Comments on: Ford Focus Electric: 110 MPGe & Most Fuel-Efficient Car in U.S.

By: Top 33 Electric Vehicle Stories Of 2013 (So Far) | PlanetSave

Top 33 Electric Vehicle Stories Of 2013 (So Far) | PlanetSave — Wed, 29 May 2013 22:43:06 +0000

[…] is the third Ford hybrid/electric vehicle which has received an EPA rating of 100 MPGe or greater. Ford’s Focus Electric has a combined 105 MPGe combined rating (110 MPGe city; 99 MPGe highway), while the C-Max […]

By: My Interview for Mashable: EVs, Bikes, & Carsharing Rockin' It - CleanTechnica

Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:35:44 +0000

[…] the Mitsubishi i (which has a base price of just over $20,000 after the federal tax credit), the Ford Focus Electric. Each of these have their own benefits and drawbacks, but they are all one large leap ahead what […]

By: 2013 Honda Fit EV Lands New EPA Fuel-Efficiency Record (118 MPGe) - CleanTechnica

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:35:37 +0000

[…] Ford Focus Electric landed the EPA’s most “fuel-efficient car” rating ever in March with a combined fuel efficiency of 105 MPGe (and 110 MPGe in the city). The Mitsubishi i […]

By: Ford Focus Electric Going Dell Route (Built to Order)

Ford Focus Electric Going Dell Route (Built to Order) — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:24:17 +0000

[…] reported previously here on CleanTechnica, the Ford Focus Electric is the most fuel-efficient car in the US, and it is now on sale for $39,995. It’s supposed to be available in select states (New […]

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:56:00 +0000

‘Liberals love to save money by spending more. LOL”

Absolutely! It’s called “investing”. It’s what smart people do in order to become wealthy.

” Made by Ford too! Not bailed out!”

You do realize, don’t you, that had GM and Chrysler not been bailed out Ford would have had a lot of trouble staying in business.

The bailout prevented lots and lots of companies that supply all auto manufactures with their windshields/blower motors/door latch stuff from going under. Had that happened Ford would have had no place to source their components. Ford’s business alone would have probably not kept suppliers in operation.

(I’m guessing you didn’t know that. It’s not the sort of facts one finds on Fox….)

By: Zachary Shahan

Zachary Shahan — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:39:00 +0000

Insects love to only think about the coming few days or months (since they don’t anticipate living much longer).

Some people retire at 50. Some retire at 80.

Planning’s a bitch, eh?

By: buildakicker

buildakicker — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:57:00 +0000

Liberals love to save money by spending more. LOL

I like this car though. Made by Ford too! Not bailed out!

By: 1st Coda EV Has EV-Leading 88-Mile Range, EPA Says - CleanTechnica

1st Coda EV Has EV-Leading 88-Mile Range, EPA Says - CleanTechnica — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:35:10 +0000

[…] i gets 62 miles per charge, Nissan Leaf reportedly has range of 73 miles per charge, and the Ford Focus Electric has a range of 76 miles per […]

By: Ford Focus Electric Barely Tops Nissan Leaf with 105 MPGe Combined Efficiency | Planetsave

Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:46:14 +0000

[…] to Ford, the EPA declared the 2012 Ford Focus Electric the most fuel-efficient 5-passenger vehicle in America, due to the fact that it achieves 110 MPGe […]

By: Californians Can Now Drive Ford Focus Electric in HOV Lanes - CleanTechnica

Californians Can Now Drive Ford Focus Electric in HOV Lanes - CleanTechnica — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:30:22 +0000

[…] news for Californians who own (or will soon own) a Ford Focus Electric, a great electric vehicle we’ve featured here on CleanTechnica a few times: Ford Focus […]

By: T. Lester

T. Lester — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:25:00 +0000

And Ford already makes the case that most people really don’t need individual transport: “With the average American driving 29 miles a day,…” – from the article.

By: T. Lester

T. Lester — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:20:00 +0000

Good copy pasting from the Ford site. Still, good to know the other US automaker gets it right.

By: T. Lester

T. Lester — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:19:00 +0000

BS and blather. And your obsession is very telling in that you seem to think he’s not your President as well – asssuming you’re a US citizen that is.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 18:18:00 +0000

Some time back I attempted to determine the amount of energy that goes into refining a gallon of gasoline using DOE numbers. Here’s a list of the various energy inputs that US oil refineries use:

LPG
Distillate Fuel Oil
Still Gas
Petroleum Coke
Marketable Petroleum Coke
Catalyst Petroleum Coke
Other Petroleum Products
Natural Gas
Coal
Purchased Electricity
Purchased Steam

My calculations, based on the amount of each used and the number of gallons of gasoline produced was 3.14kWh per gallon.

That’s enough to drive a 0.35kWh/mile EV about nine miles. Of course there’s no way to take the energy in, say, petroleum coke and turn into an equivalent amount of electricity.

That 3.14kWh does not include the energy used to extract and transport the oil and to get the gas from refinery to car tank.

Extraction is not simply a process of drilling a hole and pumping out the oil. We’re now using lots of steam injected into wells in order to soften remaining oil. Turning water into steam takes energy.

Those tankers hauling crude around the world and the tanker trucks hauling gasoline around the country burn a lot of fuel.

By: SirSparks

SirSparks — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:24:00 +0000

That is a very valid point I had not considered Bob and makes my statement even stronger. Now most electric motors are about 90% efficient and most storage systems are also about 90% efficient so the overall efficiency of a EV is about 80%. Couple this with Alternative Energy forms of charging and we have a clear winner by a magnitude or more. I doubt efficiency of ICEV’s when including the costs you so rightly mention would even make 10%.

By: Bob_Wallace

Bob_Wallace — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:52:00 +0000

I’d love to see the Department of Energy do a thorough analysis of the energy that goes into pushing an ICEV down the road.

We talk about the amount of energy in a gallon of gasoline and how little of it gets converted into motion, but we don’t include the large amount of energy that goes into getting oil out of the ground, to the refinery, refined, and distributed to the tank.

By: Stan Allen

Stan Allen — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:03:00 +0000

Really, if the cost of electricity prices would “Necessarily Increase” by your President’s Own words; why then do use the argument that a savings of over $9,000.00 in 4 years (greatly exaggerated I might add) would save us. The only thing that will save us is that you greenhouse liberals should start your own Country and try to finance it without us filthy “Conservative Capitalist”. Don’t propose to “Hope” and “Change” mine.

By: SirSparks

SirSparks — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:15:00 +0000

The EPA uses a formula of 1 gallon gas = 33.7Kw. This is an absurd number based on a perfect energy conversion and that shows no relevance to actual Kw obtained by a gasoline engine. For example my highly efficient inverter generator obtains 4Kw per gallon at best. Using these figures then a 40MPG car would be equivalent to an MPGe 33.7/4 times higher or 105MPG(e) x 33.7 divide by 4 or 884 MPG(e) ! We don’t live in a perfect world but I guess the EPA does, the truth is that in this real world EV’s are many many times more efficient then gas vehicles.

By: Dcard88

Dcard88 — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:06:00 +0000

MOST people is the key word. I agree with you completely, but for a vehicle to be successful you only need 10% of buyers to consider it. Wealthy people should love to have a third car for shopping and errands that uses no gasoline. It would even work fine in 2 worker households if neither has to drive more than 60 miles roundtrip to work or one or either of them can plug in at work(very likely scenerio) If 200,000 people could use it then maybe half of them would buy it per year.
Keep in mind that a replacement battery pack 5 years down the road would get up to 50% better range (valid guesstimate)

By: T. Lester

T. Lester — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:18:00 +0000

Yay!! Very good news.