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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Artificial Leaf&#8221; Makes Clean Energy From Dirty Water</title>
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		<title>By: anderlan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/04/11/artificial-leaf-low-cost-solar-cell-for-hydrogen-fuel-cell/#comment-221098</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anderlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;flat device the size of a playing card, dunk it in a quart of dirty bath water and use it to generate about 100 watts of electricity 24 hours a day&quot;

False.  100% solar efficiency of playing card area is well below 100W and only during daylight.  (Of course I know it would be stored--point is, the stated goal of 100W average over 24 hours (2.4kWh per day) from a playing card cannot physically be reached this side of Mercury&#039;s orbit.  Thanks for playing Sensationalist And/Or Sloppy/Misleading Editorialist Exaggeration!!!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;flat device the size of a playing card, dunk it in a quart of dirty bath water and use it to generate about 100 watts of electricity 24 hours a day&#8221;</p>
<p>False.  100% solar efficiency of playing card area is well below 100W and only during daylight.  (Of course I know it would be stored&#8211;point is, the stated goal of 100W average over 24 hours (2.4kWh per day) from a playing card cannot physically be reached this side of Mercury&#8217;s orbit.  Thanks for playing Sensationalist And/Or Sloppy/Misleading Editorialist Exaggeration!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: New Artificial Leaf Concept for Low Cost Hydrogen Fuel Cells</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Artificial Leaf Concept for Low Cost Hydrogen Fuel Cells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 06:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the tweak also resulted in a self-repairing surface. The roughened surface is fragile and falls apart, but it also goes through a cycle of healing and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the tweak also resulted in a self-repairing surface. The roughened surface is fragile and falls apart, but it also goes through a cycle of healing and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: San Diego Loves Green &#8211; “Artificial Leaf” Makes Clean Energy From Dirty Water</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[San Diego Loves Green &#8211; “Artificial Leaf” Makes Clean Energy From Dirty Water]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 15:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Casey posted the following article to Clean Technica on April 11, 2013; image credit: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Casey posted the following article to Clean Technica on April 11, 2013; image credit: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jos Marten</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/04/11/artificial-leaf-low-cost-solar-cell-for-hydrogen-fuel-cell/#comment-159033</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jos Marten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is important, it&#039;s what nature does .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is important, it&#8217;s what nature does .</p>
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		<title>By: octive9</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/04/11/artificial-leaf-low-cost-solar-cell-for-hydrogen-fuel-cell/#comment-158299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[octive9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What will keep the oil companies from killing it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will keep the oil companies from killing it?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhodomel Meads</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/04/11/artificial-leaf-low-cost-solar-cell-for-hydrogen-fuel-cell/#comment-158184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhodomel Meads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does Nocera&#039;s current system able to power an LED light at night now? How cheap is this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Nocera&#8217;s current system able to power an LED light at night now? How cheap is this?</p>
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		<title>By: addicted4444</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[addicted4444]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Efficiency doesn&#039;t matter to the billions in the world which does not even have electricity in the first place.


Anything which is cheap, and can deliver enough energy to power an LED light through the night will lead to massive quality of life improvements in these cases.


Not every solution has to solve every problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Efficiency doesn&#8217;t matter to the billions in the world which does not even have electricity in the first place.</p>
<p>Anything which is cheap, and can deliver enough energy to power an LED light through the night will lead to massive quality of life improvements in these cases.</p>
<p>Not every solution has to solve every problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhodomel Meads</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/04/11/artificial-leaf-low-cost-solar-cell-for-hydrogen-fuel-cell/#comment-157998</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhodomel Meads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems like Nocera delivers hype much faster than results. When they are not improving efficiency at this point, they have a very long way to go. 



The best and probably the most efficient system out there right now is solar PV storing excess energy into batteries.  The overall efficiency from solar capture to point of use right now is about 18%, and is more than 2,000% better than Nocera&#039;s system at the moment.  So Nocera&#039;s system should be priced at least at 1/20th the current price of the solar PV and battery system for it to be viable. 



I do hope that they quickly deliver and improve the overall efiiciency sooner than later. Meanwhile, advances in cheaper and cheaper storage system is prodding along much faster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like Nocera delivers hype much faster than results. When they are not improving efficiency at this point, they have a very long way to go. </p>
<p>The best and probably the most efficient system out there right now is solar PV storing excess energy into batteries.  The overall efficiency from solar capture to point of use right now is about 18%, and is more than 2,000% better than Nocera&#8217;s system at the moment.  So Nocera&#8217;s system should be priced at least at 1/20th the current price of the solar PV and battery system for it to be viable. </p>
<p>I do hope that they quickly deliver and improve the overall efiiciency sooner than later. Meanwhile, advances in cheaper and cheaper storage system is prodding along much faster.</p>
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