As for waterwheels, I am okay with Mitt and Dubya, but again, Obama has his own facts wnd figures.He clearly refuses to export, for example.

Still no engineering background. Sort of like Obama never having run a lemonade stand or a garage sale.

There is little extra wind and hydro. It does not occur regularly enough and in an adequately localized area to support a hydrogen plant. Extra hydro is generally in the spring. Extra wind is generally in the spring.

The fact that you have an “idea” and can’t get anyone to take your idea seriously, then spend energy lashing out at public figures who don’t recognize your genius, well, a certain odor starts to creep into the conversation….

There is already excess wind and hydro that Obama refuses to use to generate hydrogen, which could supplement natural gas u to 20%.

And not only do waterwheels work, they would generate electricity more than 90% cheaper than wind or solar ever could, but like Harry Reid’s taxes, Obama not only has his own facts and figures but will not disclose anything. Water flows 24 7 365 and is not only 865 times heavier than air but can be scaled up.

What engineering school did you go to?

Use wind,solar, tidal and wave when they present. Fill in with storage and use dispatchable load to cut demand when supply is low.

I didn’t even bring biogas into the mix. Sewage/feedlot/landfill methane is a carbon neutral fill-in source.

We are in the process of converting some existing dams to electricity producers. The federal government has conducted studies to find which other dams might be converted and where we could install run of the river generation.

“Waterwheels”, I doubt there is much interest in waterwheels, but developments are being made in water turbine technology. Clearly someone is interested in this part of the hardware.

Hydrogen – there is a tremendous amount of research being carried out how to better generate hydrogen, how to store it, and how to build a better fuel cell.

Your claim is simply 100% incorrect.

No one is taking your submission seriously? Perhaps you didn’t get your facts together for that either.

You certainly didn’t get your facts together when you inaccurately claim that PBO is catering to foreign despots. You might want to take a look at Libya and Syria to check your facts. Or how he’s dealing with Putin.

Sorry, you’re a fount of misinformation….

I’ve explained to you why EVs/PHEVs on the grid will raise those limits.

I’ve told you about what is in the pipeline in terms of large scale battery storage. And how we could covert existing dams to pump-up storage.

I didn’t bring dispatchable load into the conversation, but that’s another way that the grid deals with variability in supply/demand. That facility will grow as the grid gets smarter.

There was a very interesting study in which they balanced out the variability in a large solar array by linking output to the air circulation in a large building. They were able to keep supply/use level without the building occupants even noticing any change in air flow.

We do not charge the LCOE of nuclear with the 25GW of storage we built to carry its excess capacity forward to peak demand times.

You’re making absolute statements such as “(t)here will inevitably be some type of NG backup needed that will run idle” and “nuclear makes sense as a non GHG baseload” with too few facts under control.

We can fill in for wind and solar with dispatchable hydro and nuclear has a higher CO2 footprint than both wind and solar.

How do you make money selling into a market when your competition can sell for less than you?

‘Splain that to me….

I’ll simplify it for you. Wind, solar and natural gas produce electricity cheaper than nuclear can.

In the best of all worlds we would not be considering natural gas because it adds to our GHG problems, but the world is not ready to deal with that problem yet. The world will make its decision on cost. A hunk of wind, a hunk of solar, and a hunk of NG makes for 24/365 power at less than the cost of nuclear.

Where does more expensive nuclear make any money?

We might store some – and that would be dispatchable.

We’re also building thermal solar with molten salts heat storage. That will be dispatchable.

Take a look at the Aquion and MIT liquid metal battery technologies. Prices promise to be very cheap and there are no environmental issues.

Here – I’ll post it again – http://en.openei.org/apps/TCDB/

You have not explained how the owner of a nuclear plant can make money competing against NG, wind and solar. Unless you can explain how then you are putting your money on the nose of a nag that may not make it out of the starting gate….

Managing the grid without batteries is more difficult. Grid managers have to keep something spinning, such as unloaded hyrdo turbines. Put a hunk of batteries on the grid and the job becomes a lot easier. The system gets a signal that batteries are being used and there will be time to decide whether or not to start warming up a gas turbine. 15 minutes of battery storage would make grid management much easier. That would give plenty of time to bring a gas turbine up to speed.

I understand that coal is now below 35% so NG might have move above 30%….

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OK, you build a nuclear plant. In order to break even you have to sell your power for 15 cents. (Use 12 cents if it makes you feel better.)

You have to sell for that price 24/365 (minus expected refueling time). You’ve got a great big loan to pay and a lot of capex to recover, can’t “dispatch” them.

Someone builds a wind farm in your area and starts producing power at 5 cents. Let’s say the wind produces strongly 50% of the time. You can’t shut down your costs so you have to drop your price to less that of wind in order to get wind to curtail. Half the time you will be loosing 11 cents per kWh.

In order to make up that 11 cent loss you will have to sell the other 50% of the time at 26 cents.

Solar comes along at 15 cents (current price) and grabs another 25% of the market. Now you’ve got to make up the loss to wind and the loss to solar in only 25% of the available hours. You’ve got to sell for 40(?) cents.

Did I mention that natural gas produces for about 5 cents?

Now, explain to your potential investors how you are going to make any money at all.

We’re listening…..