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	<title>Comments on: $571-Million Solar Power Plant Planned for Spain</title>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 11:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we might relabel them the Energy Disinformation Administration :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we might relabel them the Energy Disinformation Administration <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Dimitar Mirchev</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimitar Mirchev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just assumed the numbers in the table are right. But even if they are 50%(!) off it is still a very competitive cost.

Also I dont believe the Energy Information Administration, Annual Energy Outlook 2011. Historically EIA have been underestimating renewables by factors of 10 to 100. Especially when they talk about growth, projections, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just assumed the numbers in the table are right. But even if they are 50%(!) off it is still a very competitive cost.</p>
<p>Also I dont believe the Energy Information Administration, Annual Energy Outlook 2011. Historically EIA have been underestimating renewables by factors of 10 to 100. Especially when they talk about growth, projections, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I put $1430/MW, 6% financing, 20 years, 5.5 solar hours (23% capacity) into a LCOE estimator I get %0.6/kWh.

I put O&amp;M at zero, not knowing what those costs might, but they should be low.

5.5 solar hours for the CA/AZ/NM desert.  Drop it down to 5 solar hours to include the rest of the Southwest and the price rises to $0.07/kWh.   Use 4.5 hours which brings the Midwest and Southeast into the mix and that area shows $0.08/kWh.

Six to eight cents for new peak hour generation is an impressive number.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I put $1430/MW, 6% financing, 20 years, 5.5 solar hours (23% capacity) into a LCOE estimator I get %0.6/kWh.</p>
<p>I put O&amp;M at zero, not knowing what those costs might, but they should be low.</p>
<p>5.5 solar hours for the CA/AZ/NM desert.  Drop it down to 5 solar hours to include the rest of the Southwest and the price rises to $0.07/kWh.   Use 4.5 hours which brings the Midwest and Southeast into the mix and that area shows $0.08/kWh.</p>
<p>Six to eight cents for new peak hour generation is an impressive number.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brak</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very roughly, with a cost of $1.43 per watt I get a figure of about eight cents a kilowatt-hour for Australia.  (We have higher costs of capital here.)  This is getting close to our daytime wholesale electricity prices.   While I still think point of use solar will be the main source of solar electricity in Australia as it is already below parity, I am still pleasantly surprised to see grid connected solar being built so cheap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very roughly, with a cost of $1.43 per watt I get a figure of about eight cents a kilowatt-hour for Australia.  (We have higher costs of capital here.)  This is getting close to our daytime wholesale electricity prices.   While I still think point of use solar will be the main source of solar electricity in Australia as it is already below parity, I am still pleasantly surprised to see grid connected solar being built so cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What assumption are you making to read an LCOE of €0.06/kWh off that table?

If it is that low it beats the minimum LCOE of coal from the table &quot;Regional Variation in Levelized Costs of New Generation Resources, 2016&quot; in this doc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCOE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What assumption are you making to read an LCOE of €0.06/kWh off that table?</p>
<p>If it is that low it beats the minimum LCOE of coal from the table &#8220;Regional Variation in Levelized Costs of New Generation Resources, 2016&#8243; in this doc.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCOE" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCOE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New nuclear (with subsidies) would likely be more than twice that cost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New nuclear (with subsidies) would likely be more than twice that cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If those numbers are correct then solar is producing electricity at less than $0.08/kWh.

That&#039;s an astounding price!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If those numbers are correct then solar is producing electricity at less than $0.08/kWh.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an astounding price!</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitar Mirchev</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimitar Mirchev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 08:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$1.43 /Wp is around 1,12 euro/Wp which according to the solar map:
http://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvgis/cmaps/eu_opt/pvgis_solar_optimum_ES.png
and this very helpful table from German wikipedia:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaik#Stromgestehungskosten
means LCOE of 6 eurocents/kWh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$1.43 /Wp is around 1,12 euro/Wp which according to the solar map:<br />
<a href="http://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvgis/cmaps/eu_opt/pvgis_solar_optimum_ES.png" rel="nofollow">http://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvgis/cmaps/eu_opt/pvgis_solar_optimum_ES.png</a><br />
and this very helpful table from German wikipedia:<br />
<a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaik#Stromgestehungskosten" rel="nofollow">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaik#Stromgestehungskosten</a><br />
means LCOE of 6 eurocents/kWh.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s fantastic news. Like Ronald mentioned, $1.43/Watt is a rather remarkable achievement. Can nuclear get a lower price than that? Apparently not!

Solar &gt; Nuclear. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s fantastic news. Like Ronald mentioned, $1.43/Watt is a rather remarkable achievement. Can nuclear get a lower price than that? Apparently not!</p>
<p>Solar &gt; Nuclear. </p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 06:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally. Some good news from Spain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally. Some good news from Spain.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brak</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/05/17/571-million-solar-power-plant-planned-for-spain/#comment-121291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Brak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!  $1.43 a watt!  This is pretty astounding news.  The fact that solar PV is falling so rapidly in price is great news for the environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  $1.43 a watt!  This is pretty astounding news.  The fact that solar PV is falling so rapidly in price is great news for the environment.</p>
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