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	<title>Comments on: Where&#8217;s the Clean Energy Stimulus? Q2 a Record Quarter for US Solar Market</title>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-133081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, way to slide into a diff argument.

seriously, look at renewable growth around the world. compare it to nuclear growth. it&#039;s not a match.

another country i didn&#039;t mention above is Brazil (5th largest in the world). 80% of contracts in a recent power auction were for wind power projects: http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/22/80-of-contracts-in-latest-brazil-power-auction-are-wind-power/ 
is it going nuclear? nope. why not? wind is the cheapest option around. solar beats retail electricity prices. nuclear is expensive, slow to start up (so inefficient to shut down), and has serious risks that come with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, way to slide into a diff argument.</p>
<p>seriously, look at renewable growth around the world. compare it to nuclear growth. it&#8217;s not a match.</p>
<p>another country i didn&#8217;t mention above is Brazil (5th largest in the world). 80% of contracts in a recent power auction were for wind power projects: <a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/22/80-of-contracts-in-latest-brazil-power-auction-are-wind-power/" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/22/80-of-contracts-in-latest-brazil-power-auction-are-wind-power/</a><br />
is it going nuclear? nope. why not? wind is the cheapest option around. solar beats retail electricity prices. nuclear is expensive, slow to start up (so inefficient to shut down), and has serious risks that come with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-133078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[predrag, you&#039;re way off the mark, unfortunately.

first of all, China is going full speed ahead, in general. it has increased its 2015 solar PV target in the past year and a half from 5 GW to 10 GW to 20 GW to 40 GW. pretty huge changes. meanwhile, it&#039;s nuclear targets are getting pushed further and further into the future. wonder why?

it&#039;s also installing a ton of wind, btw.

the UK has a very conservative government in place right now that i&#039;m sure has strong ties to rich folks connected to the nuclear lobby.

France has stepped off the nuclear gas pedal and is refocusing on renewables.

please, get your arguments straight before confusing our readers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>predrag, you&#8217;re way off the mark, unfortunately.</p>
<p>first of all, China is going full speed ahead, in general. it has increased its 2015 solar PV target in the past year and a half from 5 GW to 10 GW to 20 GW to 40 GW. pretty huge changes. meanwhile, it&#8217;s nuclear targets are getting pushed further and further into the future. wonder why?</p>
<p>it&#8217;s also installing a ton of wind, btw.</p>
<p>the UK has a very conservative government in place right now that i&#8217;m sure has strong ties to rich folks connected to the nuclear lobby.</p>
<p>France has stepped off the nuclear gas pedal and is refocusing on renewables.</p>
<p>please, get your arguments straight before confusing our readers.</p>
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		<title>By: predrag raos</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-132548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[predrag raos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good night.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-132500</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think the countries listed contain 95% of the world&#039;s population then you bring the numbers.  I&#039;m not your research assistant.

And, thanks for the wish.  My day is being very sweet so far....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think the countries listed contain 95% of the world&#8217;s population then you bring the numbers.  I&#8217;m not your research assistant.</p>
<p>And, thanks for the wish.  My day is being very sweet so far&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: predrag raos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[predrag raos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said, if US is 5% of humanity, we live in 20-nation world. Congratulations!
USA is 5% of humanity, and humanity is head count. Otherwise you could compare nuclear China with green Vatican. (Pope Benedict installs PV after refusing AP1000.) Now count population in the nations listed and divide with the total.
And now, seriously. If we disagree, but are both in honest search of truth, any discussion, even very spirited, makes sense. However, if we try just to fool the oponent, then it&#039;s a fool&#039;s errand. Have a nice day!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, if US is 5% of humanity, we live in 20-nation world. Congratulations!<br />
USA is 5% of humanity, and humanity is head count. Otherwise you could compare nuclear China with green Vatican. (Pope Benedict installs PV after refusing AP1000.) Now count population in the nations listed and divide with the total.<br />
And now, seriously. If we disagree, but are both in honest search of truth, any discussion, even very spirited, makes sense. However, if we try just to fool the oponent, then it&#8217;s a fool&#8217;s errand. Have a nice day!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-132491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Countries with nuclear plants under construction

China (26)
Russia (11)
India (7)
Republic of Korea (3)

Two each -
Slovakian Republic
Pakistan
Ukraine
Taiwan
Brazil

One each -
Argentina
Brazil
Finland
France
USA

Fourteen countries currently building nuclear reactors.  One
hundred ninety-six countries.

14 / 196 * 100 =  95%

Gosh, thanks for stetting us green idiots straight.  We were thinking that the correct answer was 7%.  Damn, are we so very stupid....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Countries with nuclear plants under construction</p>
<p>China (26)<br />
Russia (11)<br />
India (7)<br />
Republic of Korea (3)</p>
<p>Two each &#8211;<br />
Slovakian Republic<br />
Pakistan<br />
Ukraine<br />
Taiwan<br />
Brazil</p>
<p>One each &#8211;<br />
Argentina<br />
Brazil<br />
Finland<br />
France<br />
USA</p>
<p>Fourteen countries currently building nuclear reactors.  One<br />
hundred ninety-six countries.</p>
<p>14 / 196 * 100 =  95%</p>
<p>Gosh, thanks for stetting us green idiots straight.  We were thinking that the correct answer was 7%.  Damn, are we so very stupid&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: predrag raos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[predrag raos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No demonstration in nukes building countries. They are maybe techocratic, but not ruled by hysteric mobs crazed by superstitious fears prodded by special interests of Big Oil and Big Coal, enthusiasticaly supported by useful idiots in the green movement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No demonstration in nukes building countries. They are maybe techocratic, but not ruled by hysteric mobs crazed by superstitious fears prodded by special interests of Big Oil and Big Coal, enthusiasticaly supported by useful idiots in the green movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, you&#039;re right predrag.  The world is rushing to build new nuclear plants.  It&#039;s happening in 95% of the world&#039;s countries.  Nuclear is soaring and renewables are being abandoned by all but hysterical housewives. 
World economies are enjoying adjusting to the higher cost of electricity as they convert from cheaper energy sources to more expensive nuclear.  People in 95% of the world are celebrating in the streets from joy over paying more for electricity and having less money to feed their families.

How could we have missed those astounding, and so obvious, facts?

Thanks, predrag, you&#039;ve impressed us all....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, you&#8217;re right predrag.  The world is rushing to build new nuclear plants.  It&#8217;s happening in 95% of the world&#8217;s countries.  Nuclear is soaring and renewables are being abandoned by all but hysterical housewives.<br />
World economies are enjoying adjusting to the higher cost of electricity as they convert from cheaper energy sources to more expensive nuclear.  People in 95% of the world are celebrating in the streets from joy over paying more for electricity and having less money to feed their families.</p>
<p>How could we have missed those astounding, and so obvious, facts?</p>
<p>Thanks, predrag, you&#8217;ve impressed us all&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: predrag raos</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-132485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[predrag raos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I am fully aware what happens in USA, but you are obviously at a loss when it comes to what happens in the rest, i.e. 95% of world. On top of that, you obviously consulted Queen Anne (the one who died). Antinuclear hysteria is subsiding, cold heads prevail. Experts are taking over, housewives go watch their soap operas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am fully aware what happens in USA, but you are obviously at a loss when it comes to what happens in the rest, i.e. 95% of world. On top of that, you obviously consulted Queen Anne (the one who died). Antinuclear hysteria is subsiding, cold heads prevail. Experts are taking over, housewives go watch their soap operas.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-132167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[March 2011

&quot;China has suspended approval for new nuclear power stations following the accident at Japan&#039;s Fukushima Daiichi plant.

It will also carry out checks at existing reactors and those under construction.&quot;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12769392
China seems to be ready to resume its nuclear program but I&#039;ve seen no notification that it has happened yet.

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&quot;China has increased its national goals for solar deployment, with the National Energy Administration (NEA) calling for 21 GW of solar electric capacity and 400 million square meters of solar thermal collector area by the end of 2015.&quot;
 http://www.energetica-international.com/news/china-increases-solar-targets-to-21-gw-of-electric 
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Chernobyl deaths...

&quot;On the death toll of the accident, the report states that twenty-eight emergency workers (&quot;liquidators&quot;) died from acute radiation syndrome including beta burns  and 15 patients died from thyroid cancer in the following years, and it roughly estimated that cancer deaths caused by Chernobyl may reach a total of about 4,000&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Human_impact

Luckily for thousands of Russians we can treat some of the cancers that will be produced and hold the Chernobyl death level under 5,000.


We are not facing a &#039;coal or nuclear&#039; decision.  That is a false dichotomy thrown up by the nuclear industry.  We are clearly moving to a grid supplied by a mix of renewables and natural gas.  Hopefully we&#039;ll be seeing new storage coming on line soon so that we can reduce the role of natural gas.

Sorry, predrag, that nuclear industry propaganda just does not fly here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>March 2011</p>
<p>&#8220;China has suspended approval for new nuclear power stations following the accident at Japan&#8217;s Fukushima Daiichi plant.</p>
<p>It will also carry out checks at existing reactors and those under construction.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12769392" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12769392</a><br />
China seems to be ready to resume its nuclear program but I&#8217;ve seen no notification that it has happened yet.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;China has increased its national goals for solar deployment, with the National Energy Administration (NEA) calling for 21 GW of solar electric capacity and 400 million square meters of solar thermal collector area by the end of 2015.&#8221;<br />
 <a href="http://www.energetica-international.com/news/china-increases-solar-targets-to-21-gw-of-electric" rel="nofollow">http://www.energetica-international.com/news/china-increases-solar-targets-to-21-gw-of-electric</a><br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>Chernobyl deaths&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;On the death toll of the accident, the report states that twenty-eight emergency workers (&#8220;liquidators&#8221;) died from acute radiation syndrome including beta burns  and 15 patients died from thyroid cancer in the following years, and it roughly estimated that cancer deaths caused by Chernobyl may reach a total of about 4,000&#8243;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Human_impact" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Human_impact</a></p>
<p>Luckily for thousands of Russians we can treat some of the cancers that will be produced and hold the Chernobyl death level under 5,000.</p>
<p>We are not facing a &#8216;coal or nuclear&#8217; decision.  That is a false dichotomy thrown up by the nuclear industry.  We are clearly moving to a grid supplied by a mix of renewables and natural gas.  Hopefully we&#8217;ll be seeing new storage coming on line soon so that we can reduce the role of natural gas.</p>
<p>Sorry, predrag, that nuclear industry propaganda just does not fly here.</p>
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		<title>By: predrag raos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[predrag raos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are grossly missinformed. China just reassessed its nuc program, switching to more advanced but less proved reactors  (AP1000). For them Fuku was a definitive proof of safety of nuc power, as it was. France turning to wind is pure demagoguery. Russian love with atoms has nothing to do with regime, the democratic France and Sweden came to even more nuclear solution. SSSR in fact generated lower share of its power by nukes than USA.  If you &quot;ignore the risks, ignore the people&quot; you&#039;ll ignore the nukes, the safest way to generate power. Chernobil took about 100 lives. The equivalent coal-fired plant kills several hundreds of people annually in regular operation. Fukushima didn&#039;t kill anybody, but unecessary evacuations prompted by irational, superstitious fear, killed up to 900 people. Nukes are safe and clean, greens kill by spreading panic. If the planet goes to hell, it will be doomed thanks to well-meaning but ignorant environmentalists manipulated by Big Coal and Big Oil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are grossly missinformed. China just reassessed its nuc program, switching to more advanced but less proved reactors  (AP1000). For them Fuku was a definitive proof of safety of nuc power, as it was. France turning to wind is pure demagoguery. Russian love with atoms has nothing to do with regime, the democratic France and Sweden came to even more nuclear solution. SSSR in fact generated lower share of its power by nukes than USA.  If you &#8220;ignore the risks, ignore the people&#8221; you&#8217;ll ignore the nukes, the safest way to generate power. Chernobil took about 100 lives. The equivalent coal-fired plant kills several hundreds of people annually in regular operation. Fukushima didn&#8217;t kill anybody, but unecessary evacuations prompted by irational, superstitious fear, killed up to 900 people. Nukes are safe and clean, greens kill by spreading panic. If the planet goes to hell, it will be doomed thanks to well-meaning but ignorant environmentalists manipulated by Big Coal and Big Oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[predrag, you&#039;re getting a bit unhinged, I&#039;m afraid.

France is installing a lot of wind and solar.  The UK is not likely to build much, if any, new nuclear.  China stopped approving new nuclear plants after Fukushima melted down, they might restart the program but what they have done is to greatly accelerate wind and solar installation.

The citizens of Germany lived with Chernobyl blowing up on their doorstop. They live with continued radiation from that meltdown.  They have a lot of reactors built by the same USSR regime and they simply don&#039;t see a need to live with those risks when there are very good alternatives.

Your opinion seems to be, &quot;Ignore the risk.  Ignore the people.&quot;.

That does not work very well in countries which have some degree of self-government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>predrag, you&#8217;re getting a bit unhinged, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>France is installing a lot of wind and solar.  The UK is not likely to build much, if any, new nuclear.  China stopped approving new nuclear plants after Fukushima melted down, they might restart the program but what they have done is to greatly accelerate wind and solar installation.</p>
<p>The citizens of Germany lived with Chernobyl blowing up on their doorstop. They live with continued radiation from that meltdown.  They have a lot of reactors built by the same USSR regime and they simply don&#8217;t see a need to live with those risks when there are very good alternatives.</p>
<p>Your opinion seems to be, &#8220;Ignore the risk.  Ignore the people.&#8221;.</p>
<p>That does not work very well in countries which have some degree of self-government.</p>
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		<title>By: Who&#039;s Going Solar? 10 of the US&#039; Largest Companies (New List: Top 10 Commercial Solar Users) - CleanTechnica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Who&#039;s Going Solar? 10 of the US&#039; Largest Companies (New List: Top 10 Commercial Solar Users) - CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 5,600 solar companies, it&#8217;s clear solar power is an important industry today. And more than twice as much solar was installed in Q2 2012 than Q2 2011 in the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 5,600 solar companies, it&#8217;s clear solar power is an important industry today. And more than twice as much solar was installed in Q2 2012 than Q2 2011 in the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: predrag raos</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-132078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[predrag raos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In France, China, UK, the government asked ingineers what to do. They answered: &quot;Go nuclear,&quot; In US, Germany, the government asked the street. Then housewives started screaming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In France, China, UK, the government asked ingineers what to do. They answered: &#8220;Go nuclear,&#8221; In US, Germany, the government asked the street. Then housewives started screaming.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Others are also struck with utter nonsense.


&quot; useful life of PV is about 20 years. &quot;


The oldest PV installation is now over 30 years old and going strong.  

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$5/watt for nuclear is overnight cost.  Due to the number of years that it takes to build them realized cost is roughly double that cost.  

--

Installing PV on your roof and using that electricity to charge your car makes sense to me.  


Let&#039;s assume you drive 12,000 miles a year and live in a 4.5 avg solar hour part of the country (not the sunny part).  You&#039;d need about 2.25kW of solar on your roof.  After subsidies you could do that for about $4,500 in some places.


For the next 40 years you&#039;d be driving for a penny a mile.  And that price would be locked down for as long as your system lives.


A penny a mile in a 50 mpg gasmobile would require that you find $0.50/gallon gas for the next 40 years.  For that you&#039;d need the way back machine permanently set for about 1965.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Others are also struck with utter nonsense.</p>
<p>&#8221; useful life of PV is about 20 years. &#8221;</p>
<p>The oldest PV installation is now over 30 years old and going strong.  </p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>$5/watt for nuclear is overnight cost.  Due to the number of years that it takes to build them realized cost is roughly double that cost.  </p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Installing PV on your roof and using that electricity to charge your car makes sense to me.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume you drive 12,000 miles a year and live in a 4.5 avg solar hour part of the country (not the sunny part).  You&#8217;d need about 2.25kW of solar on your roof.  After subsidies you could do that for about $4,500 in some places.</p>
<p>For the next 40 years you&#8217;d be driving for a penny a mile.  And that price would be locked down for as long as your system lives.</p>
<p>A penny a mile in a 50 mpg gasmobile would require that you find $0.50/gallon gas for the next 40 years.  For that you&#8217;d need the way back machine permanently set for about 1965.</p>
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		<title>By: predrag raos</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/09/10/wheres-the-clean-energy-stimulus-q2-a-record-quarter-for-us-solar-market/#comment-131743</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$5.64 per rated watt makes about $25-30 per average watt. Compare last figure to $5/W for nukes in US and $1.5/W in China, producing power on demand. In addition to that, nukes last  60-80 years, and with some upgrading could easily outlive a century, while useful life of PV is about 20 years. Their cost could be justified only by the fact that PV generally produce power in peak hours. To use it for charging e-cars just because you have them instaled on your roof, as people do, strikes me as utter nonsense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$5.64 per rated watt makes about $25-30 per average watt. Compare last figure to $5/W for nukes in US and $1.5/W in China, producing power on demand. In addition to that, nukes last  60-80 years, and with some upgrading could easily outlive a century, while useful life of PV is about 20 years. Their cost could be justified only by the fact that PV generally produce power in peak hours. To use it for charging e-cars just because you have them instaled on your roof, as people do, strikes me as utter nonsense.</p>
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