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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How WindFlip Will Deliver Gigantic Floating Turbines to Site]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 02:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Statoil Hywind floating turbine is to be tested off the coast in deepwater Maine. Previous story: EU Invades US for Offshore Wind. The test was funded by the Department of Energy: Why DOE Funded Floating Turbines May Change the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Statoil Hywind floating turbine is to be tested off the coast in deepwater Maine. Previous story: EU Invades US for Offshore Wind. The test was funded by the Department of Energy: Why DOE Funded Floating Turbines May Change the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109072</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s one solution.  For those who would like to avoid the pellet route Maine would seem to be an excellent place to install ground effect (geothermal) heat pumps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one solution.  For those who would like to avoid the pellet route Maine would seem to be an excellent place to install ground effect (geothermal) heat pumps.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiji</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in addition to solar they could take advantage of all that night time cheap energy with some ice storage to offset the cooling cost for the AC systems during the day.

-T]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in addition to solar they could take advantage of all that night time cheap energy with some ice storage to offset the cooling cost for the AC systems during the day.</p>
<p>-T</p>
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		<title>By: Tiji</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A way for Maine to get off of its &quot;...highly dependent on oil for heating.&quot; issue is to move to a simple price effective carbon neutral solution... HAY like the stuff cows eat. There is a TED talk about it and it is simple home grown easy to grow. They us a furnace for you home or business it run on compressed hay pellets. The money stays local and avoids the volatile oil prices it requires very little input to grow. It only puts into the air the co2 the hay already pulled out and the next year it pulls co2 out of the air again. It carries the same heat energy as wood and is just below the energy found in coal.

-T

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A way for Maine to get off of its &#8220;&#8230;highly dependent on oil for heating.&#8221; issue is to move to a simple price effective carbon neutral solution&#8230; HAY like the stuff cows eat. There is a TED talk about it and it is simple home grown easy to grow. They us a furnace for you home or business it run on compressed hay pellets. The money stays local and avoids the volatile oil prices it requires very little input to grow. It only puts into the air the co2 the hay already pulled out and the next year it pulls co2 out of the air again. It carries the same heat energy as wood and is just below the energy found in coal.</p>
<p>-T</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109013</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want to stop an undesirable behavior the easiest way to do so is to teach an acceptable replacement behavior.

Show people how we get away from fossil fuels, how we can do so now, how we can save money (and lives) by switching and people are much more likely to get with the program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to stop an undesirable behavior the easiest way to do so is to teach an acceptable replacement behavior.</p>
<p>Show people how we get away from fossil fuels, how we can do so now, how we can save money (and lives) by switching and people are much more likely to get with the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109012</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I struggled for a LOOONG time (and still do) on trying to make people see how imperative it is we change.

But I think it inspiration, beauty, empowerment, evidence, and the &quot;cool&quot; factor that will really drive change -- landed on CleanTechnica almost accidentally (wait, it was accidentally, on my part), but happy at where it&#039;s taken me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I struggled for a LOOONG time (and still do) on trying to make people see how imperative it is we change.</p>
<p>But I think it inspiration, beauty, empowerment, evidence, and the &#8220;cool&#8221; factor that will really drive change &#8212; landed on CleanTechnica almost accidentally (wait, it was accidentally, on my part), but happy at where it&#8217;s taken me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I really appreciate about this site is that it focuses on fixes.

There are plenty sites which tell us why we need to change, but not many that tell us what we can do right now to create change.

The vast majority of Americans want change and if they know what is possible then they can lean on their elected officials to drive policy to support solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I really appreciate about this site is that it focuses on fixes.</p>
<p>There are plenty sites which tell us why we need to change, but not many that tell us what we can do right now to create change.</p>
<p>The vast majority of Americans want change and if they know what is possible then they can lean on their elected officials to drive policy to support solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as i&#039;m concerned, it does :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as i&#8217;m concerned, it does <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a fun day...

http://www.ercot.com/content/cdr/html/20110714_real_time_spp

Look down to about 3PM (1500) and see what Texas folks are paying for wholesale power.  Power from peaking plants bites.

(You can pick days by modifying the link date &quot;20110714&quot;.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a fun day&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ercot.com/content/cdr/html/20110714_real_time_spp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ercot.com/content/cdr/html/20110714_real_time_spp</a></p>
<p>Look down to about 3PM (1500) and see what Texas folks are paying for wholesale power.  Power from peaking plants bites.</p>
<p>(You can pick days by modifying the link date &#8220;20110714&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: BlueRock</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-109002</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlueRock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good info. Thanks.

&gt; That pulls down the wholesale cost of power and ruins the future of coal.

Music to the eyeballs! :)

Yup. Subsidies (better described as *investments*) have been incredibly successful wherever implemented - even if there are the occasional hiccups (e.g. Solyndra). 

Well, successful for everyone other than the Kochs, Exxon, Peabody, etc. :)

Cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good info. Thanks.</p>
<p>&gt; That pulls down the wholesale cost of power and ruins the future of coal.</p>
<p>Music to the eyeballs! <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>Yup. Subsidies (better described as *investments*) have been incredibly successful wherever implemented &#8211; even if there are the occasional hiccups (e.g. Solyndra). </p>
<p>Well, successful for everyone other than the Kochs, Exxon, Peabody, etc. <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-108998</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much thanks for all your effort.  I hope it pays off for you, it is for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much thanks for all your effort.  I hope it pays off for you, it is for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-108996</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i just cut into my sleep and any free time i might have :D

probably not healthy, but i enjoy what i do (for the most part :D)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just cut into my sleep and any free time i might have <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>probably not healthy, but i enjoy what i do (for the most part :D)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-108994</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And look what is happening in the middle of the night in Texas.  Having lots of wind on their grid is driving the wholesale cost of electricity below zero at times.  Because of a small PTC  and no fuel costs wind can sell at or below $0.00/kWh and still make money.  That pulls down the wholesale cost of power and ruins the future of coal.

http://www.ercot.com/content/cdr/html/20111014_real_time_spp

Now Texas needs some of that great $0.10/kWh to $0.15/kWh solar on its grid to bring down their daytime peak prices.

Texas.  USA.  American taxpayer money has brought the cost of electricity down to next to nothing.  Especially in the heat waves of summer when they have to shut down thermal power plants because they can&#039;t provide enough cooling water.

Subsidies for solar and wind have been incredibly successful investments in our energy future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And look what is happening in the middle of the night in Texas.  Having lots of wind on their grid is driving the wholesale cost of electricity below zero at times.  Because of a small PTC  and no fuel costs wind can sell at or below $0.00/kWh and still make money.  That pulls down the wholesale cost of power and ruins the future of coal.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ercot.com/content/cdr/html/20111014_real_time_spp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ercot.com/content/cdr/html/20111014_real_time_spp</a></p>
<p>Now Texas needs some of that great $0.10/kWh to $0.15/kWh solar on its grid to bring down their daytime peak prices.</p>
<p>Texas.  USA.  American taxpayer money has brought the cost of electricity down to next to nothing.  Especially in the heat waves of summer when they have to shut down thermal power plants because they can&#8217;t provide enough cooling water.</p>
<p>Subsidies for solar and wind have been incredibly successful investments in our energy future.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueRock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlueRock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; ...their dependency on fossil fuels is about the same as ours. 

Germany just exceeded 20% from renewables.

&gt; The notion that Europe is virtuously avoiding the use of fossil fuels is a myth.

No, it&#039;s a strawman that you just set up in order to knock back down. However, more renewables were deployed in Europe (and the US) in 2010 than fossils + nukes combined. That pattern is not changing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; &#8230;their dependency on fossil fuels is about the same as ours. </p>
<p>Germany just exceeded 20% from renewables.</p>
<p>&gt; The notion that Europe is virtuously avoiding the use of fossil fuels is a myth.</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s a strawman that you just set up in order to knock back down. However, more renewables were deployed in Europe (and the US) in 2010 than fossils + nukes combined. That pattern is not changing.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueRock</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-108983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlueRock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Zachary already explained, you&#039;ve got it completely the wrong way around.

This &quot;blow toy fad&quot; is driving down electricity costs - largely due to something called &#039;merit order effect&#039;.

* Why wind is cutting energy costs. &quot;So how does “expensive” wind deliver cheaper energy prices? By a mechanism known as the merit order effect...&quot; http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/why-wind-cutting-energy-costs

* &quot;...price-dampening effect that large amounts of lower cost renewable energy sources (such as wind power) can have on spot market prices. This is attributed in large part to what is called the merit order effect.[29][30] This has led to electricity price reductions in Spain,[31] Denmark,[24] and Germany.&quot; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed-in_tariff#Effects_on_electricity_rates

China are not investing billions of $$$s in wind (+ solar) because they&#039;re a bunch of bong-smoking hippies. Think about it - or get a better anti-renewable talking point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Zachary already explained, you&#8217;ve got it completely the wrong way around.</p>
<p>This &#8220;blow toy fad&#8221; is driving down electricity costs &#8211; largely due to something called &#8216;merit order effect&#8217;.</p>
<p>* Why wind is cutting energy costs. &#8220;So how does “expensive” wind deliver cheaper energy prices? By a mechanism known as the merit order effect&#8230;&#8221; <a href="http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/why-wind-cutting-energy-costs" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/why-wind-cutting-energy-costs</a></p>
<p>* &#8220;&#8230;price-dampening effect that large amounts of lower cost renewable energy sources (such as wind power) can have on spot market prices. This is attributed in large part to what is called the merit order effect.[29][30] This has led to electricity price reductions in Spain,[31] Denmark,[24] and Germany.&#8221; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed-in_tariff#Effects_on_electricity_rates" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed-in_tariff#Effects_on_electricity_rates</a></p>
<p>China are not investing billions of $$$s in wind (+ solar) because they&#8217;re a bunch of bong-smoking hippies. Think about it &#8211; or get a better anti-renewable talking point.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-108976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you have an extra 24 hours stashed away somewhere Zach? Can&#039;t imagine how you deal with so much...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have an extra 24 hours stashed away somewhere Zach? Can&#8217;t imagine how you deal with so much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, you are so far off kilter i don&#039;t know if you are actually interested in looking at the facts or are paid to spread misinformation. Wind is the cheapest form of electricity in many places now, without subsidies!

it drives the price of electricity DOWN.

the 1603 and PTC does TONS &amp; TONS more for us than the billions in dollars the fossil fuel industry gets in subsidies, and is one of the best investments the government makes.

truthfully, after looking at this comments again, i can only assume that you work for the fossil fuel industry or have drunk some seriously out-of-date Kool Aid from the clean energy disinformation machine.

There&#039;s a reason why after years of booming wind energy growth the boom is projected to keep going at the same strength for years.

There&#039;s a reason more and more governments and investors are putting their money into wind rather than other energy sources. Think about it, dude -- people spending millions or billions of dollars on these things know how to do math. And no one can convince them anymore that it doesn&#039;t work,.. because wind is up all over the place and they can look at the results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you are so far off kilter i don&#8217;t know if you are actually interested in looking at the facts or are paid to spread misinformation. Wind is the cheapest form of electricity in many places now, without subsidies!</p>
<p>it drives the price of electricity DOWN.</p>
<p>the 1603 and PTC does TONS &amp; TONS more for us than the billions in dollars the fossil fuel industry gets in subsidies, and is one of the best investments the government makes.</p>
<p>truthfully, after looking at this comments again, i can only assume that you work for the fossil fuel industry or have drunk some seriously out-of-date Kool Aid from the clean energy disinformation machine.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason why after years of booming wind energy growth the boom is projected to keep going at the same strength for years.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason more and more governments and investors are putting their money into wind rather than other energy sources. Think about it, dude &#8212; people spending millions or billions of dollars on these things know how to do math. And no one can convince them anymore that it doesn&#8217;t work,.. because wind is up all over the place and they can look at the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The European leaders in installed wind power capacity have anywhere between 2.5 to 5 times as much nameplate wind generation capacity per capita as the United States.   Nevertheless, their dependency on fossil fuels is about the same as ours.  The notion that Europe is virtuously avoiding the use of fossil fuels is a myth.

The celebrated $6000 for Maine residents to buy heat storage units is also exaggerated.  The wind developer that offered this to a town of about 25 households has withdrawn its application for the project.  The Maine Dept. of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife deemed the project site inappropriate for large-scale wind development due to its likely negative impacts to many species of special interest wildlife.  

The developer is still threatening to press forward with the project anyway.  Oh, and the people in that town showed virtually no interest in the $6000 heating unit grants.  The fanfare of that &quot;innovative&quot; program dissolved pretty rapidly.  It was much ado about nothing.  This of course is not mentioned in this article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European leaders in installed wind power capacity have anywhere between 2.5 to 5 times as much nameplate wind generation capacity per capita as the United States.   Nevertheless, their dependency on fossil fuels is about the same as ours.  The notion that Europe is virtuously avoiding the use of fossil fuels is a myth.</p>
<p>The celebrated $6000 for Maine residents to buy heat storage units is also exaggerated.  The wind developer that offered this to a town of about 25 households has withdrawn its application for the project.  The Maine Dept. of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife deemed the project site inappropriate for large-scale wind development due to its likely negative impacts to many species of special interest wildlife.  </p>
<p>The developer is still threatening to press forward with the project anyway.  Oh, and the people in that town showed virtually no interest in the $6000 heating unit grants.  The fanfare of that &#8220;innovative&#8221; program dissolved pretty rapidly.  It was much ado about nothing.  This of course is not mentioned in this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-108951</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The economics will never be there, and this subsidy farce will do nothing more than increase electrical  costs for US citizens.
Stopping the 1603 grants and PTC should be the goal of any scientifically and economically oriented politician.
This blow toy fad has already increased EU costs of electricity significantly (look at Netherlands), and also increased need for fossil fuel use because wind has no base load capacity,
Wind will never power modernity, it only sucks subsidies. 
It is time this mature industry face economic reality with subsidy cessation. 
Doubling the kwh costs for end users will not be allowed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The economics will never be there, and this subsidy farce will do nothing more than increase electrical  costs for US citizens.<br />
Stopping the 1603 grants and PTC should be the goal of any scientifically and economically oriented politician.<br />
This blow toy fad has already increased EU costs of electricity significantly (look at Netherlands), and also increased need for fossil fuel use because wind has no base load capacity,<br />
Wind will never power modernity, it only sucks subsidies.<br />
It is time this mature industry face economic reality with subsidy cessation.<br />
Doubling the kwh costs for end users will not be allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/09/eu-statoil-siemens-hywind-floating-maine-pilot/#comment-108923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They already did that: they have a staggering 141 GW of offshore wind in the pipeline. But it will be a happy day for Maine&#039;s economy as my next post details... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They already did that: they have a staggering 141 GW of offshore wind in the pipeline. But it will be a happy day for Maine&#8217;s economy as my next post details&#8230; </p>
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