People just aren’t buying your line of disinformation any longer. Rail on, son. You’ve lost your mojo.

Turning carbon into the driver of heat is a deception at best. Heat drives carbon, not the other way round.

Yall can fall for MCGW if you want. But those of us who don’t believe Reefer Madness style fear based propaganda also have not been ‘had’ by Al Gore’s new religion.

Great spin on climate gate. I don’t buy it.

SamFox

I think some of them will go to their deathbed thinking up “possible” explanations other than the obvious.

we could also see if they can do basic math or science

Of course, it’s highly unlikely that a very intelligent denier could go any deeper. There’s nothing to back up the common talking points, the got no stinkin’ data.

It’s true. It’s a completely illogical argument. I don’t know which would be sadder — if they believed what they wrote or if they were paid to spread nonsense

This is a favorite bogus argument loved by deniers. The failed logic they try to push is that if something happened before for a different reason then it couldn’t be due to a different reason this time around.

“Wow, how did you get that shiner?”

“My wife punched me.”

“No way, man, back when we were in junior high you had a black eye and you weren’t married then. So, tell me, how did it really happen?”

You’ll often see this argument made along the lines of in previous hot cycles CO2 buildup followed the onset of warming. And because that’s the way things happened before that proves it couldn’t be human-produced CO2 this time.

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Excellent post, Zack. Copied to my denier file for future use.

It’s not the Sun. Solar output has been stable or slightly lower for some time.

It’s not Earth orbit. Based on orbital changes we should be in a cooling cycle, heading into a new ice age.

It’s not a lot of volcanic activity, the rise of a new mountain range changing air flow patterns, a movement of continents changing ocean current patterns.

So, what do you hold to be the natural cause for observed warming?

And, no, we haven’t had “numerous ice ages in the fairly recent past that were initiated by the same exact circumstances we now have”.

If you’re talking about the cooling period(s) of a few hundred years ago, which “NASA defines the term as a cold period between 1550 AD and 1850 AD and notes three particularly cold intervals: one beginning about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850″ that was a modest cooling period restricted mainly to the northern hemisphere, not a global phenomenon.

And, interestingly, data has emerged which suggests that the “Little Ice
Age” might have been a human-caused event.

Prior to 1492, when Columbus sailed the oceans blue, the Americas were
populated with somewhere between 30 and 60 million people. When Europeans
arrived they brought with them diseases for which Americans had no
resistance. Probably 90% of all Americans died. That led to a vast
reforestation of the Americas and it is estimated that those new trees were
sufficient to soak up enough CO2 to reduce northern
hemisphere temperatures. Throw in a lot less black carbon (soot) from all
the cooking/heating fires which were no longer needed by all those dead
people.

But, enough diversion, your answer to what natural force is driving global
temperatures higher. And driven them up at a rate extremely faster than
has apparently never happened before?