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	<title>Comments on: China Forecast To Hit 150 GW Installed Wind Capacity By 2015</title>
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		<title>By: mishasibirsk</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/11/30/china-forecast-to-hit-150-gw-installed-wind-capacity-by-2015/#comment-145301</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Clean energy&quot;

Unfortunately, this term, if used without comment, invites suspicion. I chased one chain of  links through to &quot;Maryland Clean Energy...&quot; It turns out that they use the term  as it should be able to be understood if it hadn&#039;t been discoloured by unsightly yellow (cake) patches courtesy of the Chinese Communist Party, which has an idea that it can re-educate the international environmental movement about how it should think of &quot;clean.&quot; I found that the Marylanders explicitly contrast clean with nuclear.That would correspond with precepts of most who would consider themselves environmentally motivated. 


Most, or at least a growing minority of those same are by now on guard against the bizarre attempt of the CCP, a dictatorship, to foist its reframed terminology onto a free market of ideas. At least the linked source, a Clean Technica colleague, does indicate, though without comment, that China&#039;s talk about clean energy includes nuclear. If Clean Technica is not getting any pecuniary encouragement from China to to attempt to palm off its wolfish thinking in sheep&#039;s clothing, it would do well to be wary of uncritically passing on whatever the PR arm of a fascist regime churns out. 



None of that, of course, in any way seeks to detract from the seriously impressive development of RE in China, under same said fascist regime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clean energy&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this term, if used without comment, invites suspicion. I chased one chain of  links through to &#8220;Maryland Clean Energy&#8230;&#8221; It turns out that they use the term  as it should be able to be understood if it hadn&#8217;t been discoloured by unsightly yellow (cake) patches courtesy of the Chinese Communist Party, which has an idea that it can re-educate the international environmental movement about how it should think of &#8220;clean.&#8221; I found that the Marylanders explicitly contrast clean with nuclear.That would correspond with precepts of most who would consider themselves environmentally motivated. </p>
<p>Most, or at least a growing minority of those same are by now on guard against the bizarre attempt of the CCP, a dictatorship, to foist its reframed terminology onto a free market of ideas. At least the linked source, a Clean Technica colleague, does indicate, though without comment, that China&#8217;s talk about clean energy includes nuclear. If Clean Technica is not getting any pecuniary encouragement from China to to attempt to palm off its wolfish thinking in sheep&#8217;s clothing, it would do well to be wary of uncritically passing on whatever the PR arm of a fascist regime churns out. </p>
<p>None of that, of course, in any way seeks to detract from the seriously impressive development of RE in China, under same said fascist regime.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 12:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many jobs were created in china from this?  And, on a per capita basis, what would that translate to for the United States if we did the same thing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many jobs were created in china from this?  And, on a per capita basis, what would that translate to for the United States if we did the same thing?</p>
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		<title>By: anderlan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anderlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[150GWpeak will still be only about 4-5% of .CN electricity consumption averaged per year.  Quadruple that by 2020 with solar adding another 5+ percent and things will just be getting started. 
Pray and pay for technological improvements.  Bet on economies of scale.  Decommission coal and use gas only for peaking (requires legal mandate (plus party discipline in China)), increase storage among customers and in grid. Continue this process for 20 more years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>150GWpeak will still be only about 4-5% of .CN electricity consumption averaged per year.  Quadruple that by 2020 with solar adding another 5+ percent and things will just be getting started.<br />
Pray and pay for technological improvements.  Bet on economies of scale.  Decommission coal and use gas only for peaking (requires legal mandate (plus party discipline in China)), increase storage among customers and in grid. Continue this process for 20 more years.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Todd Peffly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Todd Peffly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wind turbine arms is the arms raise we should be trying to win. Much better pay back than military arms to protect oil fields in Middle East.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wind turbine arms is the arms raise we should be trying to win. Much better pay back than military arms to protect oil fields in Middle East.</p>
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