200 mile range, affordable and the world will change.

I can understand that in Germany it is difficult to admit that the only next step is breaking or fusioning the nuclear bondage. There we are talking a 1000 or 100 000 x possability for development over the current situation.

I can only calm myself with the fact that Germans will learn this thing the hard way and that the names of the German “greens” have been documented by their presiding with their “renewable” energy hoaxes.

I’m not sure about EOL being extended for many cars. I suspect it would depend on how well the car was maintained. Many bodies and interiors are simply ‘used up’.

My brother in law drove his Volvo for 250,000 miles. He was very good about maintenance. But by the end it wasn’t a very enjoyable car to drive. I put 300,000 on my first pickup. There wasn’t a lot left at the end.

I can see a portion of ~15 year old cars being sold to a less affluent part of the world where there could be a thriving ‘spruce up’ business that would make decent appearing EVs available for attractive prices. One could purchase a newly painted and reupholstered interior with a lot of driving life.

Perhaps the same sort of process would happen in developed countries creating a supply of dependable cars for people who need to save money.

There’s another route in which we return to the ‘body on frame’ design. A corrosion-resistant frame on which the battery pack, motor and running gear are mounted. Then a body/interior that attaches on top.

At ~150,000 miles one could buy a new body and run the frame to 300,000.

Another thought; life of the car. I think nowadays EOL of cars is determined by the engine, transmission, etc., not by the bodywork. Assuming that the mechanical parts of an EV have a much longer life than their ICE equivalents (correct?), combine that with a battery good for 27 years then we really are talking destructive technology here (for the car industry).

We’ll have a battery that makes financial sense. We would need some sort of creative financial model which would keep initial vehicle purchase price low rather than make people purchase the residual value when they buy the car.

A simple model would be a battery lease with the leasing company selling the battery on for grid use when the car was sent to the crusher. Perhaps one could purchase a $20k “EV Camry” for $10k and make $25/month lease payments on the battery for the life of the car.

Energy Expert Predicts Solar Could Upend Major Utility in California on Price http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/blog/post/2013/05/energy-expert-predicts-solar-could-upend-major-utility-in-california-on-price

With superior storage, Solar (of all flavors) would help stamp out the big Utilities that are holding us in Energy Slavery !

Salute to Germany, the World needs all the storage it can get!

Most likely bulky long-life batteries like these would remain on the road only for the life of the original vehicle. After that they wouldn’t be moved to another vehicle, but put into grid backup service.

(I was illustrating what 10,000 cycles means in terms of battery life.)

Or imagine Jim Kirk’s step-dad’s classic Tesla Model S5 WITH THE SAME 21st CENTURY BATTERY PACK. :-0

(Or maybe they got it from the Egyptians.)

By the flood of US & Asian research news one would think that nothing happens in Europe.