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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-204146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 04:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, you two.  Take it somewhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, you two.  Take it somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: AlainCo</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-204052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlainCo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[strawman again ?

did you ever read things on the subject?

read excess heat... if you dare.

http://iccf9.global.tsinghua.edu.cn/lenr%20home%20page/acrobat/BeaudetteCexcessheat.pdf  (it is a pdf don&#039;t be afraid)

Spawar? just navy skunwork team? don&#039;t they apply emerging steam power for navy in the old time ?

Did you say me support crackpot... I just have disdain for anti-scientific  crackpotery like critics of lewis, Gary taubes, Huizenga.

Just read that wikipedia article

http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/293wikipedia.html

BTW: strange that trolling ? do you want to muddy the water for a client? a bit late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strawman again ?</p>
<p>did you ever read things on the subject?</p>
<p>read excess heat&#8230; if you dare.</p>
<p><a href="http://iccf9.global.tsinghua.edu.cn/lenr%20home%20page/acrobat/BeaudetteCexcessheat.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://iccf9.global.tsinghua.edu.cn/lenr%20home%20page/acrobat/BeaudetteCexcessheat.pdf</a>  (it is a pdf don&#8217;t be afraid)</p>
<p>Spawar? just navy skunwork team? don&#8217;t they apply emerging steam power for navy in the old time ?</p>
<p>Did you say me support crackpot&#8230; I just have disdain for anti-scientific  crackpotery like critics of lewis, Gary taubes, Huizenga.</p>
<p>Just read that wikipedia article</p>
<p><a href="http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/293wikipedia.html" rel="nofollow">http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/293wikipedia.html</a></p>
<p>BTW: strange that trolling ? do you want to muddy the water for a client? a bit late.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-204042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alain Coetmeur Yeah! Every crackpot is right!

ALL Scientists (except ones that support you) are full of

s_it Every hair brained half AS_ED idea is right!

SPAWAR!

Like you even know what it means!

Because you post on every BS Blog about every conspiracy

to hide &quot;LENR&quot; or whatever who are you?

AND who cares?

Alain Coetmeur!


Another self important (Bill Beatty VORTEX)
AS_HOLE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alain Coetmeur Yeah! Every crackpot is right!</p>
<p>ALL Scientists (except ones that support you) are full of</p>
<p>s_it Every hair brained half AS_ED idea is right!</p>
<p>SPAWAR!</p>
<p>Like you even know what it means!</p>
<p>Because you post on every BS Blog about every conspiracy</p>
<p>to hide &#8220;LENR&#8221; or whatever who are you?</p>
<p>AND who cares?</p>
<p>Alain Coetmeur!</p>
<p>Another self important (Bill Beatty VORTEX)<br />
AS_HOLE</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-204043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alain Coetmeur Yeah! Every crackpot is right!

ALL Scientists (except ones that support you) are full of

s_it Every hair brained half AS_ED idea is right!

SPAWAR!

Like you even know what it means!

Because you post on every BS Blog about every conspiracy

to hide &quot;LENR&quot; or whatever who are you?

AND who cares?

Alain Coetmeur!

Another self important (Bill Beatty VORTEX)
AS_HOLEIO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alain Coetmeur Yeah! Every crackpot is right!</p>
<p>ALL Scientists (except ones that support you) are full of</p>
<p>s_it Every hair brained half AS_ED idea is right!</p>
<p>SPAWAR!</p>
<p>Like you even know what it means!</p>
<p>Because you post on every BS Blog about every conspiracy</p>
<p>to hide &#8220;LENR&#8221; or whatever who are you?</p>
<p>AND who cares?</p>
<p>Alain Coetmeur!</p>
<p>Another self important (Bill Beatty VORTEX)<br />
AS_HOLEIO</p>
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		<title>By: AlainCo</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-204041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlainCo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what is your strawman ?

If you have read the book &quot;Excess Heat&quot; by Charles Beaudette http://iccf9.global.tsinghua.edu.cn/lenr%20home%20page/acrobat/BeaudetteCexcessheat.pdf

and the articles cited, and the absence of critical article that were not rebutted about the LENR calorimetry of McKubre, Fleischmann, and others (ok it tooks few years to confirm LENR), then you would know LENr is a confirmed science... since the 90s.



For Rossi, if you have read the answer of Bo Hoistad on the Pomp&amp;Eriksson you will know those physicist are conspiracy theorist like many physicist are on LENR.


find serious argument, and not conspiracy theory.


and please no strawman attach. 
I trust Elforsk due dilligence, McKubre after checked by garwin and Lewis visit, not your biased opinion, neither the other parrots who refuse to read the dissenting data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is your strawman ?</p>
<p>If you have read the book &#8220;Excess Heat&#8221; by Charles Beaudette <a href="http://iccf9.global.tsinghua.edu.cn/lenr%20home%20page/acrobat/BeaudetteCexcessheat.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://iccf9.global.tsinghua.edu.cn/lenr%20home%20page/acrobat/BeaudetteCexcessheat.pdf</a></p>
<p>and the articles cited, and the absence of critical article that were not rebutted about the LENR calorimetry of McKubre, Fleischmann, and others (ok it tooks few years to confirm LENR), then you would know LENr is a confirmed science&#8230; since the 90s.</p>
<p>For Rossi, if you have read the answer of Bo Hoistad on the Pomp&amp;Eriksson you will know those physicist are conspiracy theorist like many physicist are on LENR.</p>
<p>find serious argument, and not conspiracy theory.</p>
<p>and please no strawman attach.<br />
I trust Elforsk due dilligence, McKubre after checked by garwin and Lewis visit, not your biased opinion, neither the other parrots who refuse to read the dissenting data.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-204039</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alain Coetmeur is mentally challenged!
He believes &quot;RossI&quot; Tom Bearden and Stanley Meyer to be
&quot;telling the truth&quot; (Uri Geller also)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alain Coetmeur is mentally challenged!<br />
He believes &#8220;RossI&#8221; Tom Bearden and Stanley Meyer to be<br />
&#8220;telling the truth&#8221; (Uri Geller also)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-204036</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alain Coetmeur is a mentally challenged blogger]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alain Coetmeur is a mentally challenged blogger</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-163023</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;“Exactly. It&#039;s definitely not chemical in nature. The absence of radiation makes us say that it is a nuclear reaction of an unknown type.“&quot;

I would suggest people apply an unusually high level of skepticism.  (For those who are &#039;confused&#039;, skepticism is not the same as denial.)

Rossi has no background in chemistry or nuclear physics.  His degree is in philosophy and ran a company that worked on turning waste in to oil.



Two options here.  1) Rossi, a guy with no apparent background experience in energy outside of waste processing has made one of the great discoveries of all times or 2) he&#039;s &quot;bending spoons&quot;.


I need to see this turned over to multiple major labs for conformation.  


Rossi&#039;s lack of patents claims is BS.  Major universities and government labs would sign non-disclosure agreements.  If the &#039;secret sauce&#039; was disclosed any court would give him full control over future manufacturing just as if he had patents.


He could sign a non-disclosure agreement with someone and give them a 0.01% share in the business to get the million or so it would take to get world wide patents.


If he is really selling these things, as he claims, someone could buy one and hacksaw it open.  And he has no patent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Exactly. It&#8217;s definitely not chemical in nature. The absence of radiation makes us say that it is a nuclear reaction of an unknown type.“&#8221;</p>
<p>I would suggest people apply an unusually high level of skepticism.  (For those who are &#8216;confused&#8217;, skepticism is not the same as denial.)</p>
<p>Rossi has no background in chemistry or nuclear physics.  His degree is in philosophy and ran a company that worked on turning waste in to oil.</p>
<p>Two options here.  1) Rossi, a guy with no apparent background experience in energy outside of waste processing has made one of the great discoveries of all times or 2) he&#8217;s &#8220;bending spoons&#8221;.</p>
<p>I need to see this turned over to multiple major labs for conformation.  </p>
<p>Rossi&#8217;s lack of patents claims is BS.  Major universities and government labs would sign non-disclosure agreements.  If the &#8216;secret sauce&#8217; was disclosed any court would give him full control over future manufacturing just as if he had patents.</p>
<p>He could sign a non-disclosure agreement with someone and give them a 0.01% share in the business to get the million or so it would take to get world wide patents.</p>
<p>If he is really selling these things, as he claims, someone could buy one and hacksaw it open.  And he has no patent.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-162993</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 12:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.reddit.com/r/LENR/comments/1etk5g/brief_interview_with_levi_on_the_recent_paper/

Comments from author of the scientific paper on Rossi&#039;s E-Cat HT machine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/LENR/comments/1etk5g/brief_interview_with_levi_on_the_recent_paper/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddit.com/r/LENR/comments/1etk5g/brief_interview_with_levi_on_the_recent_paper/</a></p>
<p>Comments from author of the scientific paper on Rossi&#8217;s E-Cat HT machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-162991</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-05/24/cold-fusion-research

Cold Fusion gets red hot and aims for EU

24 MAY 13  by DAVID HAMBLING 

The resurgence of &quot;cold fusion&quot; research just shifted up a gear with the most remarkable development yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-05/24/cold-fusion-research" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-05/24/cold-fusion-research</a></p>
<p>Cold Fusion gets red hot and aims for EU</p>
<p>24 MAY 13  by DAVID HAMBLING </p>
<p>The resurgence of &#8220;cold fusion&#8221; research just shifted up a gear with the most remarkable development yet.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptickle</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-131217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skeptickle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep that head in the sand Zach.  Else you might LEARN something!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep that head in the sand Zach.  Else you might LEARN something!</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-130507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. Check back in in about 20 years and let me know where things are -- might be worth covering then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Check back in in about 20 years and let me know where things are &#8212; might be worth covering then.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptickle</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-130405</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skeptickle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A highly respected physicist with Italian National Inst. Nuclear Physics Dr. Francesco Celani has demonstrated 14-22W of excess heat from a Ni/Cu/Mn wire loaded with Hydrogen.  The demo ran first at the industry congress National Instruments Week who sponsored Celani and his experiment - 5,000 scientists and engineers attended.  The following week the same demo ran at ICCF17 in South Korea.  There is a LOT of groundbreaking science taking place in this field.  Too bad Zach has buried his head in the sand!

http://www.22passi.it/downloads/Celani_ICCF17_Trasp3.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A highly respected physicist with Italian National Inst. Nuclear Physics Dr. Francesco Celani has demonstrated 14-22W of excess heat from a Ni/Cu/Mn wire loaded with Hydrogen.  The demo ran first at the industry congress National Instruments Week who sponsored Celani and his experiment &#8211; 5,000 scientists and engineers attended.  The following week the same demo ran at ICCF17 in South Korea.  There is a LOT of groundbreaking science taking place in this field.  Too bad Zach has buried his head in the sand!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.22passi.it/downloads/Celani_ICCF17_Trasp3.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.22passi.it/downloads/Celani_ICCF17_Trasp3.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-127332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re thinking about the &quot;half dozen&quot; that I&#039;m thinking about, they are research projects.  

They are not declaring that they have a working project ready for private investment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re thinking about the &#8220;half dozen&#8221; that I&#8217;m thinking about, they are research projects.  </p>
<p>They are not declaring that they have a working project ready for private investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bell</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-127331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the half dozen other organizations in various states of progress? Are they ALL scammers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the half dozen other organizations in various states of progress? Are they ALL scammers?</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-118619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That works. thanks. will take a look.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That works. thanks. will take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe McPlumber</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-118543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe McPlumber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It works fine for me as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works fine for me as well.</p>
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		<title>By: AlainCo</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-118147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlainCo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[don&#039;t try that with a nuclear powerplant 8-)
Test at Fukushima were quite negative, yet excess heat was real.
Anyway you seems not to trust any scientist, any number of independent. With that reasoning, forget about Apolo, 9/11, or heliocentrism... and most of accepted beliefs will be dismissed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t try that with a nuclear powerplant <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8-)" class="wp-smiley" /><br />
Test at Fukushima were quite negative, yet excess heat was real.<br />
Anyway you seems not to trust any scientist, any number of independent. With that reasoning, forget about Apolo, 9/11, or heliocentrism&#8230; and most of accepted beliefs will be dismissed.</p>
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		<title>By: AlainCo</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-118146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlainCo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maybe manually go to http://www.lenrforum.eu
English
post: &quot;Prepared answer on LENR/cold fusion for your friends&quot;

and many other, and enjoy critics.
We need it. It make bad argument dies and find good arguments and reasoning. And also it can correct wrong beliefs.

Every morning I&#039;m afraid to be wrong, and check the counter-arguments...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe manually go to <a href="http://www.lenrforum.eu" rel="nofollow">http://www.lenrforum.eu</a><br />
English<br />
post: &#8220;Prepared answer on LENR/cold fusion for your friends&#8221;</p>
<p>and many other, and enjoy critics.<br />
We need it. It make bad argument dies and find good arguments and reasoning. And also it can correct wrong beliefs.</p>
<p>Every morning I&#8217;m afraid to be wrong, and check the counter-arguments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/02/cold-fusion-e-cat-not/#comment-118144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[show some proof that it has worked without support from external power generation and is at least somewhat cost-effective and you&#039;ll find a lot more converts. i&#039;ve seen no such proof in the hundreds of rambling comments i&#039;ve read from supporters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>show some proof that it has worked without support from external power generation and is at least somewhat cost-effective and you&#8217;ll find a lot more converts. i&#8217;ve seen no such proof in the hundreds of rambling comments i&#8217;ve read from supporters.</p>
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