If you want to see the environmental damage that Central Banks, fiat currency, and MBAs are causing, come to Asia! Every city in Asia is feeling the effects of the US model.

If you are concerned about the environment, concerned about our resources, concerned about our oceans, concerned about your children and grandchildren… END THE FED!

The gold standard was not perfect, but it was an imperfect regulator of sorts for an imperfect world which is much better than we have today. Washington DC is not interested in regulators unless they carry a badge and a gun and beat citizens down… It’s time we changed their attitude about all this….

If you don’t understand what I mean, find some charts that measure “economic” growth in the world, and the introduction of fiat currency. The hyperbolic growth of our world is directly correlated to the devaluation of our currency.

….And incidently Thumbs Up for the work of Cleantechnica..

We can do all of these things because most are [or soon will be] the most cost effective approach. You don’t get companies like Google, GE, Exxon-Mobile and others to invest in ‘global warming’. They invest in things they can CONTROL As a retired engineer, I really don’t think it makes one bit of difference HOW we achieve our goals just as long as we do and that to me is one of the problems with the term ‘global warming’. It is not a GOAL, A PLAN or STRATEGIC objective, it professes to be a statement of fact or at best a statement of a static condition [the globe is warming]. The term global warming doesn’t DO anything – it only states a condition and doesn’t do that very well either.

When people write goal statements they usually contain action statements like:
# I intend on reducing my carbon footprint by 25% this year or
# I plan on buying an electric car next year because they require less maintenance or
# Next year I am going to try the train between L.A. and Las Vegas instead of driving, or
# I am going to write a letter to my city council to encourage the use of solar on public buildings.

While every one of the above statements has something to do with global warming the term is never used or even needed. I believe that a large majority of the American people would be responsive to those types of actions. I can SELL goals, plans, strategic objectives and visions to an American Company or the American people – I can not sell ‘global warming’ since it is not a product or service.

I sure hope this makes sense to someone. We can do hundreds of things to make our lives better without ever using the term ‘global warming’. I can’t sell a homeowner ‘global warming’ but I can sell them a 5 kW PV system for their home because in 7-10 years they can be enjoying free electricity.
In the end aren’t they the same thing?

However, the first three points mentioned by larry which you quote are completely UNTRUE.

This has been determined in 9 (count them, 9!) investigations.

And this is why every overarching scientific organization in the world supports the climate scientists.

http://planetsave.com/2011/11/25/one-more-climategate-post/

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/11/22/374559/fool-me-once-shame-on-you-fool-me-twice-shame-on-the-media-more-stolen-emails-global-warming/

and a fun one i wrote on the topic:

http://planetsave.com/2011/11/24/your-email-got-hacked-someones-making-you-look-like-a-robber-to-the-police/

“Fixing Climate” is an excellent example…

Yes, there are numerous factors involved, not all of them completely understood, but reading this shows that the greenhouse effect is the key, and that CO2 is the prime agent…

Quite trying to clean up our air and water by promoting renewable energy. Why does it always have to come down to what a bunch of research scientists have to said. As an individual don’t you want clean air and water? Can’t we as individuals decide that these should be universal goals. I can’t understand how someone can be against a cleaner environment which is better for all of us including our planet.

Tom G.

You have zero data on which to base any knowledge. In fact, a belief that global climate change is a hoax requires that one dismiss an incredibly large body of knowledge which makes global climate change settled science.

You’re free to believe whatever you want. If you want to believe that wearing a tin foil hat keeps the government from making you impotent, wear away.

You are not free to make up facts.

“(1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; ”

Proven incorrect.

“(2) these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and”

Proven incorrect.

“(3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data.”

Proven incorrect.

I gave you the link disproving your claims. If you wish to stick by them then I guess that makes you dishonest, eh?

The dishonesty is obvious, and it is not by me.

The usual gang of misinformers have attempted to make something out of them by taking bits and pieces out of context but those attempts have fallen flat on its butt.

Here’s a investigative piece which shows that ‘friends of larry’ are talking trash.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/24/leaked-climate-science-emails?newsfeed=true

Shame on you larry. Either for being dishonest or for being a dupe.

A new batch of 5,000 emails among scientists central to the assertion that humans are causing a global warming crisis were anonymously released to the public yesterday, igniting a new firestorm of controversy nearly two years to the day after similar emails ignited the Climategate scandal.

Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2) these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data.

So party on you alarmists, perhaps one day you will see the foolishness of your naivety.

When it comes down to it, humans are causing almost/all of the warming. Even the large number of cows burping methane we have to lay at the feet of humans. We are artificially creating massive herds. CO2 is the largest factor, contributing something over 40% of the total. Even our farming methods contribute to CO2 release and apparently have since humans began farming.

Contributions from ‘natural’ sources? I’m unaware of any. The Sun has not been increasing its output, has actually decreased a bit. We were likely in a long term slide into another ice age prior to the start of the Industrial Revolution. There are some ‘natural’ forces beginning to speed warming, things like increased CO2 and methane from the thawing Arctic and loss of albedo from areas no longer covered with ice and snow, but that’s only because humans kicked the process into gear.

I don’t hear complaining. What I hear is warnings.

But I’m with you at the ripe old age of 67. Let’s lean harder on our elected officials, especially those who are throwing up roadblocks in order to help their fossil fuel industry friends. Let’s speed the transition away from fossil fuels and install renewables so that we leave a habitable Earth to those who follow us.