Comments on: Volt-Like Cadillac on the Way

By: Ronald Brak

Ronald Brak — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 07:47:00 +0000

If you look to my first post in this thread, you’ll see I wrote, “Actually I can’t think of any countries that hate the US. Some get a little peeved at times, but you’ll be hard pressed to find a country where the majority of people respond positively to the question, ‘Do you hate the United States?’ Perhaps you are thinking of certain specific sub and trans-national groups?”

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:40:00 +0000

“When’s the last time the government of Iran sent us flowers?
If you look inside some of the Middle East oil-producing companies you’ll find significant numbers of people who hate the US. ”

What do you mean by “country of Iran”?
The government? All the citizens of Iran? A majority of the citizens of Iran? Some of the citizens of Iran?

By: Ronald Brak

Ronald Brak — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:05:00 +0000

So you are saying that the country of Iran does not hate the US?

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:27:00 +0000

” government of Iran ”
” significant numbers of people ” =/= majority

By: Ronald Brak

Ronald Brak — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:15:00 +0000

What do I mean by do not spread lies? I mean, do not suggest that Iran is a country that hates the US when the vast majority of people there do not. Now perhaps that’s not what you are suggesting, but it appears that way to me.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 03:39:00 +0000

What the crap do you mean by “Do not spread lies.”?

Are you saying that the US is universally loved in the Middle East?

Or are you saying that Australians would love to have a Russian invasion?

By: Ronald Brak

Ronald Brak — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:09:00 +0000

So you are saying that the country of Iran doesn not hate the US?

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:43:00 +0000

” government of Iran ”

” significant numbers of people ” =/= majority

By: Ronald Brak

Ronald Brak — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:36:00 +0000

Go talk to some actual Iranians. Do not be misled by lies. Do not spread lies.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 14:31:00 +0000

When’s the last time the government of Iran sent us flowers?

If you look inside some of the Middle East oil-producing companies you’ll find significant numbers of people who hate the US. They hate our military presence in their countries, which is understandable. They hate that we support/prop up national governments that they hate.

Our oil need has caused us to get involved in Middle Eastern politics at an inappropriate level. We fought two oil wars there and still have troops stationed there. Plop a Russian (as an example) army down in the middle of the US or Australia and see how popular that would be with the locals.

By: Ronald Brak

Ronald Brak — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:57:00 +0000

Actually I can’t think of any countries that hate the US. Some get a little peeved at times, but you’ll be hard pressed to find a country where the majority of people respond positively to the question, “Do you hate the United States?” Perhaps you are thinking of certain specific sub and trans-national groups?

By: Zachary Shahan

Zachary Shahan — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:42:00 +0000

nice summary.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:03:00 +0000

How cute.

You base your argument on comparing a compact economy car with a luxury car and try to spin that into logic. You sure your name isn’t Rumpelstiltskin?

Chevy Cruze gets good mileage. 42 MPG. Burning $4/gallon gas that’s $0.095/mile.

EVs use about 0.3kWh/mile. At $0.12/kWh the Cad can drive for $0.036/mile in electric mode.

Now don’t worry yourself too much about purchase prices. They will come down. You just keep on paying those big monthly gas bills and keeping the money flowing to countries that hate us.

By: Stan

Stan — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:11:00 +0000

Honestly….35 miles per charge….for $40K? Ok, so, (very) optimistically, a Caddy with a 50-60 mile range for $60K?
Folks, let me tell you what’s really going on here….
GM makes about $2000 on a Cruze…..it’s a $20k +/- car…. but on a $40k car, they make at least TWICE as much……this little folly has then cost the taxpayers about $5k in rebate money, and created somewhat near the same pollution from generating the power to charge the cars as the gas would….because today’s engines are VERY clean….15 or more years ago, no…but this is now.
AND, I haven’t even included the cost of the onboard generator, or the approx $3 to $5 per overnight charge for the battery.
As I said earlier, this is nothing but a folly….instead of his new suit of clothes, the Emperor now has a new car.
With your $15k premium cost for the diference between the 2 cars, AFTER the rebate…..thats 333 tanks of gas @ $45 per tanks…..that’s
6.5 years or so of fuel…..and, as we now know…..unless we paid cash, we have screwed ourselves further, by paying interest on the increased price…..you would have paid no interest on your ongoing fuel expenses.

By: Captivation

Captivation — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 05:11:00 +0000

Depends on the trunk space. Those temple garments are even bulkier than they look.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:56:00 +0000

Think Ann will buy a few for their houses?

By: Captivation

Captivation — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:54:00 +0000

Wow, a great car from a company Obama saved, powered by the renewable energy that Obama delivered.