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	<title>Comments on: Jump-Starting the Hydrogen Economy: AFC Energy Takes a Back to Basics, Commercial Approach</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My objection was to the statement made in the first paragraph.  I then agreed that if someone has found a source of hydrogen which does not result in additional carbon being released into the atmosphere, that could be a good thing.

My response was due to the thoughtless way hydrogen is pushed as a legitimate green fuel when, in fact, most of our hydrogen comes from natural gas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My objection was to the statement made in the first paragraph.  I then agreed that if someone has found a source of hydrogen which does not result in additional carbon being released into the atmosphere, that could be a good thing.</p>
<p>My response was due to the thoughtless way hydrogen is pushed as a legitimate green fuel when, in fact, most of our hydrogen comes from natural gas.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Korea to Build World's Largest Offshore Wind Farm, Industry &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S. Korea to Build World's Largest Offshore Wind Farm, Industry &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] terms of spurring development of clean and renewable energy.Other clean energy initiatives include feed-in tariffs for renewable energy, subsidies of up to 80% for installing certain types of renewable energy systems, and long term, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] terms of spurring development of clean and renewable energy.Other clean energy initiatives include feed-in tariffs for renewable energy, subsidies of up to 80% for installing certain types of renewable energy systems, and long term, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Banks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Banks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob, take a look at this link. http://www.afcenergy.com/RNS/110930_BetaCommissioningBitterfeld.pdf
AFC have a fuel cell system in place at Akzo using their waste electricity.  It has passed the hazard testing proceedure earlier this summer and is currently being trialled with electrodes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, take a look at this link. <a href="http://www.afcenergy.com/RNS/110930_BetaCommissioningBitterfeld.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.afcenergy.com/RNS/110930_BetaCommissioningBitterfeld.pdf</a><br />
AFC have a fuel cell system in place at Akzo using their waste electricity.  It has passed the hazard testing proceedure earlier this summer and is currently being trialled with electrodes.</p>
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		<title>By: Akbweb2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually capturing pure hydrogen by-product from chemical plants and using it to fuel fuel cells is exactly what this is about...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually capturing pure hydrogen by-product from chemical plants and using it to fuel fuel cells is exactly what this is about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Suailer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BoB,
Not mentioned in the interview but did you know that in chlor-alcali industry is hydroge by-product and 1% of electricity generated worl-wide is used by this industry. That&#039;s the prime target for the AFC&#039;s fuel cells.... and that&#039;s just start, if successful they could replace turbines as they are cheaper, more scalalbe, more flexible, more efficient. Next applications: UCG, waste gasification ...
Will not happened over a night of course ....time will tell ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BoB,<br />
Not mentioned in the interview but did you know that in chlor-alcali industry is hydroge by-product and 1% of electricity generated worl-wide is used by this industry. That&#8217;s the prime target for the AFC&#8217;s fuel cells&#8230;. and that&#8217;s just start, if successful they could replace turbines as they are cheaper, more scalalbe, more flexible, more efficient. Next applications: UCG, waste gasification &#8230;<br />
Will not happened over a night of course &#8230;.time will tell </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to object even before I get past the first paragraph.

Please don&#039;t try to tell us that companies have been installing &quot;fuel cell systems as primary or back-up sources of clean electrical power&quot;.

The fuel for fuel cells is not clean.  Carbon is being extracted from below the Earth&#039;s surface and ending up in the atmosphere as CO2.  Current fuel cell generators are using methane/natural gas or hydrogen made from natural gas.

Now, if someone has a plan to capture by-product hydrogen and use it in fuel cells, fine.  But that is not what is happening with fuel cells now in operation.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to object even before I get past the first paragraph.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t try to tell us that companies have been installing &#8220;fuel cell systems as primary or back-up sources of clean electrical power&#8221;.</p>
<p>The fuel for fuel cells is not clean.  Carbon is being extracted from below the Earth&#8217;s surface and ending up in the atmosphere as CO2.  Current fuel cell generators are using methane/natural gas or hydrogen made from natural gas.</p>
<p>Now, if someone has a plan to capture by-product hydrogen and use it in fuel cells, fine.  But that is not what is happening with fuel cells now in operation.  </p>
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