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	<title>Comments on: New Modular EV-Hybrid Features Battery And Engine Swapping</title>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/04/new-modular-ev-hybrid-features-battery-and-engine-swapping/#comment-135716</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect higher capacity batteries will make this moot, but...


Four door pickups have become quite popular.  What if these were built as small pickups?  The bed could be used to place the ICE for long trips and the bed would be available at other  times for all those truck things....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect higher capacity batteries will make this moot, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Four door pickups have become quite popular.  What if these were built as small pickups?  The bed could be used to place the ICE for long trips and the bed would be available at other  times for all those truck things&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SirSparks</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted my comment before seeing yours, needless to say I agree with you although for heat dissipation  noise and connection problems (gas,air &amp; exhaust) I don&#039;t think a standard Honda would work. Also a purpose built unit does not need speed control and can have only two positions; full speed and Off, this way it can then be tuned to the most efficient speed instead of needing multiple speeds with varying efficiencies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted my comment before seeing yours, needless to say I agree with you although for heat dissipation  noise and connection problems (gas,air &amp; exhaust) I don&#8217;t think a standard Honda would work. Also a purpose built unit does not need speed control and can have only two positions; full speed and Off, this way it can then be tuned to the most efficient speed instead of needing multiple speeds with varying efficiencies.</p>
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		<title>By: SirSparks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SirSparks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely over-complicated! Why not just use a drop in gas generator when extended range is needed?Should be able to get a purpose built 10Kw unit which is quite and quick connect for a few thousand. Light and with only 4 connections easy enough for 2 people to remove/install in 10 minutes.


If 17Kwh gets the car 87 miles as stated then a 10Kw unit should be able to work like this;
17Kwh will drive car at 43.5 mph for 2 hours in which time generator has supplied a further 20Kwh. Hence to my reckoning the car should be capable of 50 to 60 mph for many hours.


As an example let&#039;s say we are going to grandma&#039;s place 140 miles away, then 140 miles at 50mph = 2.8  hours. 2.8 hours @10 Kwh generator is 28 Kwh. plus 17Kwh battery = 45 Kwh or just over 16Kwh for each of the 2.8 hours of drive time. Now according to the statistics given the car has a range on battery only of 87 miles so if we travel at 50 mph this is 1.74 hours and 17.4 Kwh of power produced by the generator. In other words as long as you have gas the range is unlimited and in practice a 5Kw generator will likely suffice for a 140 mile trip to Grandma&#039;s.


We already know the battery will take us 87 miles in 1.74 hours during which time the smaller 5kw generator has produced 8.7Kwhr so 140 miles total.  a 1 lunch break and the car is ready to drive another 30 plus miles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely over-complicated! Why not just use a drop in gas generator when extended range is needed?Should be able to get a purpose built 10Kw unit which is quite and quick connect for a few thousand. Light and with only 4 connections easy enough for 2 people to remove/install in 10 minutes.</p>
<p>If 17Kwh gets the car 87 miles as stated then a 10Kw unit should be able to work like this;<br />
17Kwh will drive car at 43.5 mph for 2 hours in which time generator has supplied a further 20Kwh. Hence to my reckoning the car should be capable of 50 to 60 mph for many hours.</p>
<p>As an example let&#8217;s say we are going to grandma&#8217;s place 140 miles away, then 140 miles at 50mph = 2.8  hours. 2.8 hours @10 Kwh generator is 28 Kwh. plus 17Kwh battery = 45 Kwh or just over 16Kwh for each of the 2.8 hours of drive time. Now according to the statistics given the car has a range on battery only of 87 miles so if we travel at 50 mph this is 1.74 hours and 17.4 Kwh of power produced by the generator. In other words as long as you have gas the range is unlimited and in practice a 5Kw generator will likely suffice for a 140 mile trip to Grandma&#8217;s.</p>
<p>We already know the battery will take us 87 miles in 1.74 hours during which time the smaller 5kw generator has produced 8.7Kwhr so 140 miles total.  a 1 lunch break and the car is ready to drive another 30 plus miles.</p>
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		<title>By: anderlan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this an EV-Hybrid...Hybrid?

Wouldn&#039;t it be easier to put a charging port inside the trunk and drop portable honda generator in there for extended range?  I&#039;m serious. The biggest work would be adding the new mode to the battery-regen controller software.  

If we need the flexibility of offering a generator OR a bigger battery, then also put in a port next to the charge port to plug an additional larger battery.  Once again, the work is in the integration of the larger battery into the resource management algorithms of the vehicle&#039;s controller, and in the electrical engineering of the whole system.

Screw mechanical linkages. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this an EV-Hybrid&#8230;Hybrid?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be easier to put a charging port inside the trunk and drop portable honda generator in there for extended range?  I&#8217;m serious. The biggest work would be adding the new mode to the battery-regen controller software.  </p>
<p>If we need the flexibility of offering a generator OR a bigger battery, then also put in a port next to the charge port to plug an additional larger battery.  Once again, the work is in the integration of the larger battery into the resource management algorithms of the vehicle&#8217;s controller, and in the electrical engineering of the whole system.</p>
<p>Screw mechanical linkages. </p>
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		<title>By: Stan Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan Stein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These people need a hobby......since the surge in popularity of EVs, this is the most rediculous thing I have seen.....32K without modules? This aberation gets less gas mileage than 27 cars available in the US, and would cost twice as much as the smaller Prius.....in fact.....you could buy a prius, and solar panels to save on your home power costs and have effectively NO fuel costs at all.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people need a hobby&#8230;&#8230;since the surge in popularity of EVs, this is the most rediculous thing I have seen&#8230;..32K without modules? This aberation gets less gas mileage than 27 cars available in the US, and would cost twice as much as the smaller Prius&#8230;..in fact&#8230;..you could buy a prius, and solar panels to save on your home power costs and have effectively NO fuel costs at all&#8230;..</p>
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