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	<title>Comments on: Shocker: Conservative Fox News Guest Tears Up Conservative Lies About Chevy Volt</title>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-118584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the note. If you&#039;d like, I&#039;d be happy to feature an owner review of the Volt from you! :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the note. If you&#8217;d like, I&#8217;d be happy to feature an owner review of the Volt from you! <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Enpowers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Enpowers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Volt owner, I am blown away by both the car and by this interview.  Makes my heart go pitter-patter.  Spieckerman speaks the truth!  Fox network speaks the truth!

There will always be supporters of the past due to price and plain old fear of change.  That&#039;s OK, technology always overcomes those problems at the end of the day.  What&#039;s harder to overcome is pure politics.

Let&#039;s look at the Volt (and other EVs) as advances in technology and transportation and leave the politics out of it.  And that is what Spieckerman is talking about.

Way cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Volt owner, I am blown away by both the car and by this interview.  Makes my heart go pitter-patter.  Spieckerman speaks the truth!  Fox network speaks the truth!</p>
<p>There will always be supporters of the past due to price and plain old fear of change.  That&#8217;s OK, technology always overcomes those problems at the end of the day.  What&#8217;s harder to overcome is pure politics.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the Volt (and other EVs) as advances in technology and transportation and leave the politics out of it.  And that is what Spieckerman is talking about.</p>
<p>Way cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Ford Focus Electric Going Dell Route (Built to Order)</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-117404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ford Focus Electric Going Dell Route (Built to Order)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] like a good idea. (Also, if conservative media and politicians rail on the car for months over one minor non-newsworthy story, effectively killing sales, this [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] like a good idea. (Also, if conservative media and politicians rail on the car for months over one minor non-newsworthy story, effectively killing sales, this [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-117256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because one should not express the fact that FOX lies more than a baby cries? I&#039;ve seen plenty of studies showing how FOX News viewers are less informed than others, and there are so many lies expressed on the network every time I see a clip, it doesn&#039;t compare to another network or show, except maybe the Colbert Report, but those lies are jokes mocking networks like FOX.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because one should not express the fact that FOX lies more than a baby cries? I&#8217;ve seen plenty of studies showing how FOX News viewers are less informed than others, and there are so many lies expressed on the network every time I see a clip, it doesn&#8217;t compare to another network or show, except maybe the Colbert Report, but those lies are jokes mocking networks like FOX.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-117174</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Fox has earned a unique position on the truthiness continuum.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Fox has earned a unique position on the truthiness continuum.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkM</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-117172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I see &quot;Thank goodness someone can get the chance to debunk at least ONE of the network’s many, many, many,… many lies.&quot; at the beginning of article you can be sure you are not getting an unbiased opinion. I find it funny that you don&#039;t say the same about the liberal media. News is no longer news. It is entertainment. Don&#039;t be fooled by either side.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I see &#8220;Thank goodness someone can get the chance to debunk at least ONE of the network’s many, many, many,… many lies.&#8221; at the beginning of article you can be sure you are not getting an unbiased opinion. I find it funny that you don&#8217;t say the same about the liberal media. News is no longer news. It is entertainment. Don&#8217;t be fooled by either side.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Joash Tan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-117114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Joash Tan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 07:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[looks like Fox News&#039; tides were turned]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like Fox News&#8217; tides were turned</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s address those inefficiencies, Steve.

First oil.  The typical gasmobile wastes about 80% of the energy in a gallon of gas.  What to know where it goes?  Stick your hand on your engine block after you&#039;ve driven for a while.  Hold you hand against the tail pipe.  (Don&#039;t really do that, but think about what would happen if you did.)

And that&#039;s just part of the waste.  A significant part of the barrel of oil extracted from wells is burned to refine the crude into gas/diesel/etc.  Electricity is purchased, coal is burned, natural gas is burned - lots of energy gets used to turn oil into fuel.  More energy wasted.

And let&#039;s throw in the wasted energy used to drill/pump/transport/distribute oil.  

Overall, tremendous inefficiencies.  It could be that only 5% of the energy in a gallon of the stuff down in the ground is actually used.  

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Now let&#039;s address the energy consumption needed to charge EVs and PHEVs.

There are losses if we burn fossil fuels to create electricity.  But we&#039;re in the process of transitioning away from fossil fuels.  And coal/gas plants are more efficient than ICEVs.

Of course there&#039;s no fossil fuel energy loss if we&#039;re talking about electricity from renewable sources.

We loose a very small amount of electricity in transmission.  There&#039;s about a 10% loss in battery charging.  EVs are very efficient, they waste only 10% or so of the energy in batteries - 90% goes to moving the car forward.

The energy coming out of wind turbines and solar panels - we&#039;re wasting roughly 25%.

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5% vs. 75% - There&#039;s no contest.  

Gasmobiles are the energy black holes of transportation.  We throw away an incredible amount of energy moving ourselves around with this outdated technology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s address those inefficiencies, Steve.</p>
<p>First oil.  The typical gasmobile wastes about 80% of the energy in a gallon of gas.  What to know where it goes?  Stick your hand on your engine block after you&#8217;ve driven for a while.  Hold you hand against the tail pipe.  (Don&#8217;t really do that, but think about what would happen if you did.)</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just part of the waste.  A significant part of the barrel of oil extracted from wells is burned to refine the crude into gas/diesel/etc.  Electricity is purchased, coal is burned, natural gas is burned &#8211; lots of energy gets used to turn oil into fuel.  More energy wasted.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s throw in the wasted energy used to drill/pump/transport/distribute oil.  </p>
<p>Overall, tremendous inefficiencies.  It could be that only 5% of the energy in a gallon of the stuff down in the ground is actually used.  </p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s address the energy consumption needed to charge EVs and PHEVs.</p>
<p>There are losses if we burn fossil fuels to create electricity.  But we&#8217;re in the process of transitioning away from fossil fuels.  And coal/gas plants are more efficient than ICEVs.</p>
<p>Of course there&#8217;s no fossil fuel energy loss if we&#8217;re talking about electricity from renewable sources.</p>
<p>We loose a very small amount of electricity in transmission.  There&#8217;s about a 10% loss in battery charging.  EVs are very efficient, they waste only 10% or so of the energy in batteries &#8211; 90% goes to moving the car forward.</p>
<p>The energy coming out of wind turbines and solar panels &#8211; we&#8217;re wasting roughly 25%.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>5% vs. 75% &#8211; There&#8217;s no contest.  </p>
<p>Gasmobiles are the energy black holes of transportation.  We throw away an incredible amount of energy moving ourselves around with this outdated technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Chayer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-117078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Chayer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have not addressed the energy consumption needed to charge all of these vehicles. The inherent inefficiencies would demand more consumption of fuel not less. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have not addressed the energy consumption needed to charge all of these vehicles. The inherent inefficiencies would demand more consumption of fuel not less. </p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-116988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the car won Car of the Year in Europe ( http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/ ),
and as pointed out by others here, it was doing fine on sales before the media hoopla over a non-issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the car won Car of the Year in Europe ( <a href="http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/" rel="nofollow">http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/</a> ),<br />
and as pointed out by others here, it was doing fine on sales before the media hoopla over a non-issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-116986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good points. and i think overlooking the fact that this car is winning big awards is another point to bring up: http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good points. and i think overlooking the fact that this car is winning big awards is another point to bring up: <a href="http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/" rel="nofollow">http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-116985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not the same car at all. The European version of the Volt, the Opel Amera, and the Volt just jointly won European Car of the Year: http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the same car at all. The European version of the Volt, the Opel Amera, and the Volt just jointly won European Car of the Year: <a href="http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/" rel="nofollow">http://gm-volt.com/2012/03/06/voltampera-win-european-car-of-the-year-new-volt-ad-posted/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-116983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly, and geocentrism is just as valid as heliocentircism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, and geocentrism is just as valid as heliocentircism.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/28/shocker-conservative-fox-news-guest-tears-up-conservative-lies-about-chevy-volt/#comment-116982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The piece was still chock full of a dozen or so lies and myths. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The piece was still chock full of a dozen or so lies and myths. <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Ewen Cluney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ewen Cluney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That makes perfect sense for you and your particular needs, but an awful lot of people simply don&#039;t need the extra carrying capacity, and I suspect that includes a non-trivial portion of people who own SUVs and pickups, especially the kind that don&#039;t have a speck of dirt on them. I don&#039;t think anyone was suggesting that the Volt was a one-size-fits-all car for everyone ever though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes perfect sense for you and your particular needs, but an awful lot of people simply don&#8217;t need the extra carrying capacity, and I suspect that includes a non-trivial portion of people who own SUVs and pickups, especially the kind that don&#8217;t have a speck of dirt on them. I don&#8217;t think anyone was suggesting that the Volt was a one-size-fits-all car for everyone ever though.</p>
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		<title>By: dabble53</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dabble53]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It makes sense to the typical right wing nut jobs....proof in the comments here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense to the typical right wing nut jobs&#8230;.proof in the comments here.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulScott58</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulScott58]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Volt is far from a disaster. I&#039;d say there are much closer to a grand success. The car business isn&#039;t as simple as you think it is. Launching a new technology, as well as a new car is expensive and difficult. The sales are fine, and will get better.

Once people understand that this technology addresses three implacable problems that effect us all, the sales will skyrocket. But what&#039;s needed mostly are the cars. I sell the LEAF in LA and can&#039;t keep these cars on the lot. I need more cars! 

Now that the new Volt is out and can get HOV access and the CA rebate, they are hard to find in SoCal. 

Had the Fox people not conducted this anti-EV campaign, but instead championed the technology, we&#039;d closer to our goal of reducing imports to zero.

That can&#039;t stop it, but they succeeded in slowing it down. Bully for Fox, too bad for America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Volt is far from a disaster. I&#8217;d say there are much closer to a grand success. The car business isn&#8217;t as simple as you think it is. Launching a new technology, as well as a new car is expensive and difficult. The sales are fine, and will get better.</p>
<p>Once people understand that this technology addresses three implacable problems that effect us all, the sales will skyrocket. But what&#8217;s needed mostly are the cars. I sell the LEAF in LA and can&#8217;t keep these cars on the lot. I need more cars! </p>
<p>Now that the new Volt is out and can get HOV access and the CA rebate, they are hard to find in SoCal. </p>
<p>Had the Fox people not conducted this anti-EV campaign, but instead championed the technology, we&#8217;d closer to our goal of reducing imports to zero.</p>
<p>That can&#8217;t stop it, but they succeeded in slowing it down. Bully for Fox, too bad for America.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulScott58</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulScott58]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There really isn&#039;t anything like the Volt anywhere, not yet anyway.

Whether he drives on now isn&#039;t material. The words he said were enough. He&#039;ll get one eventually, probably his next new car purchase.

Let&#039;s not rag on the guy who is doing us a huge favor here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really isn&#8217;t anything like the Volt anywhere, not yet anyway.</p>
<p>Whether he drives on now isn&#8217;t material. The words he said were enough. He&#8217;ll get one eventually, probably his next new car purchase.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not rag on the guy who is doing us a huge favor here.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulScott58</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulScott58]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Clearly, GM just signed a deal to start advertising on Fox.&quot;

Or threatened to drop advertising from Fox...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clearly, GM just signed a deal to start advertising on Fox.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or threatened to drop advertising from Fox&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Catfishjuggling_redux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catfishjuggling_redux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am I the only one who remembers Hannity pimping the Volt all the freaking time????

Clearly, GM just signed a deal to start advertising on Fox. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who remembers Hannity pimping the Volt all the freaking time????</p>
<p>Clearly, GM just signed a deal to start advertising on Fox. </p>
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