents per kilowatt hour is off the table, 15 17 cents per kilowatt hour is the current number not reflected in the petition, there will also be a sliding down scale for cents per kilowatt hour, based on the percent of our capacity filled, to eventually settle  at  2 or 3 cents below the cost of the first tier in your area.</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170443</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right On Tom, good information, did you get a chance to sign the petition ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right On Tom, good information, did you get a chance to sign the petition ?</p>
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		<title>By: azaredaniel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azaredaniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rebates will surely go and the initial per kilowatt hour will be in the ball park of 15 - 17 cents per kilowatt hour, then go down over time, where it will settle in at 2-3 cents below what ever your utility is charging you in the first Tier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rebates will surely go and the initial per kilowatt hour will be in the ball park of 15 &#8211; 17 cents per kilowatt hour, then go down over time, where it will settle in at 2-3 cents below what ever your utility is charging you in the first Tier.</p>
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		<title>By: LA Solar Power</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LA Solar Power]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those rebates are running out.  How quickly can this petition be signed and passed before the rebates are gone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those rebates are running out.  How quickly can this petition be signed and passed before the rebates are gone?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brakels</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brakels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or base it on carbon emissions avoided and the cost of removing CO2 from the atmosphere.  Here in Australia I can remove CO2 from the atmosphere for about $100 a tonne, although I think it&#039;s possible to get the costs lower.  At $100 a tonne a kilowatt-hour of rooftop solar electricity supplied to the grid avoids about 85 cents worth CO2 in Australia.  Of course it should be more efficient to just put a price on carbon instead, but unfortunately that doesn&#039;t seem to be about to happen just at the moment in the US, so you might have to settle for things such subsidising low emission electricity.  A less efficient approach, but much better than doing nothing given the high cost of doing nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or base it on carbon emissions avoided and the cost of removing CO2 from the atmosphere.  Here in Australia I can remove CO2 from the atmosphere for about $100 a tonne, although I think it&#8217;s possible to get the costs lower.  At $100 a tonne a kilowatt-hour of rooftop solar electricity supplied to the grid avoids about 85 cents worth CO2 in Australia.  Of course it should be more efficient to just put a price on carbon instead, but unfortunately that doesn&#8217;t seem to be about to happen just at the moment in the US, so you might have to settle for things such subsidising low emission electricity.  A less efficient approach, but much better than doing nothing given the high cost of doing nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: anderlan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170197</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anderlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If solar sold for 25c/kwh in my state I&#039;d go out and get a loan to start an installation company THIS AFTERNOON.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If solar sold for 25c/kwh in my state I&#8217;d go out and get a loan to start an installation company THIS AFTERNOON.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom G.</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today it looks like the Western ISO grid is going to peak at about 41,000 MW.  Solar and other renewables are just beginning to come online and will probably peak out at about 3,300 MW today based on historical data.

http://www.caiso.com/Pages/TodaysOutlook.aspx

So it appears to me that if solar and other renewable were available, they COULD be filling the gap between the minimum grid level of about 24,000 MW [baseload] and the maximum grid [peak demand] of 41,000 MW.  And we already have lots of backup generation so that is certainly not a problem.  


So from my perspective, while California is making very good progress developing and using clean renewable energy they have one heck of a long way to go.  If renewables like solar, wind and geothermal were available, we could be feeding in at least 20,000 MW today. 


So I say - build it and they will come California - it can certainly be used.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today it looks like the Western ISO grid is going to peak at about 41,000 MW.  Solar and other renewables are just beginning to come online and will probably peak out at about 3,300 MW today based on historical data.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.caiso.com/Pages/TodaysOutlook.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.caiso.com/Pages/TodaysOutlook.aspx</a></p>
<p>So it appears to me that if solar and other renewable were available, they COULD be filling the gap between the minimum grid level of about 24,000 MW [baseload] and the maximum grid [peak demand] of 41,000 MW.  And we already have lots of backup generation so that is certainly not a problem.  </p>
<p>So from my perspective, while California is making very good progress developing and using clean renewable energy they have one heck of a long way to go.  If renewables like solar, wind and geothermal were available, we could be feeding in at least 20,000 MW today. </p>
<p>So I say &#8211; build it and they will come California &#8211; it can certainly be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom G.</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a couple of minor comments since I love talking about energy consumption.  You are correct that air conditioning units are a big energy consumer.  For example, I have a 3 1/2 ton Lennox heat pump on my home and it uses 3.51 kW per hour.  I also have two LCD TV&#039;s that use almost nothing when compared to many other home appliances.  The TV industry has done a wonderful job of reducing energy consumption of the flat panel.  


The biggest energy hog in my home is my electric dryer.  It is connected to a 30 amp, 240 volt circuit and draws about 3.0 kW every hour it operates.  Not only that the stupid thing draws air from WITHIN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple of minor comments since I love talking about energy consumption.  You are correct that air conditioning units are a big energy consumer.  For example, I have a 3 1/2 ton Lennox heat pump on my home and it uses 3.51 kW per hour.  I also have two LCD TV&#8217;s that use almost nothing when compared to many other home appliances.  The TV industry has done a wonderful job of reducing energy consumption of the flat panel.  </p>
<p>The biggest energy hog in my home is my electric dryer.  It is connected to a 30 amp, 240 volt circuit and draws about 3.0 kW every hour it operates.  Not only that the stupid thing draws air from WITHIN.</p>
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		<title>By: piwifaquzehy</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[piwifaquzehy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2013 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[мy coυѕιɴ ιѕ мαĸιɴɢ $51/нoυr oɴlιɴe. υɴeмployed ғor α coυple oғ yeαrѕ αɴd prevιoυѕ yeαr ѕнe ɢoт α $1З619cнecĸ wιтн oɴlιɴe joв ғor α coυple oғ dαyѕ. ѕee мore αт...&#173; &#173;ViewMore------------------------------------------&amp;#46qr&amp;#46net/kkEj







Wait wait wait.  There is some 
law (LOL) limiting the size of solar on your property?  And its based on
 need?  Never knew this and as if I cared.  When I reach up to 5KW I 
become a bad evil dirty low life scum criminal because 5KW is about what
 I use with a 2 ton HVAC system?  Now if I increase the tonnage of my AC
 system will I morph back into a productive member of society?  How 
about added a few 50 inch tvs in the mix just for good measure to keep 
me out of the slave wage correctional system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>мy coυѕιɴ ιѕ мαĸιɴɢ $51/нoυr oɴlιɴe. υɴeмployed ғor α coυple oғ yeαrѕ αɴd prevιoυѕ yeαr ѕнe ɢoт α $1З619cнecĸ wιтн oɴlιɴe joв ғor α coυple oғ dαyѕ. ѕee мore αт&#8230;&shy; &shy;ViewMore&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&amp;#46qr&amp;#46net/kkEj</p>
<p>Wait wait wait.  There is some<br />
law (LOL) limiting the size of solar on your property?  And its based on<br />
 need?  Never knew this and as if I cared.  When I reach up to 5KW I<br />
become a bad evil dirty low life scum criminal because 5KW is about what<br />
 I use with a 2 ton HVAC system?  Now if I increase the tonnage of my AC<br />
 system will I morph back into a productive member of society?  How<br />
about added a few 50 inch tvs in the mix just for good measure to keep<br />
me out of the slave wage correctional system.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeple</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/07/07/petition-let-californians-oversize-their-solar-power-systems/#comment-170066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steeple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2013 03:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[25 cts? Why not 50 or 75? Since none of them are based on market, just pick any number. And enough with the Hawaii argument since they have no natural gas.

If you want to be taken seriously, propose the buy back occur at the marginal market price averaged over time. Otherwise, you just look like someone asking for another handout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25 cts? Why not 50 or 75? Since none of them are based on market, just pick any number. And enough with the Hawaii argument since they have no natural gas.</p>
<p>If you want to be taken seriously, propose the buy back occur at the marginal market price averaged over time. Otherwise, you just look like someone asking for another handout.</p>
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