Comments on: More EV Charging Stations Than People In The US

By: Kompulsa (Nicholas)

Kompulsa (Nicholas) — Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:43:00 +0000

Thank you.

By: agelbert

agelbert — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:20:00 +0000

Glad to be of service. :>)

By: Zachary Shahan

Zachary Shahan — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 07:56:00 +0000

You may have been one of the people who stimulated this reposting. Nudges in the comments do make a difference.

By: Zachary Shahan

Zachary Shahan — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 07:56:00 +0000

I just need to remember to repost more of them!

By: Zachary Shahan

Zachary Shahan — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 07:55:00 +0000

Anothercoilgun seems to cover most of the responses I would have given.

As far as the ads, our ads come through Google. I need a specific link to an ad in order to block it. I haven’t seen any of those ads, but if you are seeing them, please pass along the links so we can ban away!

By: agelbert

agelbert — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 23:48:00 +0000

Exactly. A top quality extension cord is all you need. I have mentioned the fact that every home is a potential EV charging station before on this forum.
And any electrician worth his salt can rig up a 240v setup for you.

By: Dimitar Mirchev

Dimitar Mirchev — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 05:52:00 +0000

Every street light can be convetet into EV charging station!

Imagine that

By: Anothercoilgun

Anothercoilgun — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:33:00 +0000

1. Its a quote. Source of the quote is provided.

2. “Into but at 8-10 amps” expresses limitation as opposed to a dedicated higher power charging station. “Into at 8-10 amps” would not convey common mains outlets as an alternative to dedicated stations.

3. You did not include a closing parentheses. (I forbear…

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:17:00 +0000

I agree, we’re likely to see a lot of wireless charging in the future. There is a small (<10%) efficiency loss but as long as people are willing to pay a bit more for the convenience and as long as the input electricity is green I don't see a problem.

Electricity is greener today that it was in the past. And it will be greener in the future than it is today. It's a process.

By: Pieter Siegers

Pieter Siegers — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:09:00 +0000

My thought is wireless charging which would help solve much of the problems related to plug-in charger methods, adding a lot of good value to owning one. It’s going to be the next logical step.
For the moment, being able to stop anywhere to charge your car is obviously great, but I wonder how green the electricity at these points is nowadays.

By: Brian_Henderson

Brian_Henderson — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:59:00 +0000

Location of plug outlets is an important factor; just because there are 475 million 110V plugs they are not all great choices. If the plug is in-doors and needs an extension cord, there will be a voltage drop, related to the light of the cord. Not all 110V plugs instalations have GFI, which is a great safety feature should cord, or plug be exposed to elements. (Newer wiring should have CFI integrated already)

If enough time (hours) are available, or just a partial capacity charge is required then slower (& cheaper) 110V power is an ideal solution. As prices of EV batteries drop over the next few years then 110V (1650 kW/h) will become less useful except for extreme emergencies as pack capacities increase. e.g. Tesla Model S (200-300 mile range) will take over 50 hours to charge on 110V plug. Chances are good that 120-200 mile range will be common for EVs in next five years! (65-80 mies is common range for Fit EV, Leaf, & 500e today)

By: Robert Wright

Robert Wright — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 10:28:00 +0000

You cannot plug your simple 110/120 volt Electric Vehicle charging cord into any common household receptacle; the receptacle used for charging your EV must be on a “dedicated circuit”. Every EV owner will need to ensure they have a dedicated circuit installed to support EV Charging; failure to do so may cause serious damage to the electrical circuit, electrical service, or cause a house fire. Electric Vehicle Charging Safety is a very serious matter and public safety should have been on the forefront of the Electric Vehicle Program; but unfortunately, electric vehicle charging safety has been widely overlooked by major stakeholders such as the U.S Department of Energy and manufacturers of electric vehicle support equipment (charging stations). Greenstar Concepts, LLC has been the voice of “safety” in this industry for several years now; we support the Electric Vehicle industry and believe the Electric Vehicle Program is vital to a cleaner environment. We just believe we can achieve our electric drive goals in a safer and much much more responsible manner!

By: Ronald Brakels

Ronald Brakels — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 23:20:00 +0000

In Europe or Australia it should take about nine hours or less to fully charge a Nissian Leaf sized battery from zero kilometers range to full charge from a perfectly ordinary power socket. So as long as the car can accept European standard current, there is even less of a need for people in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, etc. to install special chargers at home.

By: patb2009

patb2009 — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 21:48:00 +0000

up north most public parking lots have a 110 outlet, so you can plug in a block heater.

By: Jim Nelson

Jim Nelson — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 21:12:00 +0000

“you can plug into but at 8-10 Amps”

Did you perhaps mean “you can plug into at 8-10 amps”? (note both changes)

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By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 19:02:00 +0000

A higher voltage (240 vac) smart outlet would shorten the hours and allow the grid to determine actual time of charging. That would be very valuable to grid operators.

Charging could be spread out across the night or concentrated during the hours in which there is the best supply/demand ratio.

Going to be really windy after 1AM? Charge all then.

By: Zachary Shahan

Zachary Shahan — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:54:00 +0000

For the average person, nothing more is needed than what they have right now. Get home, plug in, and that’s enough.

By: Zachary Shahan

Zachary Shahan — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:53:00 +0000

Believe me, I felt embarrassed to admit it, but I thought the same for a long time. The companies marketing EVs really do a *horrible* job marketing the convenience and affordability of fueling an EV. Get home, plug into the wall, and you’re done….

By: Zachary Shahan

Zachary Shahan — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:50:00 +0000

The point about apts/condos is simply that many don’t have access to an outlet by default. The focus here was what’s in place right now.

By: Others

Others — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:45:00 +0000

I fully support your idea. In fact only the Level-2 charger will cost around $2,000 to buy and install, for the regular 120 Volt, it may be just few $100.