We are installing renewables and cutting back on fossil fuels.

Renewables have extremely small lifetime carbon footprints.

We can install as much renewable generation as we want without creating CO2 problems.

If some people what to use a lot of electricity the most logical solution is to let them. Charge them extra for the extra they consume.

Use that extra revenue to install more renewables.

There is no need to increase rates for “normal” consumers. In fact, renewables should give us cheaper electricity later on.

High users need to pay higher rates.

That extra revenue can be used to install more renewable capacity.

No one is talking about anyone using as much fossil fuel produced electricity as they want. We’re talking about renewable energy – wind, solar, geothermal, hydro, tidal, biomass/gas.

The planet is in no way running out of energy. We won’t have an energy problem for a few billion years.

And at least a billion years before that we will have already been cooked out of existence by our self-destructing sun.

People are conserving without even realizing it. Our appliances and gadgets are getting more and more efficient. Replace your 15-20 year old refrigerator and you’ll get one the same size that uses 2x to 4x less electricity. Replace your burned out incandescent light bulb and your options at the store will use 4x less electricity.

Then, for those few people who never close their refrigerator doors and have 12 big screen TVs going in every room – just charge a lot more for higher electricity use. Tiered rates.

The folks who get their information from Rupert Murdoch (Fox, Wall Street Journal) or Malcolm Forbes’ bad seed are often badly misinformed.

It’s like they’re at 30,000 feet in a 747 and arguing that man will never fly.

Usage will be controlled by rate schedules.

Use a lot – pay a lot.

That extra payment will be used for more solar panels, wind turbines, other renewable generation and storage.

We’re moving to a future where we will all be able to use as much power as we want (as long as we are willing to pay for it). And all that electricity usage will not damage the planet.

(That’s not counting several countries that have 90% – 100% renewable grids due to large amounts of hydro.)

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Please link to some data on your claim about higher electricity usage resulting from grid-connected solar.

I don’t find that credible and need to see some objective proof.

Coal is our most expensive way to generate electricity. While we pay small money at the meter, we pay large money via tax dollar and health insurance premiums.

New coal generation would be very much more expensive than wind, even before we add in the health costs.

You make a common mistake of assuming the variability of wind makes it more expensive to the grid. It doesn’t. The cost of integrating wind into the overall mix is $0.0005/kWh. Almost zero.

The grid has experienced no problems. Integration costs have been extremely low. The wholesale cost of electricity has dropped.

Large-scale investment in wind and solar is as yet to be proven itself it hasn’t got supply storage capability other than those independent off grid systems that are remotely set up around the world.

If you put this into context this is a total failure is does not delivering energy on demand on a 24 hour basis when compared to a remote setup system which does supply 24-hour base load energy to the individual remote off grid set up solar or wind system.

Grid connected solar power system has turned the system upside down the majority of houses are not conserving power but using more energy than previously after subsidies were issued for the solar grid system.

We can’s compare those remote set up systems which are manage their own energy use and compare it with those which are dependent upon the grid connected solar power which are heavily subsidised. Making the comparison that those on grid connected solar systems and not conserving power, are using more energy than before, at the expense of increasing amounts of CO2 emission. While those which have the remote off grid set up system conserve energy, and are CO2 emission neutral.

So why are those people on grid connected solar system using more energy then before? It’s because no law enforcement has been imposed on them to conserve energy, and I think this is something that we have to look at more closely, should they be punished for using power after hours, should they be heavily punished for exceeding energy consumption, in my opinion yes, because we cannot allow people to continue to use solar power as an excuse to use more energy, use more energy at night- day time period then they previously used while increasing there CO2 emission base loading it’s totally wrong .