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		<title>By: REAF</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-179185</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Harcourt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-124011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Harcourt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes it&#039;s true, that&#039;s how I justify my own data management, but...

I&#039;m not sure how deep deep storage is, my own tweets (hardly followed by anyone) appear instantaneously and in full?

We maybe need to think of the carbon footprint issue as well as the cost?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it&#8217;s true, that&#8217;s how I justify my own data management, but&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how deep deep storage is, my own tweets (hardly followed by anyone) appear instantaneously and in full?</p>
<p>We maybe need to think of the carbon footprint issue as well as the cost?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-123967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hard drives are dirt cheap.  Most likely 90% of what is stored goes quickly to &#039;deep storage&#039; on drives that are rarely activated. But it&#039;s there if we should want it for any future reason.  

It&#039;s probably a lot cheaper to store stuff than to separate the &quot;should keep&quot; from the &quot;no reason to keep&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard drives are dirt cheap.  Most likely 90% of what is stored goes quickly to &#8216;deep storage&#8217; on drives that are rarely activated. But it&#8217;s there if we should want it for any future reason.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably a lot cheaper to store stuff than to separate the &#8220;should keep&#8221; from the &#8220;no reason to keep&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-123953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, i know, i really wonder about all the useless crap stored for no reason.

also wonder about the email boxes and Facebook pages of the deceased... which just keep on collecting info]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i know, i really wonder about all the useless crap stored for no reason.</p>
<p>also wonder about the email boxes and Facebook pages of the deceased&#8230; which just keep on collecting info</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harcourt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-123946</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Harcourt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting and worrying! 

Should we not be thinking about what we are storing? I suspect there are piles of duplication ( multiple shared posts ), now irrelevant information ( eg up to 2000 posts a second on goals during the World Cup in South Africa in 2010), stored personal emails, useless &quot;yeah&quot; comments and aborted social communications

We used to write this kind of stuff on paper, which was burnt, composted or piled up at little cost! Not stored at high cost for an undetermined time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and worrying! </p>
<p>Should we not be thinking about what we are storing? I suspect there are piles of duplication ( multiple shared posts ), now irrelevant information ( eg up to 2000 posts a second on goals during the World Cup in South Africa in 2010), stored personal emails, useless &#8220;yeah&#8221; comments and aborted social communications</p>
<p>We used to write this kind of stuff on paper, which was burnt, composted or piled up at little cost! Not stored at high cost for an undetermined time!</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-123000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Corrected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: gavinhudson</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-122925</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gavinhudson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite right. Apologies for the mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite right. Apologies for the mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-122753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;assuming 20.3 petawatts as the world’s annual electrical energy consumption&quot;

Please get the units right! 1 PW is a unit of power, it is the rate of production at a certain momnt in time. 

You mean 20.3 PWh, petawatthour, which is a unit of energy. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;assuming 20.3 petawatts as the world’s annual electrical energy consumption&#8221;</p>
<p>Please get the units right! 1 PW is a unit of power, it is the rate of production at a certain momnt in time. </p>
<p>You mean 20.3 PWh, petawatthour, which is a unit of energy. </p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-122741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s an interesting observation.  Paper use is way down.  Fewer newspaper, fewer magazines, fewer catalogs.  

And I would guess less office printing.  (I certainly print far, far less than I used to.)  As people get more comfortable with the safety of digital storing there&#039;s go to be less hard copy backup happening.

Pulp mills have been shut down.  Fewer tons of paper hauled from place to place. 

Wonder what the energy savings has been?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting observation.  Paper use is way down.  Fewer newspaper, fewer magazines, fewer catalogs.  </p>
<p>And I would guess less office printing.  (I certainly print far, far less than I used to.)  As people get more comfortable with the safety of digital storing there&#8217;s go to be less hard copy backup happening.</p>
<p>Pulp mills have been shut down.  Fewer tons of paper hauled from place to place. </p>
<p>Wonder what the energy savings has been?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Johnston</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-122740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Johnston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think using more energy to run Internet now compared to using more paper is a short term trade off in order to reduce overall paper consumption use. Although ideas of a truly paperless society are likely impossible, I think it is possible that we will see a sharp reduction in paper consumption very soon. We have seen lots of progress in recent years, thanks to the Internet.

As for energy use for the Internet, with the commercialization of renewable energy in the past 10-15 years, is making it more affordable, will enhance energy efficiency. That will be the boon needed to keep energy use clean for running the Internet. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think using more energy to run Internet now compared to using more paper is a short term trade off in order to reduce overall paper consumption use. Although ideas of a truly paperless society are likely impossible, I think it is possible that we will see a sharp reduction in paper consumption very soon. We have seen lots of progress in recent years, thanks to the Internet.</p>
<p>As for energy use for the Internet, with the commercialization of renewable energy in the past 10-15 years, is making it more affordable, will enhance energy efficiency. That will be the boon needed to keep energy use clean for running the Internet. </p>
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		<title>By: jburt56</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/06/01/how-much-energy-does-the-internet-use/#comment-122702</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jburt56]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No worries here long term.  Lower power stuff is well on its way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries here long term.  Lower power stuff is well on its way.</p>
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