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	<title>Comments on: Australia Approaches 22% Renewables By 2020, 51% by 2050</title>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-165568</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 23:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See right through you, self-justification for payments, it’s not about climate change is not about reducing CO2 levels. It’s about the FIT payments; otherwise you would not have done it. 
All around the world it was geared up to make money, you invest money in a car and don’t expect the return from it, so why is it different from grid solar, human greed at its worst.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See right through you, self-justification for payments, it’s not about climate change is not about reducing CO2 levels. It’s about the FIT payments; otherwise you would not have done it.<br />
All around the world it was geared up to make money, you invest money in a car and don’t expect the return from it, so why is it different from grid solar, human greed at its worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-165567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points Mark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one suggests that solar power will run New York or any other large grid.  However it is quite clear that a combination of wind, solar, hydro and other renewables along with storage can run our grids 24/365.

Click on the &quot;100% Renewable&quot; link on the right hand side of the page and read up.
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Nuclear power is not cheaper.  One cannot use prices from paid off reactors to establish prices of reactors yet to be built.  The cheapest estimates for new nuclear run $0.12/kWh.  Wind and solar are already cheaper than that.  we can store off-peak wind for about that price.
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Germany is net seller of electricity.  They sell more than they purchase.  And they sell for a higher price per kWh than they pay to buy power back.

In 2012 Germany exported 66.6 TWh of electricity, earning 3.7 billion euros or 5.6 cents/kWh.

In 2012 Germany imported 43.8 TWh of electricity, paying 2.3 billion euros or 5.25 cents/kWh.

http://www.renewablesinternational.net/german-power-exports-more-valuable-than-imports/150/537/61663/

Beginning in 2008 Germany began exporting significantly more electricity than they imported.  In 2009 through 2011 Germany exported about 32% more electricity than they imported.  In 2012 they exported 77% more than they imported.



In 2012 Germany sold 63% more electricity to France than they bought from France.


France is having to import power when heat waves happen.  They are having to shut down reactors because they can&#039;t cool them down.  France has started investing serious money into solar and offshore wind and plans on reducing the number of reactors it operates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one suggests that solar power will run New York or any other large grid.  However it is quite clear that a combination of wind, solar, hydro and other renewables along with storage can run our grids 24/365.</p>
<p>Click on the &#8220;100% Renewable&#8221; link on the right hand side of the page and read up.<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>Nuclear power is not cheaper.  One cannot use prices from paid off reactors to establish prices of reactors yet to be built.  The cheapest estimates for new nuclear run $0.12/kWh.  Wind and solar are already cheaper than that.  we can store off-peak wind for about that price.<br />
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<p>Germany is net seller of electricity.  They sell more than they purchase.  And they sell for a higher price per kWh than they pay to buy power back.</p>
<p>In 2012 Germany exported 66.6 TWh of electricity, earning 3.7 billion euros or 5.6 cents/kWh.</p>
<p>In 2012 Germany imported 43.8 TWh of electricity, paying 2.3 billion euros or 5.25 cents/kWh.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.renewablesinternational.net/german-power-exports-more-valuable-than-imports/150/537/61663/" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewablesinternational.net/german-power-exports-more-valuable-than-imports/150/537/61663/</a></p>
<p>Beginning in 2008 Germany began exporting significantly more electricity than they imported.  In 2009 through 2011 Germany exported about 32% more electricity than they imported.  In 2012 they exported 77% more than they imported.</p>
<p>In 2012 Germany sold 63% more electricity to France than they bought from France.</p>
<p>France is having to import power when heat waves happen.  They are having to shut down reactors because they can&#8217;t cool them down.  France has started investing serious money into solar and offshore wind and plans on reducing the number of reactors it operates.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why you need solar power if you have Nuclear power as you say low carbon foot print. (But big radiation footprint) Solar power will never run the city of New York or the US. Nuclear power is much cheap to run base load 24/7, provide low cost affordable power to the US. Just like Germany is buying power from France and other nations. Why don’t you place order to France for new state of the ark Nuclear power generators now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why you need solar power if you have Nuclear power as you say low carbon foot print. (But big radiation footprint) Solar power will never run the city of New York or the US. Nuclear power is much cheap to run base load 24/7, provide low cost affordable power to the US. Just like Germany is buying power from France and other nations. Why don’t you place order to France for new state of the ark Nuclear power generators now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164890</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2013 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.  Wrong.  We now have enough solar on the grid that we are producing more electricity from solar than we are using to manufacture panels.


2.  Wrong.  Solar, wind and nuclear have significantly lower lifetime carbon footprints than fossil fuels.


3. Wrong.


4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 - all wrong.


These are claims you made.  It is up to you to prove your statements.  It is not my job to do your work for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Wrong.  We now have enough solar on the grid that we are producing more electricity from solar than we are using to manufacture panels.</p>
<p>2.  Wrong.  Solar, wind and nuclear have significantly lower lifetime carbon footprints than fossil fuels.</p>
<p>3. Wrong.</p>
<p>4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 &#8211; all wrong.</p>
<p>These are claims you made.  It is up to you to prove your statements.  It is not my job to do your work for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2013 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes that would be your excuse known what you said was a load of rubbish. 
You couldn’t even provide a link to back your lies up. 
1 solar power removes coal from the ground.
2 solar powers is carbon dioxide intensive 
3 solar power loads supply 
4 solar power make others pay 
5 non solar house are more environmentally friendly than solar users.
6 solar power needs to make money out of others 
7 solar power needs government grants 
8 solar power increases power cost up (not down) (stop lying).
9 solar power has not reduces carbon emission
10 solar power didn’t lower the world’s carbon dioxide emissions. 

I Challenge all your claims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that would be your excuse known what you said was a load of rubbish.<br />
You couldn’t even provide a link to back your lies up.<br />
1 solar power removes coal from the ground.<br />
2 solar powers is carbon dioxide intensive<br />
3 solar power loads supply<br />
4 solar power make others pay<br />
5 non solar house are more environmentally friendly than solar users.<br />
6 solar power needs to make money out of others<br />
7 solar power needs government grants<br />
8 solar power increases power cost up (not down) (stop lying).<br />
9 solar power has not reduces carbon emission<br />
10 solar power didn’t lower the world’s carbon dioxide emissions. </p>
<p>I Challenge all your claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2013 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martin, that&#039;s so poorly written that I have difficulty understanding what you are asking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, that&#8217;s so poorly written that I have difficulty understanding what you are asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don’t understand what you are talking about, you said solar power lowers loading. How does that work reduces reliance’s given solar powered houses are on the same network as those that have reduce carbon foot print (without solar power) to the same level or if not less than solar home. Solar power houses have installed big AC which cause loading in excess of the power they generate. Could you give a link on this, how solar power house left or removed coal, on or off conveyor belt from the coal pits which is use to constantly backing up energy solar powered houses, based on carbon dioxide emission intensive. 
With electric cars you cannot displace the required energy to move that car electric motor just with solar panels it will not work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t understand what you are talking about, you said solar power lowers loading. How does that work reduces reliance’s given solar powered houses are on the same network as those that have reduce carbon foot print (without solar power) to the same level or if not less than solar home. Solar power houses have installed big AC which cause loading in excess of the power they generate. Could you give a link on this, how solar power house left or removed coal, on or off conveyor belt from the coal pits which is use to constantly backing up energy solar powered houses, based on carbon dioxide emission intensive.<br />
With electric cars you cannot displace the required energy to move that car electric motor just with solar panels it will not work.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164726</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark stated that he was off the grid and using solar.

As far as I can tell Mark was right about nothing.

Solar does contribute a small amount to the cost of grid power in Australia.  Approximately $32 per year, $0.09 per day.



At the same time solar reduces the cost of power because it displaces more expensive peaking power.  This amount is not reflected in the $32 per year.


We&#039;ve seen that in Germany putting even a modest amount of solar on the grid creates very significant decreases in the wholesale price of electricity.


Before one can say that solar is costing non-solar owners they must also account for the amount that solar is saving those same people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark stated that he was off the grid and using solar.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell Mark was right about nothing.</p>
<p>Solar does contribute a small amount to the cost of grid power in Australia.  Approximately $32 per year, $0.09 per day.</p>
<p>At the same time solar reduces the cost of power because it displaces more expensive peaking power.  This amount is not reflected in the $32 per year.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve seen that in Germany putting even a modest amount of solar on the grid creates very significant decreases in the wholesale price of electricity.</p>
<p>Before one can say that solar is costing non-solar owners they must also account for the amount that solar is saving those same people.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sound like he was right, given solar power did cost others. What he stated sound like its going to happen, extra charges applied on grid solar power?  

Dose Mark have solar power?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound like he was right, given solar power did cost others. What he stated sound like its going to happen, extra charges applied on grid solar power?  </p>
<p>Dose Mark have solar power?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark had a history here of posting things which were not true.  And when the facts were pointed out to him he persisted in posting those incorrect statements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark had a history here of posting things which were not true.  And when the facts were pointed out to him he persisted in posting those incorrect statements.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 08:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob in your own dilemma not knowing the true circumstances within Australia, going as far to say grid solar power cost those without solar “little to nothing,” Obviously Mark W was right Bob and you couldn’t bear what he said was true. 

Even before the media reports were released, Mark informed you before time, no doubt knows what he’s talking about.

Obviously you don’t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob in your own dilemma not knowing the true circumstances within Australia, going as far to say grid solar power cost those without solar “little to nothing,” Obviously Mark W was right Bob and you couldn’t bear what he said was true. </p>
<p>Even before the media reports were released, Mark informed you before time, no doubt knows what he’s talking about.</p>
<p>Obviously you don’t.</p>
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		<title>By: Arndt Ritter</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arndt Ritter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2013 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with what you say, except to say that goverment policy seems to have an effect on utility scale generation and that the removal of carbon pricing and the continuing direct subsidisation of coal generators will slow the adoption of utility scale generators. Of course, as you say, renewables in Australia are inevitable because of the vast potential and the gorwing market forces in spite of government policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you say, except to say that goverment policy seems to have an effect on utility scale generation and that the removal of carbon pricing and the continuing direct subsidisation of coal generators will slow the adoption of utility scale generators. Of course, as you say, renewables in Australia are inevitable because of the vast potential and the gorwing market forces in spite of government policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164402</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2013 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know anything about Campbell Newman.  He could be like some of our politicians who are willing to lie for the fossil fuel industry.  He could a basically honest person who is misinformed.

Here&#039;s some bits from your link...

&quot; &#039;mind-blowing, excessive&#039; $268 increase&quot;

&quot;costly state-based solar feed-in tariff&quot;

&quot;He says the 190,000 homes that have solar panels are getting a &#039;far too lucrative deal&#039; when paid for surplus energy they export to the grid.&quot;

The Energy Supply Association of Australia (ESSA)  is the peak industry body representing the stationary energy sector in Australia – an industry with more than $120 billion in generation, transmission and distribution assets. ESSA members include government owned corporations and private companies who retail, generate or supply electricity and natural gas to consumers in Australia.

The ESSA is the traditional electricity industry mouthpiece.

The ESAA estimated the current total of “avoided” costs for solar at $340 million.  Around $30 per household of the cost increase is due to the solar subsidy.

The ESAA estimates that increased use of  air conditioning  is costing customers $330 per household per year.  Eleven times more than what the solar subsidy is costing.  $27.50 per month for AC, $2.50 for solar.

People adding AC are increasing load on the grid and make it necessary to increase grid carrying capacity.

Obviously if there wasn&#039;t rooftop solar on the grid then the grid would have to be strengthened even more and the cost to customers would be even higher.

So, the solar subsidy is costing people who don&#039;t own solar little to nothing.  It might even be saving them money.  And it is cutting down the amount of CO2 that is released which will help slow global warming and help hold down the increase in AC electricity usage.

Then, the utility companies, are they being hurt?  The utility companies are taking electricity from solar owners and selling it on to other customers for four to five times what they pay for it.



People should take a good look at Newman.  Take it from our experience with George Bush, having a leader who is ignorant and willing to lie can create a world of trouble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about Campbell Newman.  He could be like some of our politicians who are willing to lie for the fossil fuel industry.  He could a basically honest person who is misinformed.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some bits from your link&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8221; &#8216;mind-blowing, excessive&#8217; $268 increase&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;costly state-based solar feed-in tariff&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;He says the 190,000 homes that have solar panels are getting a &#8216;far too lucrative deal&#8217; when paid for surplus energy they export to the grid.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Energy Supply Association of Australia (ESSA)  is the peak industry body representing the stationary energy sector in Australia – an industry with more than $120 billion in generation, transmission and distribution assets. ESSA members include government owned corporations and private companies who retail, generate or supply electricity and natural gas to consumers in Australia.</p>
<p>The ESSA is the traditional electricity industry mouthpiece.</p>
<p>The ESAA estimated the current total of “avoided” costs for solar at $340 million.  Around $30 per household of the cost increase is due to the solar subsidy.</p>
<p>The ESAA estimates that increased use of  air conditioning  is costing customers $330 per household per year.  Eleven times more than what the solar subsidy is costing.  $27.50 per month for AC, $2.50 for solar.</p>
<p>People adding AC are increasing load on the grid and make it necessary to increase grid carrying capacity.</p>
<p>Obviously if there wasn&#8217;t rooftop solar on the grid then the grid would have to be strengthened even more and the cost to customers would be even higher.</p>
<p>So, the solar subsidy is costing people who don&#8217;t own solar little to nothing.  It might even be saving them money.  And it is cutting down the amount of CO2 that is released which will help slow global warming and help hold down the increase in AC electricity usage.</p>
<p>Then, the utility companies, are they being hurt?  The utility companies are taking electricity from solar owners and selling it on to other customers for four to five times what they pay for it.</p>
<p>People should take a good look at Newman.  Take it from our experience with George Bush, having a leader who is ignorant and willing to lie can create a world of trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2013 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bob, What do you say about this, grid solar power is to blame.

Newman wants power blame on greens

http://www.skynews.com.au/local/article.aspx?id=876790]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bob, What do you say about this, grid solar power is to blame.</p>
<p>Newman wants power blame on greens</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skynews.com.au/local/article.aspx?id=876790" rel="nofollow">http://www.skynews.com.au/local/article.aspx?id=876790</a></p>
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		<title>By: mds</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2013 06:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With installed residential solar less than half the end-of-grid price of electricity in Australia I don&#039;t see how the conservatives will put the solar genie back in the bottle.  ...and solar prices are still falling...
It&#039;s done in Australia.  Renewable will not be 50% in 2050, they will be much more, particularly solar.  Highest use of electricity for AC in Australia and availability of solar then, plus diurnal regularity, means solar will figure large in the future there.
With several different low-cost storage technologies coming to the market, maybe Australian residents don&#039;t need their grid.
It will be interesting to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With installed residential solar less than half the end-of-grid price of electricity in Australia I don&#8217;t see how the conservatives will put the solar genie back in the bottle.  &#8230;and solar prices are still falling&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s done in Australia.  Renewable will not be 50% in 2050, they will be much more, particularly solar.  Highest use of electricity for AC in Australia and availability of solar then, plus diurnal regularity, means solar will figure large in the future there.<br />
With several different low-cost storage technologies coming to the market, maybe Australian residents don&#8217;t need their grid.<br />
It will be interesting to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164134</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2013 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kathyrn - the best I&#039;ve been able to discover is that your electricity costs are going up because more and more people are adding air conditioning.  That is increasing demand and load on the grid.  Improving the grid to deliver power to people&#039;s new air conditioning is causing  most of increase in your power bill.


The amount you pay for solar supplements is tiny.  


If people weren&#039;t adding solar then the utilities would have to spend even more money to improve the grid because demand would be even higher.


You need to understand that the coal industry is in trouble and they are panicking.  They are seeing their profits being eroded by  solar and wind coming on your grid.  


I wonder who is spreading the misinformation about how solar is to blame for rising electricity prices?  You got a guess?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathyrn &#8211; the best I&#8217;ve been able to discover is that your electricity costs are going up because more and more people are adding air conditioning.  That is increasing demand and load on the grid.  Improving the grid to deliver power to people&#8217;s new air conditioning is causing  most of increase in your power bill.</p>
<p>The amount you pay for solar supplements is tiny.  </p>
<p>If people weren&#8217;t adding solar then the utilities would have to spend even more money to improve the grid because demand would be even higher.</p>
<p>You need to understand that the coal industry is in trouble and they are panicking.  They are seeing their profits being eroded by  solar and wind coming on your grid.  </p>
<p>I wonder who is spreading the misinformation about how solar is to blame for rising electricity prices?  You got a guess?</p>
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		<title>By: Larrabee</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larrabee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2013 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Solar power is grate spend few dollars to install 200 panels @ 300w generating money like no ending, government forked out more than 60% system generating third income over $210 on avg day $1470 wk on house size 3rd of an acre. Ducted air-conditioning, no worries payments cover all expenses, trying to get approval for 200 more panels and make a few more bucks for over seas holidays, tried to max solar income to 152,000 year on the Queensland network opting to maximise profit. No tax on solar power Mark W.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar power is grate spend few dollars to install 200 panels @ 300w generating money like no ending, government forked out more than 60% system generating third income over $210 on avg day $1470 wk on house size 3rd of an acre. Ducted air-conditioning, no worries payments cover all expenses, trying to get approval for 200 more panels and make a few more bucks for over seas holidays, tried to max solar income to 152,000 year on the Queensland network opting to maximise profit. No tax on solar power Mark W.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2013 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was being sarcastic, if your PV produces more than you need, then it goes out on the wire and into the house next to you. So from the power plants stand point you &quot;reduced&quot; their demand also. Yes the grid operator still charges them for the power. But your streets demand is decreased by the total amount you produce even if you don&#039;t use it all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being sarcastic, if your PV produces more than you need, then it goes out on the wire and into the house next to you. So from the power plants stand point you &#8220;reduced&#8221; their demand also. Yes the grid operator still charges them for the power. But your streets demand is decreased by the total amount you produce even if you don&#8217;t use it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathyrn</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/30/australia-approaches-22-renewables-by-2020-51-by-2050/#comment-164128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathyrn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2013 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My electric bill gone up, I don’t have renewable, it’s reported on QLD ABC Radio bills will increase over 91 percent on the daily charges, power usage will go up to 22.5 percent by payments to rooftop solar. My power bill first quarter 90 day came in at 2500 dollars, added on top new charges of 616.5 dollars plus GST 61.65 bring it to 678.15 total new charges is 3178.15  dollar. Electric bills come down due to renewable don&#039;t stack up, pure madness posting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My electric bill gone up, I don’t have renewable, it’s reported on QLD ABC Radio bills will increase over 91 percent on the daily charges, power usage will go up to 22.5 percent by payments to rooftop solar. My power bill first quarter 90 day came in at 2500 dollars, added on top new charges of 616.5 dollars plus GST 61.65 bring it to 678.15 total new charges is 3178.15  dollar. Electric bills come down due to renewable don&#8217;t stack up, pure madness posting.</p>
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