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	<title>Comments on: World Bank Group Co-Finances Morocco&#8217;s Ouarzazate 500 MW Solar Thermal Power Project</title>
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		<title>By: China Development Bank Finances LDK-SPI Solar International Expansion Plans &#124; Solar Energy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[China Development Bank Finances LDK-SPI Solar International Expansion Plans &#124; Solar Energy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] World Bank Group Co-Finances Morocco&#8217;s Ouarzazate 500 MW Solar Thermal Power Project [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Africa at the Energy Crossroads: AfDB Finances Historic Renewable Energy &#8230; &#124; Nigeria Newsline</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Africa at the Energy Crossroads: AfDB Finances Historic Renewable Energy &#8230; &#124; Nigeria Newsline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on the heels of participating in the financing of Morocco’s 500 megawatt (MW) Ouarzazate concentrated solar power (CSP) project, the African Development Bank (AfDB) announced the signing [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on the heels of participating in the financing of Morocco’s 500 megawatt (MW) Ouarzazate concentrated solar power (CSP) project, the African Development Bank (AfDB) announced the signing [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Africa at the Energy Crossroads: AfDB Finances Historic Renewable Energy Projects in South Africa, Morocco &#171; MoroccoTomorrow</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on the heels of participating in the financing of Morocco’s 500 megawatt (MW) Ouarzazate concentrated solar power (CSP) project, the African Development Bank (AfDB) announced the signing [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on the heels of participating in the financing of Morocco’s 500 megawatt (MW) Ouarzazate concentrated solar power (CSP) project, the African Development Bank (AfDB) announced the signing [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Africa at the Energy Crossroads: AfDB Finances Historic Renewable Energy &#8230; &#124; Alternative Energy &#8211; Solar PV &#8211; Heat Pumps &#8211; Renewables</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/11/19/world-bank-group-co-finances-moroccos-ouarzazate-500-mw-solar-thermal-power-project/#comment-107989</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on the heels of participating in the financing of Moroccos 500 megawatt (MW) Ouarzazate concentrated solar power (CSP) project, the African Development Bank (AfDB) announced the signing [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on the heels of participating in the financing of Moroccos 500 megawatt (MW) Ouarzazate concentrated solar power (CSP) project, the African Development Bank (AfDB) announced the signing [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Africa Energy X-Roads: AfDB Funds Historic Clean Energy Projects &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Africa Energy X-Roads: AfDB Funds Historic Clean Energy Projects &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 08:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] AfDB Hot on the heels of participating in the financing of Morocco&#8217;s 500 megawatt (MW) Ouarzazate concentrated solar power (CSP) project, the African Development Bank (AfDB) announced the signing [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] AfDB Hot on the heels of participating in the financing of Morocco&#8217;s 500 megawatt (MW) Ouarzazate concentrated solar power (CSP) project, the African Development Bank (AfDB) announced the signing [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Creating jobs and improving electricity supplies in North Africa  are the sorts of things that keep people from extremist positions.  People with a future tend to not get involved in extremist movements.  Some of the world&#039;s worst problems are born from desperation.

The Iraq and Afghanistan wars have nothing to do with each other, except for the time frame in which they were started.  One is commonly agreed to be justified.  The other, illegal.

I suppose they do have in common the fact that they were horribly managed by the administration  that started them....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creating jobs and improving electricity supplies in North Africa  are the sorts of things that keep people from extremist positions.  People with a future tend to not get involved in extremist movements.  Some of the world&#8217;s worst problems are born from desperation.</p>
<p>The Iraq and Afghanistan wars have nothing to do with each other, except for the time frame in which they were started.  One is commonly agreed to be justified.  The other, illegal.</p>
<p>I suppose they do have in common the fact that they were horribly managed by the administration  that started them&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as they don&#039;t turn Northern Africa into another Iraq/Afghanistan...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as they don&#8217;t turn Northern Africa into another Iraq/Afghanistan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no doubt that the fossil fuel industry wields a lot of power in Washington.  The Koch brothers finance the Tea Party.

It&#039;s not clear what the future of CSP plants will be.  The price of solar panels is dropping so rapidly that some CSP projects have been turned into PV projects.

We don&#039;t need storage in large amounts yet.  This means that the storage part of CSP isn&#039;t bringing large value to the market right now.  The big issue will be whether CSP with storage will turn out to be cheaper than PV/wind and storage.  Since solar and wind would share the same storage systems thermal storage might not be the cheap answer.

It looks like we have two promising low-cost storage solutions ahead.  

First is using EV batteries for storage.  Most people will drive fewer miles than their batteries will hold.  That extra capacity can be rented to grid managers.  The new Toshiba SCiB batteries are good for 4,000 or more full discharge/charge cycles.  For the Honda Fit EV that would mean a &gt;400,000 mile battery life.  Plenty to rent out and make some money for the car owner.

Second is a new sodium-ion battery going into production.  At least 5,000 cycles and possibly more than 20,000.  As cheap or cheaper than lead acid batteries.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that the fossil fuel industry wields a lot of power in Washington.  The Koch brothers finance the Tea Party.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not clear what the future of CSP plants will be.  The price of solar panels is dropping so rapidly that some CSP projects have been turned into PV projects.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need storage in large amounts yet.  This means that the storage part of CSP isn&#8217;t bringing large value to the market right now.  The big issue will be whether CSP with storage will turn out to be cheaper than PV/wind and storage.  Since solar and wind would share the same storage systems thermal storage might not be the cheap answer.</p>
<p>It looks like we have two promising low-cost storage solutions ahead.  </p>
<p>First is using EV batteries for storage.  Most people will drive fewer miles than their batteries will hold.  That extra capacity can be rented to grid managers.  The new Toshiba SCiB batteries are good for 4,000 or more full discharge/charge cycles.  For the Honda Fit EV that would mean a &gt;400,000 mile battery life.  Plenty to rent out and make some money for the car owner.</p>
<p>Second is a new sodium-ion battery going into production.  At least 5,000 cycles and possibly more than 20,000.  As cheap or cheaper than lead acid batteries.</p>
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		<title>By: ow lafaye</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ow lafaye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that CSP plants could be installed at the cost of a similiar capacity, coal powered plant...and construction completed in 1/3 of the time.

Once installed, this is essentially FREE power...Is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wrong? or is it our government, controlled by oil and coal interests that is wrong?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that CSP plants could be installed at the cost of a similiar capacity, coal powered plant&#8230;and construction completed in 1/3 of the time.</p>
<p>Once installed, this is essentially FREE power&#8230;Is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wrong? or is it our government, controlled by oil and coal interests that is wrong?</p>
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