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	<title>Comments on: World&#8217;s First Carbon-Neutral Higher-Speed Locomotive</title>
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		<title>By: Steamer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-141851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steamer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1: Too much maintenance, the metal tubes in the boilers have to be replaced periodically, etc.

This was due to corrosion caused by feedwater. Porta Treatment for feedwater is proven to reduce boiler maintenance to twice a year washouts, with replacements only necessary after several decades. This is a non-existent problem.

2: The costs associated with running this will be high...water tanks, fuel depots, etc.


Very good point indeed. However, water tanks and fuel depots are a fixed cost, i.e., the railway has to bear them only once. Someone named John T. Rhodes actually worked out this cost in his PhD thesis (really) and found out that coal-fired locomotives can recover this cost in ~15 years, which is low compared to the life of an average locomotive, and nothing on a railco&#039;s timescale (several decades/centuries). How? Because coal is cheaper than diesel. Very, very cheap. Biocoal is only slightly more expensive, but still very much cheaper than diesel. The same John Rhodes is now a key person in CSR. That study did not take into account gains in efficiency to be had from the modern engineering side, which should *reduce* coal consumption.


I was doubtful about the project too, but seeing John Rhodes and Shaun McMahon&#039;s names on the roster in key positions gives me hope. Of course, there is no money there yet, so it may still fail, and that is a perpetual problem. But the other old problems are no more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1: Too much maintenance, the metal tubes in the boilers have to be replaced periodically, etc.</p>
<p>This was due to corrosion caused by feedwater. Porta Treatment for feedwater is proven to reduce boiler maintenance to twice a year washouts, with replacements only necessary after several decades. This is a non-existent problem.</p>
<p>2: The costs associated with running this will be high&#8230;water tanks, fuel depots, etc.</p>
<p>Very good point indeed. However, water tanks and fuel depots are a fixed cost, i.e., the railway has to bear them only once. Someone named John T. Rhodes actually worked out this cost in his PhD thesis (really) and found out that coal-fired locomotives can recover this cost in ~15 years, which is low compared to the life of an average locomotive, and nothing on a railco&#8217;s timescale (several decades/centuries). How? Because coal is cheaper than diesel. Very, very cheap. Biocoal is only slightly more expensive, but still very much cheaper than diesel. The same John Rhodes is now a key person in CSR. That study did not take into account gains in efficiency to be had from the modern engineering side, which should *reduce* coal consumption.</p>
<p>I was doubtful about the project too, but seeing John Rhodes and Shaun McMahon&#8217;s names on the roster in key positions gives me hope. Of course, there is no money there yet, so it may still fail, and that is a perpetual problem. But the other old problems are no more.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having ridden steam trains, I  wonder if they have figured out how to deal with the junk that comes out the smokestack?

The ones I&#039;ve ridden in China and India leave one filthy.  And the particulates can&#039;t be good for ones lungs....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having ridden steam trains, I  wonder if they have figured out how to deal with the junk that comes out the smokestack?</p>
<p>The ones I&#8217;ve ridden in China and India leave one filthy.  And the particulates can&#8217;t be good for ones lungs&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Breath on the Wind</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122458</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breath on the Wind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting.  I didn&#039;t realize that line was electrified.  In the US only a few passenger lines are electric.  I have seen a proposal to expand to more than 70% electrified freight liines in the US and also use the R/W for HVDC grid expansion doubling down on the land use.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.  I didn&#8217;t realize that line was electrified.  In the US only a few passenger lines are electric.  I have seen a proposal to expand to more than 70% electrified freight liines in the US and also use the R/W for HVDC grid expansion doubling down on the land use.  </p>
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		<title>By: Breath on the Wind</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breath on the Wind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be more efficient to ban all comments but &quot;Just say NO&quot; will probably prove to be the worst slogan in the history of the world.  It is no way to run a drug campaign, it is no way to run a political party and it probably won&#039;t work to silence another opinion.  

I don&#039;t agree with the hopelessness suggested in Stephen&#039;s tone but he makes his point and so I defend his right to express an opinion.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be more efficient to ban all comments but &#8220;Just say NO&#8221; will probably prove to be the worst slogan in the history of the world.  It is no way to run a drug campaign, it is no way to run a political party and it probably won&#8217;t work to silence another opinion.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the hopelessness suggested in Stephen&#8217;s tone but he makes his point and so I defend his right to express an opinion.  </p>
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		<title>By: Breath on the Wind</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122456</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breath on the Wind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carbon neutral is like saying a &quot;balanced budget.&quot;  Someone who only understands cash might say, &quot;Either you have money or you don&#039;t!&quot;    Is it &quot;funky math&quot; to earn $100 and plan to have the nails done for $50 ... a friend does them and you feel like you just saved $50 that can be applied to your mortgage?  (reduce the debt.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon neutral is like saying a &#8220;balanced budget.&#8221;  Someone who only understands cash might say, &#8220;Either you have money or you don&#8217;t!&#8221;    Is it &#8220;funky math&#8221; to earn $100 and plan to have the nails done for $50 &#8230; a friend does them and you feel like you just saved $50 that can be applied to your mortgage?  (reduce the debt.)</p>
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		<title>By: Breath on the Wind</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122455</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breath on the Wind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heather, you make some good points but it is based on bad information.  That reporter had it wrong.  The military might use a little PR by suggesting a &quot;green&quot; agenda, but their primary concern is strategic.  There is a concern about securing enough fuel supply when needed.  see  http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/19/us-military-and-a-critical-energy-alternative/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather, you make some good points but it is based on bad information.  That reporter had it wrong.  The military might use a little PR by suggesting a &#8220;green&#8221; agenda, but their primary concern is strategic.  There is a concern about securing enough fuel supply when needed.  see  <a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/19/us-military-and-a-critical-energy-alternative/" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/19/us-military-and-a-critical-energy-alternative/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sumner</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122451</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Sumner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hopefully, the boiler lagging (asbestos-used for insulation against heat loss) has already been addressed. I understand that Knott&#039;s Berry Farm, as well as Disneyland&#039;s California Park are using bio-fuel (used cooking oil) to fire the boilers on steam locomotives. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, the boiler lagging (asbestos-used for insulation against heat loss) has already been addressed. I understand that Knott&#8217;s Berry Farm, as well as Disneyland&#8217;s California Park are using bio-fuel (used cooking oil) to fire the boilers on steam locomotives. </p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa Carneiro</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122408</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanessa Carneiro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joshua I just read you are looking for an agent for your first book. Please visit the following website - www.zeloomedia.com - they can help you to get your book published. Good luck! By the way, very good article!. Vanessa Carneiro ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua I just read you are looking for an agent for your first book. Please visit the following website &#8211; <a href="http://www.zeloomedia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zeloomedia.com</a> &#8211; they can help you to get your book published. Good luck! By the way, very good article!. Vanessa Carneiro </p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122405</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just began reading a book on Siberia.  

The Trans-Siberian railway runs 9,288km/5,771miles, barely less than two complete trips from New Jersey to California on Interstate 80.  Trains run 24 hours a day with only 5 to 10 minutes between trains.

It&#039;s 100% electric.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just began reading a book on Siberia.  </p>
<p>The Trans-Siberian railway runs 9,288km/5,771miles, barely less than two complete trips from New Jersey to California on Interstate 80.  Trains run 24 hours a day with only 5 to 10 minutes between trains.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s 100% electric.</p>
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		<title>By: Breath on the Wind</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breath on the Wind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Electric locomotives have been providing high speed carbon free transportation on electrified lines for about 70 years.  It is a nice, attention grabbing headline but &quot;steam&quot; locomotive would be more descriptive.  

While using an old locomotive suggests a nice proof of concept, using an external combustion engine, there are more advanced engines like the quasi turbine that offers more efficiency with fewer moving parts.

There have been some challenges to the carbon benefits of biofuel where land must be cleared of existing vegetation or it is grown as a substitute for other crops.  Essentially you would have to grow biofuel crops where nothing was growing before to reap the full benefits.  

Certainly biofuel is an &quot;answer&quot; but a limited bridge solution.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric locomotives have been providing high speed carbon free transportation on electrified lines for about 70 years.  It is a nice, attention grabbing headline but &#8220;steam&#8221; locomotive would be more descriptive.  </p>
<p>While using an old locomotive suggests a nice proof of concept, using an external combustion engine, there are more advanced engines like the quasi turbine that offers more efficiency with fewer moving parts.</p>
<p>There have been some challenges to the carbon benefits of biofuel where land must be cleared of existing vegetation or it is grown as a substitute for other crops.  Essentially you would have to grow biofuel crops where nothing was growing before to reap the full benefits.  </p>
<p>Certainly biofuel is an &#8220;answer&#8221; but a limited bridge solution.   </p>
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		<title>By: Breath on the Wind</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122396</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breath on the Wind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Electric locomotives have been providing high speed carbon free transportation on electrified lines for about 70 years.  It is a nice, attention grabbing headline but &quot;steam&quot; locomotive would be more descriptive.  

While using an old locomotive suggests a nice proof of concept, using an external combustion engine, there are more advanced engines like the quasi turbine that offers more efficiency with fewer moving parts.

There have been some challenges to the carbon benefits of biofuel where land must be cleared of existing vegetation or it is grown as a substitute for other crops.  Essentially you would have to grow biofuel crops where nothing was growing before to reap the full benefits.  

Certainly biofuel is an &quot;answer&quot; but a limited bridge solution.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric locomotives have been providing high speed carbon free transportation on electrified lines for about 70 years.  It is a nice, attention grabbing headline but &#8220;steam&#8221; locomotive would be more descriptive.  </p>
<p>While using an old locomotive suggests a nice proof of concept, using an external combustion engine, there are more advanced engines like the quasi turbine that offers more efficiency with fewer moving parts.</p>
<p>There have been some challenges to the carbon benefits of biofuel where land must be cleared of existing vegetation or it is grown as a substitute for other crops.  Essentially you would have to grow biofuel crops where nothing was growing before to reap the full benefits.  </p>
<p>Certainly biofuel is an &#8220;answer&#8221; but a limited bridge solution.   </p>
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		<title>By: Ltb</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122380</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ltb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 14:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ As a train buff, I am happy to see someone is trying to re-think an old problem. But before anybody gets too excited, the reason steam technology died out in the first place is: 1: Too much maintenance, the metal tubes in the boilers have to be replaced periodically, etc. 2: The costs associated with running this will be high...water tanks, fuel depots, etc. I hope it works, but Im not too optimistic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> As a train buff, I am happy to see someone is trying to re-think an old problem. But before anybody gets too excited, the reason steam technology died out in the first place is: 1: Too much maintenance, the metal tubes in the boilers have to be replaced periodically, etc. 2: The costs associated with running this will be high&#8230;water tanks, fuel depots, etc. I hope it works, but Im not too optimistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudsm1000</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hudsm1000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[then lets ban all industry, science, and just to be safe all economic activity,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>then lets ban all industry, science, and just to be safe all economic activity,</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Dittoe</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Dittoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As is usually the case, the pathway to Hell is paved with good intentions. In case no one noticed, this article is completely misleading, &quot;World&#039;s first carbon-neutral higher-speed locomotive?&quot;

1. First of all, where did the iron/steel come from? Perhaps some naturally occurring iron source that will use a concert of wind, solar, geothermal, and/or hydroelectric energy to transform the raw ore to a useful steel. This is obviously just a minor oversight.
2. It is still on the drawing board. how can it be the World&#039;s first? Oops. UM thought of it first. My most-sincere apologies to the author.
3. Next, outside of an altered picture, how will the old paint (possibly toxic) be removed (sand blasting or chemically removed) and how will the new paint be manufactured. Just another toxic sacrifice that is necessary for the progession of novel idea.
4. What is to be accomplished if the product or technology is never or highly-unlikely to be used. Simply put, there is a risk/reward calculation that needs to be calculated. That would be a better article to publish. Else, just another exercise to spew more of that deadly carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
5. The only useful outcome that will be the knowledge obtained by the graduates. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As is usually the case, the pathway to Hell is paved with good intentions. In case no one noticed, this article is completely misleading, &#8220;World&#8217;s first carbon-neutral higher-speed locomotive?&#8221;</p>
<p>1. First of all, where did the iron/steel come from? Perhaps some naturally occurring iron source that will use a concert of wind, solar, geothermal, and/or hydroelectric energy to transform the raw ore to a useful steel. This is obviously just a minor oversight.<br />
2. It is still on the drawing board. how can it be the World&#8217;s first? Oops. UM thought of it first. My most-sincere apologies to the author.<br />
3. Next, outside of an altered picture, how will the old paint (possibly toxic) be removed (sand blasting or chemically removed) and how will the new paint be manufactured. Just another toxic sacrifice that is necessary for the progession of novel idea.<br />
4. What is to be accomplished if the product or technology is never or highly-unlikely to be used. Simply put, there is a risk/reward calculation that needs to be calculated. That would be a better article to publish. Else, just another exercise to spew more of that deadly carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.<br />
5. The only useful outcome that will be the knowledge obtained by the graduates. </p>
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		<title>By: Hudsm1000</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122351</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hudsm1000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you people.... you insane fools can&#039;t even see what a vision this is. This is a high speed, eco friendly STEAM LOCOMOTIVE. The most awesome form of travel ever devised by man!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you people&#8230;. you insane fools can&#8217;t even see what a vision this is. This is a high speed, eco friendly STEAM LOCOMOTIVE. The most awesome form of travel ever devised by man!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122316</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author hid that information from you by putting it in the text...

&quot;The locomotive is set to run on torrefied biomass (biocoal) — a biofuel created through an energy-efficient processing of cellulosic biomass&quot;

The only animals that produce cellulose are urochordates - sea squirts, salps and larvaceans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author hid that information from you by putting it in the text&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The locomotive is set to run on torrefied biomass (biocoal) — a biofuel created through an energy-efficient processing of cellulosic biomass&#8221;</p>
<p>The only animals that produce cellulose are urochordates &#8211; sea squirts, salps and larvaceans.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest542</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122315</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest542]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 01:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[biomass is just plant matter like algae or peat.. not animals..... carbon neutral means that the carbon emitted from burning the biomass equals the amount of CO2 that the plant absorbed... a one for one trade. It doesn&#039;t help reduce the amount of CO2 in the air, but it doesn&#039;t add any either]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biomass is just plant matter like algae or peat.. not animals&#8230;.. carbon neutral means that the carbon emitted from burning the biomass equals the amount of CO2 that the plant absorbed&#8230; a one for one trade. It doesn&#8217;t help reduce the amount of CO2 in the air, but it doesn&#8217;t add any either</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since you asked, carbon neutral means that no additional carbon is added to the atmospheric/oceanic carbon cycle.

No carbon is taken out of sequestration.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you asked, carbon neutral means that no additional carbon is added to the atmospheric/oceanic carbon cycle.</p>
<p>No carbon is taken out of sequestration.</p>
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		<title>By: Heathergreeneyes</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122313</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heathergreeneyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is about as silly as an &quot;enviromental&quot; reporter that was on a radio show last week.  She explained how the Obama administration was moving the military to green energy; solar power for the front line troops, bio feul for jet fighters and hybred engines for tanks.......

The hybred tank engines cost one million dollars more for each tank and she said the bio fuel for the jets is ten times more expensive.

When asked if this was about a green agenda that might interfer with military capacity, she said &quot;oh no, it&#039;s all about saving money&quot;.

So they will save money with a tank engine that cost one million more per tank and jet fuel that cost ten times as much as current jet fuel.........

Once agian, probably that same funky Washington math!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is about as silly as an &#8220;enviromental&#8221; reporter that was on a radio show last week.  She explained how the Obama administration was moving the military to green energy; solar power for the front line troops, bio feul for jet fighters and hybred engines for tanks&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>The hybred tank engines cost one million dollars more for each tank and she said the bio fuel for the jets is ten times more expensive.</p>
<p>When asked if this was about a green agenda that might interfer with military capacity, she said &#8220;oh no, it&#8217;s all about saving money&#8221;.</p>
<p>So they will save money with a tank engine that cost one million more per tank and jet fuel that cost ten times as much as current jet fuel&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Once agian, probably that same funky Washington math!</p>
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		<title>By: Heathergreeneyes</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/24/worlds-first-carbonneutral-higherspeed-locomotive/#comment-122312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heathergreeneyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does carbon neutral mean?  Either it produces greenhouse gases or it doesn&#039;t.  Or does it stop every 100 feet so someone can jump off and plant a tree for a carbon offset?

I think Carbon Neutral translates into someones funky math.  Probably a version of the same math politicans use to create &quot;savings&quot; and spending cuts, that really do not exist!

They will say they planned to spend $200 million, then decide to only spend $100 million and declare they just cut the deficit by $100 million........

I am betting &quot;carbon neutral&quot; is probably in this same realm of funky math!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does carbon neutral mean?  Either it produces greenhouse gases or it doesn&#8217;t.  Or does it stop every 100 feet so someone can jump off and plant a tree for a carbon offset?</p>
<p>I think Carbon Neutral translates into someones funky math.  Probably a version of the same math politicans use to create &#8220;savings&#8221; and spending cuts, that really do not exist!</p>
<p>They will say they planned to spend $200 million, then decide to only spend $100 million and declare they just cut the deficit by $100 million&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I am betting &#8220;carbon neutral&#8221; is probably in this same realm of funky math!</p>
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