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		<title>By: Solar &#38; Wind Energy Overview −Solar Love!</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-146816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solar &#38; Wind Energy Overview −Solar Love!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 00:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Gamechanging Vestas V164 Wind Turbine Continues Groundbreaking Development (8MW Wind Turbine!) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Gamechanging Vestas V164 Wind Turbine Continues Groundbreaking Development (8MW Wind Turbine!) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: PriSub</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-139759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PriSub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey Sebastien... how&#039;s life?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Sebastien&#8230; how&#8217;s life?</p>
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		<title>By: Sébastien DdC</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-137701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sébastien DdC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a guess, but between the speed of the helicopter and the wind, the loading on the blades may start to be too important to ensure proper control of the machine.

Another possibility is that this method would need to be certified, which manufacturers would only do if the business asks for it.

Finally, for an 80m long blade, the mass must approach maybe 40? 50 tonnes? (approximation based on http://www.upwind.eu/media/729/D3-4-3%20Cost%20Model%20Blade.pdf), which few helicopters (if any) can carry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a guess, but between the speed of the helicopter and the wind, the loading on the blades may start to be too important to ensure proper control of the machine.</p>
<p>Another possibility is that this method would need to be certified, which manufacturers would only do if the business asks for it.</p>
<p>Finally, for an 80m long blade, the mass must approach maybe 40? 50 tonnes? (approximation based on <a href="http://www.upwind.eu/media/729/D3-4-3%20Cost%20Model%20Blade.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.upwind.eu/media/729/D3-4-3%20Cost%20Model%20Blade.pdf</a>), which few helicopters (if any) can carry.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-136296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, seems like that&#039;s what happened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, seems like that&#8217;s what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: jonnyknight™</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonnyknight™]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My guess is the mfg facility is located at a port where the blade can be loaded directly onto a ship that delivers it to the off-shore site. I know Voith builds a specialty off-shore wind farm installation and service vessel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is the mfg facility is located at a port where the blade can be loaded directly onto a ship that delivers it to the off-shore site. I know Voith builds a specialty off-shore wind farm installation and service vessel.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When they haul tree trunks (and I&#039;m talking long and large diameter, really big firs and redwoods stripped of branches) they fly them vertically, not horizontal.  The issue would be whether the blades are too heavy to lift and how to hand them off to the turbine.

I would imagine that a crane could capture and do the final positioning. But I&#039;m just guessing....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they haul tree trunks (and I&#8217;m talking long and large diameter, really big firs and redwoods stripped of branches) they fly them vertically, not horizontal.  The issue would be whether the blades are too heavy to lift and how to hand them off to the turbine.</p>
<p>I would imagine that a crane could capture and do the final positioning. But I&#8217;m just guessing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brak</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a good question.  I do know that it would be massively expensive to do here as I don&#039;t think we have the heavy lift capacity.  And the length of a blade would make it awkward to transport by helicopter.  But why they can&#039;t do it in places that have experience with that sort of thing, I don&#039;t know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good question.  I do know that it would be massively expensive to do here as I don&#8217;t think we have the heavy lift capacity.  And the length of a blade would make it awkward to transport by helicopter.  But why they can&#8217;t do it in places that have experience with that sort of thing, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gosh, I thought we were exchanging &quot;funnies&quot;.

I could see someone wearing Snoopy goggles flying the complete turbine into place....

On a more serious note I do wonder why onshore blades are not flown to the site at times.  We had a local wind farm curtailed because a land route would have meant moving one or more historical houses.

Around here we use &quot;flying cranes&quot; regularly to lift massive tree trunks out of less accessible places.  One would think an hour of chopper time would be less expensive than moving buildings, taking down power poles, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, I thought we were exchanging &#8220;funnies&#8221;.</p>
<p>I could see someone wearing Snoopy goggles flying the complete turbine into place&#8230;.</p>
<p>On a more serious note I do wonder why onshore blades are not flown to the site at times.  We had a local wind farm curtailed because a land route would have meant moving one or more historical houses.</p>
<p>Around here we use &#8220;flying cranes&#8221; regularly to lift massive tree trunks out of less accessible places.  One would think an hour of chopper time would be less expensive than moving buildings, taking down power poles, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brak</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, no, I don&#039;t think using the wind turbine blades as a rather large helicoper rotor would be practical.  That said, if one wanted to build them on land, it would be possible to build a mobile factory to cast the blades on site.  Just how practical that would be, I don&#039;t know.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no, I don&#8217;t think using the wind turbine blades as a rather large helicoper rotor would be practical.  That said, if one wanted to build them on land, it would be possible to build a mobile factory to cast the blades on site.  Just how practical that would be, I don&#8217;t know.  </p>
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		<title>By: 36 MW of Vestas Turbines Headed to France - CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[36 MW of Vestas Turbines Headed to France - CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] has its game face on these days, with a powerful 8MW turbine in the works and 68 MW of new turbines set for a wind farm in the UK. The latest news is that [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] has its game face on these days, with a powerful 8MW turbine in the works and 68 MW of new turbines set for a wind farm in the UK. The latest news is that [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You thinking that they can fly the turbine into place?   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You thinking that they can fly the turbine into place?   </p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brak</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, one helicopter, using the windmill blades as a very large rotor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, one helicopter, using the windmill blades as a very large rotor.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill_Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill_Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the first link: &quot;[On 2 October], Vestas announced that the turbine capacity of the V164 has been increased to 8 MW.&quot;

Stats: http://www.vestas.com/en/wind-power-plants/procurement/turbine-overview/v164-8.0-mw-offshore.aspx#/vestas-univers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the first link: &#8220;[On 2 October], Vestas announced that the turbine capacity of the V164 has been increased to 8 MW.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stats: <a href="http://www.vestas.com/en/wind-power-plants/procurement/turbine-overview/v164-8.0-mw-offshore.aspx#/vestas-univers" rel="nofollow">http://www.vestas.com/en/wind-power-plants/procurement/turbine-overview/v164-8.0-mw-offshore.aspx#/vestas-univers</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure that the manufacturing price of this turbine is a closely guarded secret. We&#039;ll have to wait to see it used in projects before we get an idea of the kWh price...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that the manufacturing price of this turbine is a closely guarded secret. We&#8217;ll have to wait to see it used in projects before we get an idea of the kWh price&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dcard88</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135518</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dcard88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 helicopters]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 helicopters</p>
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		<title>By: tibor strausz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tibor strausz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[any idea about the Kwh price for electricity of this wind turbine?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any idea about the Kwh price for electricity of this wind turbine?</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! The first 8MW turbine... I&#039;ve been waiting for this for a long time... fantastic news!

They must&#039;ve squeezed an additional megawatt of power out of the V-164, since the video press release I saw a few months ago clearly showed this turbine being 7MW...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! The first 8MW turbine&#8230; I&#8217;ve been waiting for this for a long time&#8230; fantastic news!</p>
<p>They must&#8217;ve squeezed an additional megawatt of power out of the V-164, since the video press release I saw a few months ago clearly showed this turbine being 7MW&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/03/gamechanging-vestas-v164-turbine-continues-groundbreaking-development-8mw-wind-turbine/#comment-135438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep - it&#039;s an offshore turbine only. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; it&#8217;s an offshore turbine only. </p>
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		<title>By: dynamo.joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dynamo.joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you deliver an 80m blade to a construction site?  Is this for off-shore only?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you deliver an 80m blade to a construction site?  Is this for off-shore only?</p>
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