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	<title>Comments on: Fox News: Can You Get Any More Insane? Germany Is Sunnier Than The US? (VIDEO)</title>
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		<title>By: Sally Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The solar PV system on my roof consists of 33 255W Bosch panels. From 
last July when I received authorization to operate it from the local 
utility company, my system has generated 11,946 KWh of electricity in 
3916 hours of operation, saving (so the meter says) 20,309 pounds of CO2
 from being created to produce that energy. It generated over 50 KWh 
yesterday alone.

How anyone can oppose solar energy production is beyond me. It&#039;s cheap and getting cheaper (especially when you consider the cost of dismantling a facility such as San Onofre).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solar PV system on my roof consists of 33 255W Bosch panels. From<br />
last July when I received authorization to operate it from the local<br />
utility company, my system has generated 11,946 KWh of electricity in<br />
3916 hours of operation, saving (so the meter says) 20,309 pounds of CO2<br />
 from being created to produce that energy. It generated over 50 KWh<br />
yesterday alone.</p>
<p>How anyone can oppose solar energy production is beyond me. It&#8217;s cheap and getting cheaper (especially when you consider the cost of dismantling a facility such as San Onofre).</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Askins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickey Askins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They could not be more ignorant if they tried.  Solar parity is right around the corner and these idiots think it happens by accident. Fox and the GOP, the anti science anti progress society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could not be more ignorant if they tried.  Solar parity is right around the corner and these idiots think it happens by accident. Fox and the GOP, the anti science anti progress society.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haha. good try... well, not really.

we read &amp; write about this stuff every day. we&#039;ve looked at the numbers and keep up with them obsessively. it seems you have a clear agenda. but if you&#039;re genuinely interested in learning, we actually have 4 articles in response to the Foc &amp; Friends clip, tackling different matters of the segment. please see:
 http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/08/fox-news-fails-big-time-on-solar-subsidies/ 
http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/09/germany-solar-power-lessons/
 http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/09/germany-has-more-solar-power-because-everyone-wins/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha. good try&#8230; well, not really.</p>
<p>we read &amp; write about this stuff every day. we&#8217;ve looked at the numbers and keep up with them obsessively. it seems you have a clear agenda. but if you&#8217;re genuinely interested in learning, we actually have 4 articles in response to the Foc &amp; Friends clip, tackling different matters of the segment. please see:<br />
 <a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/08/fox-news-fails-big-time-on-solar-subsidies/" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/08/fox-news-fails-big-time-on-solar-subsidies/</a><br />
<a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/09/germany-solar-power-lessons/" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/09/germany-solar-power-lessons/</a><br />
 <a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/09/germany-has-more-solar-power-because-everyone-wins/" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/09/germany-has-more-solar-power-because-everyone-wins/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bookmarking that one. Actually, need to add it to our oil subsidies post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bookmarking that one. Actually, need to add it to our oil subsidies post.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are SOLAR ENDOWED!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are SOLAR ENDOWED!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you get that bit of stupidity from Fox?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you get that bit of stupidity from Fox?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wind and solar is competition to drive electricity price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wind and solar is competition to drive electricity price.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim, Germany has high electricity prices because the German government is letting a very small number of electricity producers control the price of electricity.  This problem started well before renewables were brought on the grid.

Read this 2009 article from the conservative Economist...

http://www.economist.com/node/13527440

Solar is lowering the wholesale cost of electricity in Germany.  Those lower prices are not being passed on to retail customers.  The wholesale price drops created by solar far exceed any renewable energy tax.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, Germany has high electricity prices because the German government is letting a very small number of electricity producers control the price of electricity.  This problem started well before renewables were brought on the grid.</p>
<p>Read this 2009 article from the conservative Economist&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/node/13527440" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/node/13527440</a></p>
<p>Solar is lowering the wholesale cost of electricity in Germany.  Those lower prices are not being passed on to retail customers.  The wholesale price drops created by solar far exceed any renewable energy tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.  Germany had very high electricity prices long before they started install lots of solar. 

Read this.  It&#039;s from a conservative publication.  

http://www.economist.com/node/13527440

2. Solar has reduced the wholesale price of electricity in Germany.  Those wholesale price reductions have not been passed on to retail customers.

Remember what you read in the Economist article.

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I&#039;ll bet you won&#039;t read the article.  Let me bring the important pieces to you.  Remember this was written in 2009, before Germany had installed a lot of renewables.  And before Germany decided to shut down nuclear in 2011.

&quot;The competition regulator is trying to work out why energy prices in Europe&#039;s biggest economy are so stubbornly high, and in some cases still rising, even though oil and gas prices have fallen sharply. It suspects that generators may have been keeping prices artificially high by, for instance, shutting power stations in concert to limit supplies.&quot;

&quot;The first sign that the market is not working is in Germany&#039;s electricity prices, which are among the highest in Europe, even though it has access to abundant cheap coal.&quot;

&quot;The main reason Germany&#039;s electricity market is not working as it should is the lack of competition.&quot;

&quot;A second problem is that Germany&#039;s biggest electricity generators also own the networks that distribute electricity. Critics argue that this gives them a huge advantage over independent producers, which may struggle to gain access to the networks fairly....&quot;

And this little jewel at the end of the article...

&quot;And over the longer run, ambitious plans to increase the share of electricity from renewable sources may erode the dominance of the country&#039;s four biggest electricity generators. Germany hopes to get as much as 30% of its electricity from renewable sources by 2020, and although few in the industry think the target will be met&quot;



Germany got 26% of its electricity in 2012.  They&#039;ll likely hit the 2020 mark seven years early.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Germany had very high electricity prices long before they started install lots of solar. </p>
<p>Read this.  It&#8217;s from a conservative publication.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/node/13527440" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/node/13527440</a></p>
<p>2. Solar has reduced the wholesale price of electricity in Germany.  Those wholesale price reductions have not been passed on to retail customers.</p>
<p>Remember what you read in the Economist article.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet you won&#8217;t read the article.  Let me bring the important pieces to you.  Remember this was written in 2009, before Germany had installed a lot of renewables.  And before Germany decided to shut down nuclear in 2011.</p>
<p>&#8220;The competition regulator is trying to work out why energy prices in Europe&#8217;s biggest economy are so stubbornly high, and in some cases still rising, even though oil and gas prices have fallen sharply. It suspects that generators may have been keeping prices artificially high by, for instance, shutting power stations in concert to limit supplies.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The first sign that the market is not working is in Germany&#8217;s electricity prices, which are among the highest in Europe, even though it has access to abundant cheap coal.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The main reason Germany&#8217;s electricity market is not working as it should is the lack of competition.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A second problem is that Germany&#8217;s biggest electricity generators also own the networks that distribute electricity. Critics argue that this gives them a huge advantage over independent producers, which may struggle to gain access to the networks fairly&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>And this little jewel at the end of the article&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;And over the longer run, ambitious plans to increase the share of electricity from renewable sources may erode the dominance of the country&#8217;s four biggest electricity generators. Germany hopes to get as much as 30% of its electricity from renewable sources by 2020, and although few in the industry think the target will be met&#8221;</p>
<p>Germany got 26% of its electricity in 2012.  They&#8217;ll likely hit the 2020 mark seven years early.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes it is, Germany has the highest electricity price next to Australia and it because of the taxes that have been applied to electricity for renewables green energy like rooftop grid solar power. Germany now has “Energy solidarity tax” that apply to rooftop grid solar power to gain back lost revenue and this is the only way which you can lower electricity prices is to tax grid connected rooftop solar power]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is, Germany has the highest electricity price next to Australia and it because of the taxes that have been applied to electricity for renewables green energy like rooftop grid solar power. Germany now has “Energy solidarity tax” that apply to rooftop grid solar power to gain back lost revenue and this is the only way which you can lower electricity prices is to tax grid connected rooftop solar power</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[German Propaganda that solar power drive down electricity price why did the price go up in Germany, why are a large percentage of German people can’t afford electricity, if the price went down?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>German Propaganda that solar power drive down electricity price why did the price go up in Germany, why are a large percentage of German people can’t afford electricity, if the price went down?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and you might find this fun reading.  It&#039;s all about how solar is cutting the wholesale cost of electricity in Germany....

&quot;We again see prices rise from the early morning to about 8 or 9am, but then look at what happens when the sun (and its 25 GW of power capacity from solar panels) kick in — the price drops off a cliff, diving even deeper than the price of electricity in the dead of night!&quot;


You really need to look at the pretty pictures in this article.

http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/23/german-solar-bringing-down-price-of-afternoon-electricity-big-time-more-charts-facts/#R5sl3RdYCZgZedlS.99

And this one...

(A) recent study by Germany’s Institute for Future Energy Systems (IZES), conducted on behalf of of the German Solar Industry Association (BSW-Solar), has found that, on average, solar power has reduced the price of electricity 10% in Germany (on the EPEX exchange). It reduces prices up to 40% in the early afternoon, when electricity demand is peaking and electricity typically costs the most.&quot;

Solar reduces electricity price by 40% in early afternoons and by 10% overall.  

I&#039;ll bet that&#039;s not what Fox has told, er, misinformed you.

http://cleantechnica.com/2012/02/09/solar-pv-reducing-price-of-electricity-in-germany/#4g3wlHu4Q70AkCc8.99]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and you might find this fun reading.  It&#8217;s all about how solar is cutting the wholesale cost of electricity in Germany&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;We again see prices rise from the early morning to about 8 or 9am, but then look at what happens when the sun (and its 25 GW of power capacity from solar panels) kick in — the price drops off a cliff, diving even deeper than the price of electricity in the dead of night!&#8221;</p>
<p>You really need to look at the pretty pictures in this article.</p>
<p><a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/23/german-solar-bringing-down-price-of-afternoon-electricity-big-time-more-charts-facts/#R5sl3RdYCZgZedlS.99" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/23/german-solar-bringing-down-price-of-afternoon-electricity-big-time-more-charts-facts/#R5sl3RdYCZgZedlS.99</a></p>
<p>And this one&#8230;</p>
<p>(A) recent study by Germany’s Institute for Future Energy Systems (IZES), conducted on behalf of of the German Solar Industry Association (BSW-Solar), has found that, on average, solar power has reduced the price of electricity 10% in Germany (on the EPEX exchange). It reduces prices up to 40% in the early afternoon, when electricity demand is peaking and electricity typically costs the most.&#8221;</p>
<p>Solar reduces electricity price by 40% in early afternoons and by 10% overall.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet that&#8217;s not what Fox has told, er, misinformed you.</p>
<p><a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2012/02/09/solar-pv-reducing-price-of-electricity-in-germany/#4g3wlHu4Q70AkCc8.99" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2012/02/09/solar-pv-reducing-price-of-electricity-in-germany/#4g3wlHu4Q70AkCc8.99</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking past my green nose here&#039;s what I see.

New nuclear - at least $0.12/kWh.  That does not include subsidies.

New coal - at least $0.12/kWh.  That does not include external costs which run more than $0.10/kWh, so over $0.22/kW.

Old coal - actually if you add in what we pay in tax dollars and health insurance costs to treat those who get ill from coal pollution we pay around $0.20/kWh.  Then there are the ~13,000 Americans who die each year from coal pollution illnesses.

New solar - we&#039;ve just seen a purchase agreement signed for $0.0579/kW which includes about $0.05/kWh in subsidies, so $0.11/kWh.

New wind - $0.06/kWh.  Add in transmission and it rises to $0.09/kWh.

New natural gas - $0.06/kWh.  But those prices won&#039;t hold, NG is temporarily cheap.

I lined them up from most expensive to least expensive for you.


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Germany&#039;s high electricity prices are not caused by renewables nor by Germany closing down nuclear plants.  Germany had high electricity prices back before renewables and closing nuclear became issues.  

Germany&#039;s high electricity prices come from the lack of competition.  Here&#039;s an article from the conservative Economist, written in 2009.

http://www.economist.com/node/13527440



Funny thing is happening in Germany right now.  Solar on the grid is making midday wholesale electricity on sunny days as cheap or cheaper than late night electricity.  


But the utility companies are not passing those savings on to their customers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking past my green nose here&#8217;s what I see.</p>
<p>New nuclear &#8211; at least $0.12/kWh.  That does not include subsidies.</p>
<p>New coal &#8211; at least $0.12/kWh.  That does not include external costs which run more than $0.10/kWh, so over $0.22/kW.</p>
<p>Old coal &#8211; actually if you add in what we pay in tax dollars and health insurance costs to treat those who get ill from coal pollution we pay around $0.20/kWh.  Then there are the ~13,000 Americans who die each year from coal pollution illnesses.</p>
<p>New solar &#8211; we&#8217;ve just seen a purchase agreement signed for $0.0579/kW which includes about $0.05/kWh in subsidies, so $0.11/kWh.</p>
<p>New wind &#8211; $0.06/kWh.  Add in transmission and it rises to $0.09/kWh.</p>
<p>New natural gas &#8211; $0.06/kWh.  But those prices won&#8217;t hold, NG is temporarily cheap.</p>
<p>I lined them up from most expensive to least expensive for you.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Germany&#8217;s high electricity prices are not caused by renewables nor by Germany closing down nuclear plants.  Germany had high electricity prices back before renewables and closing nuclear became issues.  </p>
<p>Germany&#8217;s high electricity prices come from the lack of competition.  Here&#8217;s an article from the conservative Economist, written in 2009.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/node/13527440" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/node/13527440</a></p>
<p>Funny thing is happening in Germany right now.  Solar on the grid is making midday wholesale electricity on sunny days as cheap or cheaper than late night electricity.  </p>
<p>But the utility companies are not passing those savings on to their customers.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently you are so into solar power that you can&#039;t see past the tip of your green nose. You missed the point as most of you left leaning smart people do. Fact, solar and wind cannot sustain themselves in the US without subsidies and Americans are not willing to pay the rates that are paid in Germany to support inefficient undependable electricity. As long as there is cheap natural gas or coal Americans will not be persuaded to pay for green electricity. If you would have listened to the whole report you may have understood that instead of focusing on the brunette having a blonde moment you have gotten that. BTW are you sure you don&#039;&#039;t work for Chris Mathews, now that&#039;s a guy who has his facts straight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently you are so into solar power that you can&#8217;t see past the tip of your green nose. You missed the point as most of you left leaning smart people do. Fact, solar and wind cannot sustain themselves in the US without subsidies and Americans are not willing to pay the rates that are paid in Germany to support inefficient undependable electricity. As long as there is cheap natural gas or coal Americans will not be persuaded to pay for green electricity. If you would have listened to the whole report you may have understood that instead of focusing on the brunette having a blonde moment you have gotten that. BTW are you sure you don&#8221;t work for Chris Mathews, now that&#8217;s a guy who has his facts straight.</p>
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		<title>By: jburt56</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/08/fox-news-can-you-get-any-more-insane-germany-is-sunnier-than-the-us-video/#comment-150698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jburt56]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enough to put a 10kWp solar array on every home in America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough to put a 10kWp solar array on every home in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Kerr</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/08/fox-news-can-you-get-any-more-insane-germany-is-sunnier-than-the-us-video/#comment-150621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Kerr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You point out the obvious fallacy in their delusional thinking Bob but here is the bottom line. If we don&#039;t stop with the insanity of altering the chemistry of our atmosphere we won&#039;t be around in 100 years regardless of how much NG (methane) remains.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You point out the obvious fallacy in their delusional thinking Bob but here is the bottom line. If we don&#8217;t stop with the insanity of altering the chemistry of our atmosphere we won&#8217;t be around in 100 years regardless of how much NG (methane) remains.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Kerr</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/08/fox-news-can-you-get-any-more-insane-germany-is-sunnier-than-the-us-video/#comment-150620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Kerr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kinda makes one want to pull their hair out. I&#039;m a peaceful guy but I couldn&#039;t stop my mind from thinking &quot; If somebody strangled that woman they would be wrong?&quot; arrgg
Then I was reminded of a quote &quot;there are only two things that are infinite, human stupidity and the universe and I&#039;m not sure about the universe&quot;! If you guessed Einstein you&#039;d be correct. I&#039;d be able to laugh at that sad little bit of theater if I didn&#039;t know that countless folks will believe the drivel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda makes one want to pull their hair out. I&#8217;m a peaceful guy but I couldn&#8217;t stop my mind from thinking &#8221; If somebody strangled that woman they would be wrong?&#8221; arrgg<br />
Then I was reminded of a quote &#8220;there are only two things that are infinite, human stupidity and the universe and I&#8217;m not sure about the universe&#8221;! If you guessed Einstein you&#8217;d be correct. I&#8217;d be able to laugh at that sad little bit of theater if I didn&#8217;t know that countless folks will believe the drivel.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/08/fox-news-can-you-get-any-more-insane-germany-is-sunnier-than-the-us-video/#comment-150615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrEnergyCzar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was a funny one... do people still believe this as news?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a funny one&#8230; do people still believe this as news?</p>
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		<title>By: lockstockedd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lockstockedd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Her husband (Rahul Advani) also works for Energy Capital Partners which invests heavily in natural gas. (They do invest in renewable such as solar as well but is primarily focused on ng)

http://www.ecpartners.com/principals.aspx

Not saying that this directly affects what she says, but is worth noting]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her husband (Rahul Advani) also works for Energy Capital Partners which invests heavily in natural gas. (They do invest in renewable such as solar as well but is primarily focused on ng)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ecpartners.com/principals.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecpartners.com/principals.aspx</a></p>
<p>Not saying that this directly affects what she says, but is worth noting</p>
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