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	<title>Comments on: New York Manufacturer Goes Solar, to Save $50,000 Annually</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/29/new-york-manufacturer-goes-solar-to-save-50000-annually/#comment-142054</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t disagree with this logic.  At the same time, every project a company pursues has upfront costs.  Here is my question, how many different ways can a family owned manufacturing company save $50,000 annually?  I feel confident the list is short, and it doesn&#039;t involve dirty energy in any way what so ever.  Not once has dirty energy said to anyone, here is how I can save you money, by helping you produce your own energy.  That is the point.  Those who create energy have power over their finances.  That is also why in this country the lions share of renewables is going to the already rich, those who control everything while in places like Germany, 65% of renewable resources are owned by people.  There is correlation as to why the German economy is one of the strongest in the world.  When people are allowed to succeed as easily as the rich, they will, and the economy will also do better.  We already know that Trickle down economics doesn&#039;t work for everyone.  Think about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with this logic.  At the same time, every project a company pursues has upfront costs.  Here is my question, how many different ways can a family owned manufacturing company save $50,000 annually?  I feel confident the list is short, and it doesn&#8217;t involve dirty energy in any way what so ever.  Not once has dirty energy said to anyone, here is how I can save you money, by helping you produce your own energy.  That is the point.  Those who create energy have power over their finances.  That is also why in this country the lions share of renewables is going to the already rich, those who control everything while in places like Germany, 65% of renewable resources are owned by people.  There is correlation as to why the German economy is one of the strongest in the world.  When people are allowed to succeed as easily as the rich, they will, and the economy will also do better.  We already know that Trickle down economics doesn&#8217;t work for everyone.  Think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Lucrative</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/29/new-york-manufacturer-goes-solar-to-save-50000-annually/#comment-142053</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Lucrative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Germany 65% of renewable energy is owned by people or cooperatives.  But in the United States only 2% own our renewable resources.  That means that 98% is owned by big corporations, probably the same ones that are telling us it doesn&#039;t make sense, while they gobble up the money to be made.  How ridiculous is it that we complain about how prevalent big corporations are in our politics and every other aspect of our lives.  While at the same time we refuse to take advantage for ourselves in our own lives.  I am making a commitment in my life to do what i can to make money for myself.  I have invested in LED lights; sounds trivial to some, but $1 invested returns $6 in savings or better!  There are many other things I do, this is just 1 example!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Germany 65% of renewable energy is owned by people or cooperatives.  But in the United States only 2% own our renewable resources.  That means that 98% is owned by big corporations, probably the same ones that are telling us it doesn&#8217;t make sense, while they gobble up the money to be made.  How ridiculous is it that we complain about how prevalent big corporations are in our politics and every other aspect of our lives.  While at the same time we refuse to take advantage for ourselves in our own lives.  I am making a commitment in my life to do what i can to make money for myself.  I have invested in LED lights; sounds trivial to some, but $1 invested returns $6 in savings or better!  There are many other things I do, this is just 1 example!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/29/new-york-manufacturer-goes-solar-to-save-50000-annually/#comment-142052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there any way Dirty energy can help regular people save or make money?  Or is Dirty energy ONLY a way for rich people to make money off of those beneath them?  I argue that Renewable energy is more democratic because regular people have more ability to take control of their financial future.  There are always upfront costs in any money making endeavor.  That is a no brainer.  We should also mention that the majority of small businesses fail within the first year.  How many solar panel installations fail?  None?  Well you won&#039;t get rich by putting solar on your home (unless you put solar on everyones home), but you will make money; we can&#039;t say the same of every small business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way Dirty energy can help regular people save or make money?  Or is Dirty energy ONLY a way for rich people to make money off of those beneath them?  I argue that Renewable energy is more democratic because regular people have more ability to take control of their financial future.  There are always upfront costs in any money making endeavor.  That is a no brainer.  We should also mention that the majority of small businesses fail within the first year.  How many solar panel installations fail?  None?  Well you won&#8217;t get rich by putting solar on your home (unless you put solar on everyones home), but you will make money; we can&#8217;t say the same of every small business.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/29/new-york-manufacturer-goes-solar-to-save-50000-annually/#comment-142051</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When was the last time Rich Oil men found a way to help a family owned manufacturing company save $50,000 annually?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was the last time Rich Oil men found a way to help a family owned manufacturing company save $50,000 annually?</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/29/new-york-manufacturer-goes-solar-to-save-50000-annually/#comment-139680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[karl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. Inclusion of cost and years payback would be nice to know especially with something this scale. I&#039;m guessing they get pretty nice NYS and Fed tax credits. A large scale project like this would also be more cost effective than a simple residential due to volume purchasing. I&#039;m sure its well worth it for th ecompany to go this route but wIth so many factors it would be nice to know how long this in initial investment pays for itself. 5 years ? 10 ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Inclusion of cost and years payback would be nice to know especially with something this scale. I&#8217;m guessing they get pretty nice NYS and Fed tax credits. A large scale project like this would also be more cost effective than a simple residential due to volume purchasing. I&#8217;m sure its well worth it for th ecompany to go this route but wIth so many factors it would be nice to know how long this in initial investment pays for itself. 5 years ? 10 ?</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/29/new-york-manufacturer-goes-solar-to-save-50000-annually/#comment-139637</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I assume the installation by solarCity was free to GAL in exchange for a PPP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume the installation by solarCity was free to GAL in exchange for a PPP.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitar Mirchev</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/29/new-york-manufacturer-goes-solar-to-save-50000-annually/#comment-139626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimitar Mirchev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Solar for self-consumption has interesting ROI mechanics. It reduces the risk of future rise of electricity prices, gives your company better image, etc. etc. But take a look at this: http://bit.ly/LrRWPW]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar for self-consumption has interesting ROI mechanics. It reduces the risk of future rise of electricity prices, gives your company better image, etc. etc. But take a look at this: <a href="http://bit.ly/LrRWPW" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/LrRWPW</a></p>
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		<title>By: youareme7</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/29/new-york-manufacturer-goes-solar-to-save-50000-annually/#comment-139624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[youareme7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t like articles that say how much you save in utility costs but completely neglect to mention capital costs for installation. I know the source is that way too so I&#039;m not blaming Joshua, but without ROI at least this kind of story is very misleading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t like articles that say how much you save in utility costs but completely neglect to mention capital costs for installation. I know the source is that way too so I&#8217;m not blaming Joshua, but without ROI at least this kind of story is very misleading.</p>
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