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	<title>Comments on: China Returns Fire against US Wind and Solar Investigations</title>
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		<title>By: dcmeserve</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2012/01/24/china-returns-fire-against-us-wind-and-solar-investigations/#comment-111867</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s fine that China is subsidizing its renewables industries.  It&#039;s just that the U.S. should do the same -- and this includes levying tariffs on imports, which all other advanced countries do in one way or another.  Additional stimulus subsidies should also be given to domestic purchasers of such imports, such as rooftop solar installer companies, to offset the negative impact of such tariffs, until domestic production volume ramps up.

So China says &quot;“This investigation will ... be harmful to the development of Sino-US new-energy cooperation&quot;.  What is that cooperation?  The U.S. sends them money, and they send back their finished products?  Just like it is already in most other industries?  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s the kind of &quot;cooperation&quot; that is in U.S. interests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fine that China is subsidizing its renewables industries.  It&#8217;s just that the U.S. should do the same &#8212; and this includes levying tariffs on imports, which all other advanced countries do in one way or another.  Additional stimulus subsidies should also be given to domestic purchasers of such imports, such as rooftop solar installer companies, to offset the negative impact of such tariffs, until domestic production volume ramps up.</p>
<p>So China says &#8220;“This investigation will &#8230; be harmful to the development of Sino-US new-energy cooperation&#8221;.  What is that cooperation?  The U.S. sends them money, and they send back their finished products?  Just like it is already in most other industries?  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the kind of &#8220;cooperation&#8221; that is in U.S. interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Sullivan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion, the Chinese are insinuating that there are other factors within our society which have lead to a lack of competitiveness in domestic solar energy enterprises. 

Therefore one must ask, why is it believed that U.S. solar energy firms compete can&#039;t with the Chinese? 

Surely, there are numerous factors. 

- Subsidies for domestic solar panel manufacturers - 
Weaken the competitive edge for these firms; where&#039;s the incentive become more efficient or innovate when your paycheck is ensured? 

- Economies of Scale - The Chinese have invested billions into manufacturing these products. 

e.g. There is a factory which required $1 million to build and a factory which required $100 million dollars to build. Assuming they are both producing the same product and using similar processes... Which factory would produce the same good at a cheaper unit price? 

- Competition drives innovation - Subsidies, like labor unions erode competition and therefore prevent innovation. 

- Big Oil and Coal Lobbyists - If it weren&#039;t for these people I believe we would have witnessed a much broader adoption of renewable energy technologies a decade ago. 

- Some energy giants still talk about &quot;Oil Sands&quot; as if it&#039;s a reliable source of energy in the future. These people are sponsoring massive advertising campaigns disseminating misinformation to millions of unfamiliar Americans who actually believe what they see on television. 

In my opinion, the U.S. government, corporate lobbyists and greed have ultimately deterred the adoption of renewable energies and have forced U.S. solar firms into a position where they are unable to compete.  




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, the Chinese are insinuating that there are other factors within our society which have lead to a lack of competitiveness in domestic solar energy enterprises. </p>
<p>Therefore one must ask, why is it believed that U.S. solar energy firms compete can&#8217;t with the Chinese? </p>
<p>Surely, there are numerous factors. </p>
<p>&#8211; Subsidies for domestic solar panel manufacturers &#8211;<br />
Weaken the competitive edge for these firms; where&#8217;s the incentive become more efficient or innovate when your paycheck is ensured? </p>
<p>&#8211; Economies of Scale &#8211; The Chinese have invested billions into manufacturing these products. </p>
<p>e.g. There is a factory which required $1 million to build and a factory which required $100 million dollars to build. Assuming they are both producing the same product and using similar processes&#8230; Which factory would produce the same good at a cheaper unit price? </p>
<p>&#8211; Competition drives innovation &#8211; Subsidies, like labor unions erode competition and therefore prevent innovation. </p>
<p>&#8211; Big Oil and Coal Lobbyists &#8211; If it weren&#8217;t for these people I believe we would have witnessed a much broader adoption of renewable energy technologies a decade ago. </p>
<p>&#8211; Some energy giants still talk about &#8220;Oil Sands&#8221; as if it&#8217;s a reliable source of energy in the future. These people are sponsoring massive advertising campaigns disseminating misinformation to millions of unfamiliar Americans who actually believe what they see on television. </p>
<p>In my opinion, the U.S. government, corporate lobbyists and greed have ultimately deterred the adoption of renewable energies and have forced U.S. solar firms into a position where they are unable to compete.  </p>
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