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		<title>By: JonathanMaddox</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-224045</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JonathanMaddox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grafenrheinfeld nuclear power station to be shut down ahead of schedule, to cut losses:
http://www.germanenergyblog.de/?p=15573]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grafenrheinfeld nuclear power station to be shut down ahead of schedule, to cut losses:<br />
<a href="http://www.germanenergyblog.de/?p=15573" rel="nofollow">http://www.germanenergyblog.de/?p=15573</a></p>
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		<title>By: JonathanMaddox</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-224044</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JonathanMaddox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; What happened in 2009

Recession.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; What happened in 2009</p>
<p>Recession.</p>
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		<title>By: JonathanMaddox</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-224043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JonathanMaddox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moreover Australia, unlike Germany, has not built any new coal-fired capacity to replace these closures.  The last coal-fired power station built in this country was completed in 2007, at Kogan Creek in Queensland.  It turns out that much of the additional capacity it provides was not needed (despite strong population growth and economic growth in south-east Queensland), hence the Tarong part-closure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moreover Australia, unlike Germany, has not built any new coal-fired capacity to replace these closures.  The last coal-fired power station built in this country was completed in 2007, at Kogan Creek in Queensland.  It turns out that much of the additional capacity it provides was not needed (despite strong population growth and economic growth in south-east Queensland), hence the Tarong part-closure.</p>
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		<title>By: JonathanMaddox</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-224042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JonathanMaddox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wallerawang shut down last week, another GW.

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/2187882/lights-out-at-wallerawang-power-station/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallerawang shut down last week, another GW.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/2187882/lights-out-at-wallerawang-power-station/" rel="nofollow">http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/2187882/lights-out-at-wallerawang-power-station/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154999</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, tbh, nuclear is just priced out of the market (new nuclear, and even some old nuclear).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, tbh, nuclear is just priced out of the market (new nuclear, and even some old nuclear).</p>
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		<title>By: Otis11</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154667</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Otis11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well to be quite honest I really don&#039;t mind nuclear power - as long as I&#039;m up wind of it and I don&#039;t have to pay for it that is!

If I&#039;m buying the power I&#039;d rather lock in 9c/kwh (What guaranteed 100% wind commitment is going for here in Texas) than 11c/kwh Nuclear (Average price of current FF/Nuclear mix in Texas). Both current rates with 2 year commitment for my local power grid - guess which one we chose?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well to be quite honest I really don&#8217;t mind nuclear power &#8211; as long as I&#8217;m up wind of it and I don&#8217;t have to pay for it that is!</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m buying the power I&#8217;d rather lock in 9c/kwh (What guaranteed 100% wind commitment is going for here in Texas) than 11c/kwh Nuclear (Average price of current FF/Nuclear mix in Texas). Both current rates with 2 year commitment for my local power grid &#8211; guess which one we chose?</p>
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		<title>By: ThomasGerke</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ThomasGerke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This argument is used very often. When looking at it closly though, it&#039;s mainly a strawmen argument by anti-renewable interessts. 

For starters only 1/3 of the price increases since 2000 can be attributed to the rise of the renewable energy surcharge. So blaming the expansion of renewables is already questionable. 

In general mixing social policy relevant to individuals with energy policy relevant to the macro-economic long term outlook of the entire country seems to be a silly notion. 

Did you know that the government charges an additional 0.99 cent / kWh of value added tax on top of the renewable energy surcharge? That&#039;s approx. $1.5 billion Dollar in 2013... enough to finance an energy savings micro-credit program. 

But does the current government do that? Nope. 
They prefer to abuse poor people for their anti-renewable strawmen arguments. 

Dirty politics against clean energy. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This argument is used very often. When looking at it closly though, it&#8217;s mainly a strawmen argument by anti-renewable interessts. </p>
<p>For starters only 1/3 of the price increases since 2000 can be attributed to the rise of the renewable energy surcharge. So blaming the expansion of renewables is already questionable. </p>
<p>In general mixing social policy relevant to individuals with energy policy relevant to the macro-economic long term outlook of the entire country seems to be a silly notion. </p>
<p>Did you know that the government charges an additional 0.99 cent / kWh of value added tax on top of the renewable energy surcharge? That&#8217;s approx. $1.5 billion Dollar in 2013&#8230; enough to finance an energy savings micro-credit program. </p>
<p>But does the current government do that? Nope.<br />
They prefer to abuse poor people for their anti-renewable strawmen arguments. </p>
<p>Dirty politics against clean energy. <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: jmdesp</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154613</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jmdesp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The claim originally came from IWR, not from pro-nukes :
http://www.iwr.de/news.php?id=23123
And the number of coal plant does increase for now, apparently replacing gas plants from the numbers.

All the hype about wind &amp; solar hides that maybe the best result in Germany to reduce CO2 have been coming from transport, the industry, better insulation, biomass use. After all Wind &amp; solar were only 12% of electric power last year, with 10% coming from other renewable sources.

About coal, the start point is using the death/TWh data from this report 8000 death caused every year : http://www.env-health.org/IMG/pdf/heal_report_the_unpaid_health_bill_how_coal_power_plants_make_us_sick_final.pdf

Even if the filters enhance things significantly and will reduce that number of deaths per TWh, it&#039;s well documented they can&#039;t remove 100% of the fine particles, so there&#039;s still some deadly pollution. And anyway managing the coal ash is an unavoidable problem, should we talk about what happened in Kingston, Tennesse with coal ash ? The trouble is that the total volume is hundred of millions of tons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The claim originally came from IWR, not from pro-nukes :<br />
<a href="http://www.iwr.de/news.php?id=23123" rel="nofollow">http://www.iwr.de/news.php?id=23123</a><br />
And the number of coal plant does increase for now, apparently replacing gas plants from the numbers.</p>
<p>All the hype about wind &amp; solar hides that maybe the best result in Germany to reduce CO2 have been coming from transport, the industry, better insulation, biomass use. After all Wind &amp; solar were only 12% of electric power last year, with 10% coming from other renewable sources.</p>
<p>About coal, the start point is using the death/TWh data from this report 8000 death caused every year : <a href="http://www.env-health.org/IMG/pdf/heal_report_the_unpaid_health_bill_how_coal_power_plants_make_us_sick_final.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.env-health.org/IMG/pdf/heal_report_the_unpaid_health_bill_how_coal_power_plants_make_us_sick_final.pdf</a></p>
<p>Even if the filters enhance things significantly and will reduce that number of deaths per TWh, it&#8217;s well documented they can&#8217;t remove 100% of the fine particles, so there&#8217;s still some deadly pollution. And anyway managing the coal ash is an unavoidable problem, should we talk about what happened in Kingston, Tennesse with coal ash ? The trouble is that the total volume is hundred of millions of tons.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Germany&#039;s new coal burning plants are replacing (not adding to) the older plants that either have been or will soon be decommissioned. 

By 2020, 18.5 gigawatts of coal power capacity will be decommissioned, whereas only 11.3 gigawatts will be newly installed.

Furthermore those plants will be more efficient, releasing less CO2 per unit electricity produced than are the ones they are replacing.  And the new coal plants are partially load-following.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany&#8217;s new coal burning plants are replacing (not adding to) the older plants that either have been or will soon be decommissioned. </p>
<p>By 2020, 18.5 gigawatts of coal power capacity will be decommissioned, whereas only 11.3 gigawatts will be newly installed.</p>
<p>Furthermore those plants will be more efficient, releasing less CO2 per unit electricity produced than are the ones they are replacing.  And the new coal plants are partially load-following.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brakels</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brakels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Australia isn&#039;t building new coal capacity.  Let&#039;s see what have we shut down in the past year or so: Yallourn - 360 MW, Half of Tarong - 700 MW, Playford B - 250 MW, Swanbank B - 125 MW, Munmorrah, and now that Northern Power Station is shuts down for half the year we may as well include half its capacity which would be - 260 MW.  That makes for a total of about 2.2 gigawatts if I haven&#039;t left anything out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australia isn&#8217;t building new coal capacity.  Let&#8217;s see what have we shut down in the past year or so: Yallourn &#8211; 360 MW, Half of Tarong &#8211; 700 MW, Playford B &#8211; 250 MW, Swanbank B &#8211; 125 MW, Munmorrah, and now that Northern Power Station is shuts down for half the year we may as well include half its capacity which would be &#8211; 260 MW.  That makes for a total of about 2.2 gigawatts if I haven&#8217;t left anything out.</p>
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		<title>By: ThomasGerke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ThomasGerke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to understand the conflict in Germany and the parties that fight. 

You have King C.O.N.G on one side fully commited to a Coal, Oil, Nuclear &amp; Gas based conventional energy mix... and you got mainly independent investors of renewables on the other side. 

If the other side would not exist, the conventional power companies would replace almost their entire existing 100 GW fossil-nuclear power stations. That was their goal at the beginning this century, because it suites their business model. 

Now. They did have plans to build at least 22 GW by 2020-2030.... they&#039;ve started several projects between 2000-2006... most of those will propably come online. All of those approx. 6-8 GW coal power stations were designed &amp; permitted as replacements of older power stations. (including those that went into operation last year) 

That&#039;s the fossil fuel lobby / energy corperations side of the energy system. I don&#039;t deny their motives nor their agenda... what I am telling you, is that their strategy is a failure and that those investments will not pay of as well as indented.

Now to the other side: Renewables and their supporters. 

There have been noteworthy success stories of Anti-Coal Nimbyism... The coal power station near Mainz was stoped by protests &amp; reason. There&#039;s also the the ongoing legal battle of the already build Datteln-4 power station. (might never go online = several billion dollar wasted) 

Besides all that:
Somewhere between 2020-2030 renewables will reach a share of 50% in the electricity supply. At that point the share of coal will be limited to approx. 25% in the electricity supply due to technological limits of coal plant flexibility. 

There are certain short term trends that you mentioned, but I know of no new coal power station that went into construction during the last 5 years. No replacement, shrinking market and political consensus for long term phaseout of the ENTIRE conventional power system. Why should anyone invest in coal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to understand the conflict in Germany and the parties that fight. </p>
<p>You have King C.O.N.G on one side fully commited to a Coal, Oil, Nuclear &amp; Gas based conventional energy mix&#8230; and you got mainly independent investors of renewables on the other side. </p>
<p>If the other side would not exist, the conventional power companies would replace almost their entire existing 100 GW fossil-nuclear power stations. That was their goal at the beginning this century, because it suites their business model. </p>
<p>Now. They did have plans to build at least 22 GW by 2020-2030&#8230;. they&#8217;ve started several projects between 2000-2006&#8230; most of those will propably come online. All of those approx. 6-8 GW coal power stations were designed &amp; permitted as replacements of older power stations. (including those that went into operation last year) </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the fossil fuel lobby / energy corperations side of the energy system. I don&#8217;t deny their motives nor their agenda&#8230; what I am telling you, is that their strategy is a failure and that those investments will not pay of as well as indented.</p>
<p>Now to the other side: Renewables and their supporters. </p>
<p>There have been noteworthy success stories of Anti-Coal Nimbyism&#8230; The coal power station near Mainz was stoped by protests &amp; reason. There&#8217;s also the the ongoing legal battle of the already build Datteln-4 power station. (might never go online = several billion dollar wasted) </p>
<p>Besides all that:<br />
Somewhere between 2020-2030 renewables will reach a share of 50% in the electricity supply. At that point the share of coal will be limited to approx. 25% in the electricity supply due to technological limits of coal plant flexibility. </p>
<p>There are certain short term trends that you mentioned, but I know of no new coal power station that went into construction during the last 5 years. No replacement, shrinking market and political consensus for long term phaseout of the ENTIRE conventional power system. Why should anyone invest in coal?</p>
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		<title>By: jmdesp</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154569</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jmdesp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, you are getting manipulated by coal power, and the motivations of BUND are extremely suspicious to me.

What counts is indeed the tendency, and the tendency is that Germany is building more new coal than any other rich western country (except maybe Australia).

What counts is not the decoy projects that BUND can boats about. The coal industry is using here the shower of missiles strategy of starting many more projects than they ever intended to actually build. Then BUND can claim having stopped many of them but in truth the industry has had build as much as they ever really wanted to build, and maybe even more, because I doubt they really wanted 4.3 GW of new power with a demand that is not growing, gaining less money and having badly performing stocks.

But the first effect is that this power will replace gas generation, because it can still make a profit even at a much lower price, and push it almost fully out of the market. The Fraunhofer data shows in January and February gas was rarely running at less than 4GW, that&#039;s so much power coal can take the place of running almost 100% of the time.

The death sentence is for gas, not for coal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you are getting manipulated by coal power, and the motivations of BUND are extremely suspicious to me.</p>
<p>What counts is indeed the tendency, and the tendency is that Germany is building more new coal than any other rich western country (except maybe Australia).</p>
<p>What counts is not the decoy projects that BUND can boats about. The coal industry is using here the shower of missiles strategy of starting many more projects than they ever intended to actually build. Then BUND can claim having stopped many of them but in truth the industry has had build as much as they ever really wanted to build, and maybe even more, because I doubt they really wanted 4.3 GW of new power with a demand that is not growing, gaining less money and having badly performing stocks.</p>
<p>But the first effect is that this power will replace gas generation, because it can still make a profit even at a much lower price, and push it almost fully out of the market. The Fraunhofer data shows in January and February gas was rarely running at less than 4GW, that&#8217;s so much power coal can take the place of running almost 100% of the time.</p>
<p>The death sentence is for gas, not for coal.</p>
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		<title>By: jmdesp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jmdesp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the  social implications of rising so much electricity prices for all the people who are on the Hartz laws is what you all here don&#039;t get.

As well as the  social implications of taking that money to distribute it to the home-owners with room on the roof for solar panels, and who also are the one who have savings to invest in a wind turbine project.

It might revolutionize Germany, but maybe not in the way you think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the  social implications of rising so much electricity prices for all the people who are on the Hartz laws is what you all here don&#8217;t get.</p>
<p>As well as the  social implications of taking that money to distribute it to the home-owners with room on the roof for solar panels, and who also are the one who have savings to invest in a wind turbine project.</p>
<p>It might revolutionize Germany, but maybe not in the way you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill_Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill_Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 08:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;... it takes substantially more than two years to build a new coal power plant. Even if, as Barry Brook seems to think, the German government had decided to build lots of new coal as compensation for shutting down nuclear right after the Fukushima accident two years ago, none of those plants could be “started up” this year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Where this argument fails is in forgetting that the nuclear phaseout policy was set back in 2000, long before Merkel&#039;s 2010-11 flip-flop, and plans were made accordingly.

Back in 2009, 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Germany’s environment minister [!!] Sigmar Gabriel (Social Democratic Party) is pushing for the construction of new coal-fired power plants in Germany. “We need eight to twelve new coal plants if we want to get out of nuclear energy,” Gabriel said on Friday at a meeting of the Mainz-Wiesbaden AG (KMW) in Mainz. With regard to the opponents of the planned coal-fired power in Mainz, the minister said: “Those who demonstrate against coal-fired power will get nuclear power plants instead.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5064]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230; it takes substantially more than two years to build a new coal power plant. Even if, as Barry Brook seems to think, the German government had decided to build lots of new coal as compensation for shutting down nuclear right after the Fukushima accident two years ago, none of those plants could be “started up” this year.</p></blockquote>
<p>Where this argument fails is in forgetting that the nuclear phaseout policy was set back in 2000, long before Merkel&#8217;s 2010-11 flip-flop, and plans were made accordingly.</p>
<p>Back in 2009, </p>
<blockquote><p>Germany’s environment minister [!!] Sigmar Gabriel (Social Democratic Party) is pushing for the construction of new coal-fired power plants in Germany. “We need eight to twelve new coal plants if we want to get out of nuclear energy,” Gabriel said on Friday at a meeting of the Mainz-Wiesbaden AG (KMW) in Mainz. With regard to the opponents of the planned coal-fired power in Mainz, the minister said: “Those who demonstrate against coal-fired power will get nuclear power plants instead.”</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5064" rel="nofollow">http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5064</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the social implications are what most people don&#039;t get. Regarding the nuke industry in Germany, it&#039;s a good question. I&#039;d suspect they&#039;re just trying to preserve their remaining profits. Also, however, I think this is all really in reference to the nuclear enthusiasts (many of which are not in Germany, but in the UK and US) who are convinced nuclear power is the best power option, and are trying to keep other countries from going the route of Germany.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the social implications are what most people don&#8217;t get. Regarding the nuke industry in Germany, it&#8217;s a good question. I&#8217;d suspect they&#8217;re just trying to preserve their remaining profits. Also, however, I think this is all really in reference to the nuclear enthusiasts (many of which are not in Germany, but in the UK and US) who are convinced nuclear power is the best power option, and are trying to keep other countries from going the route of Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, jeez.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, jeez.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lenz dropped me a tweet regarding this term (not sure if he saw your comment or just the post). here&#039;s a post from him about the term: http://k.lenz.name/LB/?p=5909]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenz dropped me a tweet regarding this term (not sure if he saw your comment or just the post). here&#8217;s a post from him about the term: <a href="http://k.lenz.name/LB/?p=5909" rel="nofollow">http://k.lenz.name/LB/?p=5909</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great comments. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis11</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Otis11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s referring to a spelling mistake in the title. It&#039;s missing the n in Germany.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s referring to a spelling mistake in the title. It&#8217;s missing the n in Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis11</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/11/coal-plants-out-of-style-in-germay/#comment-154493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Otis11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite the numerous environmental benefits of solar PV, I actually think the social impacts of democratizing and distributing the power grid has more potential to revolutionize our society... Really facinated to watch this revolution develop.

And why hasn&#039;t the nuclear industry given up in Germany? I mean obviously they haven&#039;t given up completely from a business perspective, but they have to realize with the entire country supporting a move away from Nuclear they are fighting an impossible battle... At least in Germany.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the numerous environmental benefits of solar PV, I actually think the social impacts of democratizing and distributing the power grid has more potential to revolutionize our society&#8230; Really facinated to watch this revolution develop.</p>
<p>And why hasn&#8217;t the nuclear industry given up in Germany? I mean obviously they haven&#8217;t given up completely from a business perspective, but they have to realize with the entire country supporting a move away from Nuclear they are fighting an impossible battle&#8230; At least in Germany.</p>
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