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	<title>Comments on: 10 Key Clean Energy Statements From Obama&#8217;s Climate Speech</title>
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		<title>By: sheeplemakemesick</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-173165</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sheeplemakemesick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are truly pathetic to delete a comment that you don&#039;t agree with.  Way to &quot;defend&quot; your comment.  Commie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are truly pathetic to delete a comment that you don&#8217;t agree with.  Way to &#8220;defend&#8221; your comment.  Commie</p>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-173005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[suz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He speaks the truth Bob. Check out the web your the one getting flawed information . You must be on Obama&#039;s payroll]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He speaks the truth Bob. Check out the web your the one getting flawed information . You must be on Obama&#8217;s payroll</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-173001</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember, the numbers didn&#039;t support global warming which was made up from day one to make people money from the fear factor.  They now call it Climate Change.  Because the climate is always changing according to the sun activity and the effects it has on the earth not to mention the earths own shifting of plates and activity they can surely prove climate change.  This is nothing more then the historic and continuing norm of our planet and it&#039;s weather.  Primary purpose of the Climate change culture, to take money out of various countries and shift it around to others.  It is and always has been about the almighty dollar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, the numbers didn&#8217;t support global warming which was made up from day one to make people money from the fear factor.  They now call it Climate Change.  Because the climate is always changing according to the sun activity and the effects it has on the earth not to mention the earths own shifting of plates and activity they can surely prove climate change.  This is nothing more then the historic and continuing norm of our planet and it&#8217;s weather.  Primary purpose of the Climate change culture, to take money out of various countries and shift it around to others.  It is and always has been about the almighty dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like other emerging technologies, it takes a while to bring prices down to where the new technology can compete with the old.


Wind is already our second cheapest way to bring new capacity on line and on the way to being the cheapest.  Onshore wind will not need assistance much longer.


Solar prices are dropping very rapidly.  That would not have happened with out government assistance.  Solar in on track to be cheaper than natural gas in the next few years.  It is already cheaper than gas peaker.


If you&#039;re worried about your tax dollars being spent somewhere than isn&#039;t benefiting you then look to coal, oil and nuclear.  We&#039;re throwing hundreds of billions of tax dollars into those rat holes and their prices keep rising.


Renewable/green energy has received only a tiny portion of what fossil fuel and nuclear have received and the cost of green energy keeps dropping.


Supporting green energy is a wise use of our tax dollars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like other emerging technologies, it takes a while to bring prices down to where the new technology can compete with the old.</p>
<p>Wind is already our second cheapest way to bring new capacity on line and on the way to being the cheapest.  Onshore wind will not need assistance much longer.</p>
<p>Solar prices are dropping very rapidly.  That would not have happened with out government assistance.  Solar in on track to be cheaper than natural gas in the next few years.  It is already cheaper than gas peaker.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re worried about your tax dollars being spent somewhere than isn&#8217;t benefiting you then look to coal, oil and nuclear.  We&#8217;re throwing hundreds of billions of tax dollars into those rat holes and their prices keep rising.</p>
<p>Renewable/green energy has received only a tiny portion of what fossil fuel and nuclear have received and the cost of green energy keeps dropping.</p>
<p>Supporting green energy is a wise use of our tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Studies have shown that were an EV charged with 100% coal produced electricity it would result in slightly more CO2 than a gasmobile.

But since none of our grids are 100% coal EVs are cleaner than gasmobiles.  Even in the states that burn the highest amounts of coal EVs are cleaner than burning gas.

With every wind turbine and solar panel we connect to the grid EVs get cleaner.

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Better to think of battery life in terms of miles rather than years.  Our longest &quot;in service&quot; batteries are in the Tesla Roadster and they are doing well at 100,000 miles.

For the average 13,000 miles per year US driver that would be about 8 years.   And &quot;used up&quot; for an EV battery really means that range has dropped to 80% of when the battery was new.  

When lithium batteries hit 80% they tend to lose further capacity slowly.  Someone who buys an 80 mile range EV and has a 40 mile or less daily driving routine may never need to replace their battery.

BYD&#039;s lithium iron phosphate batteries are going strong at 150,000 miles.   And that&#039;s with close to 100% rapid charging.  They are being used in taxis that stay on the road 24 hours a day.

Lithium batteries are recyclable and Toyota already has recycling in place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studies have shown that were an EV charged with 100% coal produced electricity it would result in slightly more CO2 than a gasmobile.</p>
<p>But since none of our grids are 100% coal EVs are cleaner than gasmobiles.  Even in the states that burn the highest amounts of coal EVs are cleaner than burning gas.</p>
<p>With every wind turbine and solar panel we connect to the grid EVs get cleaner.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Better to think of battery life in terms of miles rather than years.  Our longest &#8220;in service&#8221; batteries are in the Tesla Roadster and they are doing well at 100,000 miles.</p>
<p>For the average 13,000 miles per year US driver that would be about 8 years.   And &#8220;used up&#8221; for an EV battery really means that range has dropped to 80% of when the battery was new.  </p>
<p>When lithium batteries hit 80% they tend to lose further capacity slowly.  Someone who buys an 80 mile range EV and has a 40 mile or less daily driving routine may never need to replace their battery.</p>
<p>BYD&#8217;s lithium iron phosphate batteries are going strong at 150,000 miles.   And that&#8217;s with close to 100% rapid charging.  They are being used in taxis that stay on the road 24 hours a day.</p>
<p>Lithium batteries are recyclable and Toyota already has recycling in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172811</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I select what I feel to be the most reliable sources of information as I form my opinions.



If you have information that you feel is more reliable then present it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I select what I feel to be the most reliable sources of information as I form my opinions.</p>
<p>If you have information that you feel is more reliable then present it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172810</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;footprint&quot; of wind is quite small compared to that of coal and nuclear.


There&#039;s no appreciable environmental damage created by wind turbines.  There are minor changes in wind speed and ground moisture in the immediate vicinity of the turbine but it is extremely minor compared to the damage caused by coal, coal mining, and uranium extraction.


Per MWh of electricity produced bird kills are very much higher for coal and nuclear than for wind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;footprint&#8221; of wind is quite small compared to that of coal and nuclear.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no appreciable environmental damage created by wind turbines.  There are minor changes in wind speed and ground moisture in the immediate vicinity of the turbine but it is extremely minor compared to the damage caused by coal, coal mining, and uranium extraction.</p>
<p>Per MWh of electricity produced bird kills are very much higher for coal and nuclear than for wind.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, a small number of papers were written that predicted a cooling planet.  The large majority predicted a warming planet.


It is the case that papers are published frequently which are flawed.  



It is also the case that  sometimes a scientist will put the known facts together in a way that makes a prediction and then further research will show that their prediction is wrong.


If you go back through the history of any scientific topic you will find faulty papers.  That&#039;s just how science works, people put out their ideas and then other scientists confirm or disprove those ideas.


Science is self-correcting which is why it emerged as the dominate branch of philosophy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a small number of papers were written that predicted a cooling planet.  The large majority predicted a warming planet.</p>
<p>It is the case that papers are published frequently which are flawed.  </p>
<p>It is also the case that  sometimes a scientist will put the known facts together in a way that makes a prediction and then further research will show that their prediction is wrong.</p>
<p>If you go back through the history of any scientific topic you will find faulty papers.  That&#8217;s just how science works, people put out their ideas and then other scientists confirm or disprove those ideas.</p>
<p>Science is self-correcting which is why it emerged as the dominate branch of philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joshua, I have no idea who told you that but it is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.


China is capping their coal use starting in 2015 at 2011 levels.  That means that starting in 2015 they will burn 6% less coal than they did in 2012.  China&#039;s coal acceleration is over.  Any coal plants they are building now are replacing inefficient ones so that they can get more electricity out of the coal they do burn.


Japan increased their level of coal burning following Fukushima which caused them to shut all their nuclear plants.


Japan is considering building more coal plants.  That decision has not been made.  At the same time Japan is increasing solar and wind installations.  Japan has no desire to increase their CO2 emissions. I expect few, if any, coal plants are actually built.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, I have no idea who told you that but it is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.</p>
<p>China is capping their coal use starting in 2015 at 2011 levels.  That means that starting in 2015 they will burn 6% less coal than they did in 2012.  China&#8217;s coal acceleration is over.  Any coal plants they are building now are replacing inefficient ones so that they can get more electricity out of the coal they do burn.</p>
<p>Japan increased their level of coal burning following Fukushima which caused them to shut all their nuclear plants.</p>
<p>Japan is considering building more coal plants.  That decision has not been made.  At the same time Japan is increasing solar and wind installations.  Japan has no desire to increase their CO2 emissions. I expect few, if any, coal plants are actually built.</p>
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		<title>By: OutWest01503</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OutWest01503]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of making broad, unsupported claims, please list those greedy Republicans and what they&#039;ve done to make them greedy.   And while you&#039;re at it, why do you list all the virtuous democratic supporting rich guys who work for AIG, Bears Stearn, and the other wall street firms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of making broad, unsupported claims, please list those greedy Republicans and what they&#8217;ve done to make them greedy.   And while you&#8217;re at it, why do you list all the virtuous democratic supporting rich guys who work for AIG, Bears Stearn, and the other wall street firms.</p>
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		<title>By: OutWest01503</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OutWest01503]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have nothing against the &quot;free&quot; market - but the &quot;free&quot; market isn&#039;t free when US Taxpayers make a $529 million loan guarantee to the company.  The US government should be investing out tax dollars in the US.  If someone wants to build cars Finland - more power to them.  Maybe the Finnish government will guarantee their loan, or maybe they could do it the old-fashioned way  - without government help!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing against the &#8220;free&#8221; market &#8211; but the &#8220;free&#8221; market isn&#8217;t free when US Taxpayers make a $529 million loan guarantee to the company.  The US government should be investing out tax dollars in the US.  If someone wants to build cars Finland &#8211; more power to them.  Maybe the Finnish government will guarantee their loan, or maybe they could do it the old-fashioned way  &#8211; without government help!</p>
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		<title>By: Bozo</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bozo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Green energy is so great why do you need the govt to pay for it, why not pay for it with all your cost savings.  Its not Green Energy, its Greed Energy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Green energy is so great why do you need the govt to pay for it, why not pay for it with all your cost savings.  Its not Green Energy, its Greed Energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Sennett</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Sennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with EV&#039;s is that power has to be generated by something... Right now that something is a power plant that is producing more CO per Kwh than a traditional gas vehicle would be... I am all about EV&#039;s and see a great possibility for their future, but don&#039;t kid yourself into thinking it is any healthier for the environment. The deep cell batteries have to be replaced every Five years (?) and are considered hazardous waste with only a few parts within those cells fully recyclable...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with EV&#8217;s is that power has to be generated by something&#8230; Right now that something is a power plant that is producing more CO per Kwh than a traditional gas vehicle would be&#8230; I am all about EV&#8217;s and see a great possibility for their future, but don&#8217;t kid yourself into thinking it is any healthier for the environment. The deep cell batteries have to be replaced every Five years (?) and are considered hazardous waste with only a few parts within those cells fully recyclable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Sennett</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Sennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, you get to cherry pick your sources? Science and editors get to do that? Oh, wait, their opinions are (Assumidly) different than yous, so you get to ignore any evidence that they might possess to back up their opinions yet get to critisize those that haven&#039;t read what you have to offer... great... sounds intelligent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you get to cherry pick your sources? Science and editors get to do that? Oh, wait, their opinions are (Assumidly) different than yous, so you get to ignore any evidence that they might possess to back up their opinions yet get to critisize those that haven&#8217;t read what you have to offer&#8230; great&#8230; sounds intelligent.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Sennett</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Sennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are using environmental degridation for Coal and Nuclear, what about the damage done by installing acres of wind turbines and solar panels...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are using environmental degridation for Coal and Nuclear, what about the damage done by installing acres of wind turbines and solar panels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Sennett</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Sennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...  But scientists did predict a frozen planet... they were wrong, but they did...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;  But scientists did predict a frozen planet&#8230; they were wrong, but they did&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Sennett</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Sennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 07:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob... as a percentage of energy created by wind power (Remember percentage of power created, not total numbers) Wind turbines are deadlier than coal... China and Japan are accelerating their Solar and Wind resources, but they are accelerating their fossil fuels at about ten times the rate, so for every solar panel or windmill built, they are investing in oil/coal and natural gas exploration and exploitation at ten times the amount.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob&#8230; as a percentage of energy created by wind power (Remember percentage of power created, not total numbers) Wind turbines are deadlier than coal&#8230; China and Japan are accelerating their Solar and Wind resources, but they are accelerating their fossil fuels at about ten times the rate, so for every solar panel or windmill built, they are investing in oil/coal and natural gas exploration and exploitation at ten times the amount.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172754</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what do you have against the free market?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what do you have against the free market?</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernPatriot55</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SouthernPatriot55]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tsk tsk, so much for tolerance!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsk tsk, so much for tolerance!</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernPatriot55</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/26/10-key-clean-energy-statements-from-obamas-climate-speech/#comment-172751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SouthernPatriot55]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too BAD one it killed was a BALD EAGLE. Of course this administration did not go after the company.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too BAD one it killed was a BALD EAGLE. Of course this administration did not go after the company.</p>
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