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	<title>Comments on: German Solar PV In January &#8212; €1.52/Watt</title>
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		<title>By: Dimitar Mirchev</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-152453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimitar Mirchev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They will get their VAT from EEG surcharge one way or another because the renewable electricity has to be brought from renewabes and payed by EEG surcharge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will get their VAT from EEG surcharge one way or another because the renewable electricity has to be brought from renewabes and payed by EEG surcharge.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brakels</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-152280</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brakels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Look Dear!  Our rooftop solar saved us 20 euros this week!  Now let&#039;s burn a 20 euro note, as the government would just get filthy VAT money from us if we spent the money we saved on something useful.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Look Dear!  Our rooftop solar saved us 20 euros this week!  Now let&#8217;s burn a 20 euro note, as the government would just get filthy VAT money from us if we spent the money we saved on something useful.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-152203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Altmaier has plenty of critics. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Altmaier has plenty of critics. <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Dimitar Mirchev</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-152175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimitar Mirchev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But I see one problem. Altmaier saw it too :) From his proposals several weeks ago:

The “eroding solidarity” with regard to the EEG surcharge due to self-production and self-consumption shall be stopped

The more electricity the end users self-consume the less they buy from the grid and as a result less and less money are collected from the EEG surcharge and VAT. (Germany charges the EEG surcharge with VAT too - &quot;Private Households Pay EUR 937 Million in VAT on EEG Surcharge&quot; [ in 2012 ] )

It will be interesting to see how they are going to handle this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I see one problem. Altmaier saw it too <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> From his proposals several weeks ago:</p>
<p>The “eroding solidarity” with regard to the EEG surcharge due to self-production and self-consumption shall be stopped</p>
<p>The more electricity the end users self-consume the less they buy from the grid and as a result less and less money are collected from the EEG surcharge and VAT. (Germany charges the EEG surcharge with VAT too &#8211; &#8220;Private Households Pay EUR 937 Million in VAT on EEG Surcharge&#8221; [ in 2012 ] )</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how they are going to handle this.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-152158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely see it coming. Major companies are coming out with energy storage options for such people. If the price is competitive enough, this could start quite a shift.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely see it coming. Major companies are coming out with energy storage options for such people. If the price is competitive enough, this could start quite a shift.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitar Mirchev</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-152022</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimitar Mirchev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True. But once people realize how much money they loose by selling their electricity cheap under FIT contracts and later having to buy at [double] price including VAT, etc a demand for home grid storage will emerge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. But once people realize how much money they loose by selling their electricity cheap under FIT contracts and later having to buy at [double] price including VAT, etc a demand for home grid storage will emerge.</p>
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		<title>By: globi</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-151963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[globi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[However, 100% self-consumption is usually not possible (without batteries or a relatively small PV-system compared to the average electricity consumption) and Germany just doesn&#039;t offer net-metering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, 100% self-consumption is usually not possible (without batteries or a relatively small PV-system compared to the average electricity consumption) and Germany just doesn&#8217;t offer net-metering.</p>
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		<title>By: globi</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-151962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[globi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s an example of a 5 kW PV-System with everything included for €1.22 /W:
http://www.photovoltaikforum.com/angebote-f41/94369-5kwp-1220eur-et-solar-t88095.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an example of a 5 kW PV-System with everything included for €1.22 /W:<br />
<a href="http://www.photovoltaikforum.com/angebote-f41/94369-5kwp-1220eur-et-solar-t88095.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.photovoltaikforum.com/angebote-f41/94369-5kwp-1220eur-et-solar-t88095.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-151947</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A &quot;less than 7 years&quot; payback is a better than 10% return on investment.


Just try to find a relatively safe place to invest your money at 10%.  (And please let me know if you do.  lo)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;less than 7 years&#8221; payback is a better than 10% return on investment.</p>
<p>Just try to find a relatively safe place to invest your money at 10%.  (And please let me know if you do.  lo)</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitar Mirchev</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/20/german-solar-pv-in-january-e1-52watt/#comment-151906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimitar Mirchev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1520 euro/kWp with 900 kWh/kWp per year and electricity price of 25 eurocents/kWh means that the system will pay back in less than 7 years if it is built for self-consumption. Of course if electricity price stays at 25 eurocents/kWh in the next 7 years.

http://bit.ly/LrRWPW]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1520 euro/kWp with 900 kWh/kWp per year and electricity price of 25 eurocents/kWh means that the system will pay back in less than 7 years if it is built for self-consumption. Of course if electricity price stays at 25 eurocents/kWh in the next 7 years.</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/LrRWPW" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/LrRWPW</a></p>
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