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		<title>By: John Farrell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Farrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alvin,

That map comes from ILSR&#039;s Energy Self-Reliant States report, published in 2010.  You&#039;re welcome to put it up on Solargardens.org, with attribution.  Say hello to Joy for me.

Sincerely,
John ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alvin,</p>
<p>That map comes from ILSR&#8217;s Energy Self-Reliant States report, published in 2010.  You&#8217;re welcome to put it up on Solargardens.org, with attribution.  Say hello to Joy for me.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
John </p>
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		<title>By: Alvin Mites</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alvin Mites]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious where you got the potential solar % by rooftop graphic would like to use it on http://solargardens.org Appreciate the article, does a great job of detailing the potential of solar in the US were it to become a legislative priority similar to Germany.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious where you got the potential solar % by rooftop graphic would like to use it on <a href="http://solargardens.org" rel="nofollow">http://solargardens.org</a> Appreciate the article, does a great job of detailing the potential of solar in the US were it to become a legislative priority similar to Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: Cal Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cal Morton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in the solar and small wind business in Texas, so I appreciate the enthusiasm, and its fun to play with numbers. However, if we can get solar to 5% of total average load in 5 years, I&#039;m talking Texas, that would be awesome... about 1,500 MW. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the solar and small wind business in Texas, so I appreciate the enthusiasm, and its fun to play with numbers. However, if we can get solar to 5% of total average load in 5 years, I&#8217;m talking Texas, that would be awesome&#8230; about 1,500 MW. </p>
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		<title>By: Solar Electricity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solar Electricity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have brought up very fantastic points, thank you for the post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have brought up very fantastic points, thank you for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Freealex1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freealex1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If Americans installed local solar at the same torrid pace, we could already power most of the Mountain West, could have a 100 percent solar nation by 2026....&quot;

This claim seems wrong. The facts presented are:
- So Germany, with ~82 million people have installed 10GWp over two years, or 5GWp per year. That is 0.06GW / million people.
- The USA has ~300 million people. 0.06GW / million people = 18GWp / per annum

So that implies:
- The installed generation capacity of the USA is ~ 1,000GWp. So at 18GW / annum, it would take ~55 years to get to 1,000GW. 
- Of course, the US doesn&#039;t use 100GW all 8,760 hours per year. The load/capacity factor of US generation capacity is about 50%. But you can&#039;t discount that to 500GW, unless you also discount the capacity factor of solar PV (which is between 10-20% across the US)

If I&#039;m making a mistake, my apologies. But it would appear that either the claim above is incorrect, or is using some other underlying assumptions (perhaps an ever-increasing rate of installation or the like).

But either way, such claims should be treated with caution. And such grand claims should certainly be explained a bit more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Americans installed local solar at the same torrid pace, we could already power most of the Mountain West, could have a 100 percent solar nation by 2026&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>This claim seems wrong. The facts presented are:<br />
&#8211; So Germany, with ~82 million people have installed 10GWp over two years, or 5GWp per year. That is 0.06GW / million people.<br />
&#8211; The USA has ~300 million people. 0.06GW / million people = 18GWp / per annum</p>
<p>So that implies:<br />
&#8211; The installed generation capacity of the USA is ~ 1,000GWp. So at 18GW / annum, it would take ~55 years to get to 1,000GW.<br />
&#8211; Of course, the US doesn&#8217;t use 100GW all 8,760 hours per year. The load/capacity factor of US generation capacity is about 50%. But you can&#8217;t discount that to 500GW, unless you also discount the capacity factor of solar PV (which is between 10-20% across the US)</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m making a mistake, my apologies. But it would appear that either the claim above is incorrect, or is using some other underlying assumptions (perhaps an ever-increasing rate of installation or the like).</p>
<p>But either way, such claims should be treated with caution. And such grand claims should certainly be explained a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O&#8217;Reilly on Local Solar Could Power Mountain West Post (Reader Comment) &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim O&#8217;Reilly on Local Solar Could Power Mountain West Post (Reader Comment) &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So?  It does make more sense to install solar panels where the Sun shines most, as long as transmission makes sense.

Germany is doing fine with panels installed Germany.  Putting them close to point of use takes care of higher summer supply needs and Germany has summer sun.

Germany can also profit from panels located further south.  One does not rule out the other.

Germany has been able to get nuclear off their grid and will be eliminating coal.  And they are able to do that without driving their electricity prices through the roof.  

Just think what a &quot;Fukishima&quot; might cost in Germany.

And, if Germans are paying anything like we are in the US in hidden coal prices, think about how many taxpayer dollars they will save by getting rid of coal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So?  It does make more sense to install solar panels where the Sun shines most, as long as transmission makes sense.</p>
<p>Germany is doing fine with panels installed Germany.  Putting them close to point of use takes care of higher summer supply needs and Germany has summer sun.</p>
<p>Germany can also profit from panels located further south.  One does not rule out the other.</p>
<p>Germany has been able to get nuclear off their grid and will be eliminating coal.  And they are able to do that without driving their electricity prices through the roof.  </p>
<p>Just think what a &#8220;Fukishima&#8221; might cost in Germany.</p>
<p>And, if Germans are paying anything like we are in the US in hidden coal prices, think about how many taxpayer dollars they will save by getting rid of coal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Sunshine could power 10 states!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Ten of the least densely populated in the country. If they merged into one, it would be only the third most populous, edging out New York. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Germans have found the profitable marriage between their energy and environmental policy.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Opinions differ. 

&quot;German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Tuesday solar energy subsidies should be reduced, and it could make more sense in the future to draw solar energy from places like Greece, where the sun shined longer.

Merkel said that while wind energy seemed on track to becoming commercially viable in Germany, this did not seem the case for solar energy.&quot;
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/04/us-germany-merkel-idUSTRE7936D920111004
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Sunshine could power 10 states!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Ten of the least densely populated in the country. If they merged into one, it would be only the third most populous, edging out New York. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;The Germans have found the profitable marriage between their energy and environmental policy.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Opinions differ. </p>
<p>&#8220;German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Tuesday solar energy subsidies should be reduced, and it could make more sense in the future to draw solar energy from places like Greece, where the sun shined longer.</p>
<p>Merkel said that while wind energy seemed on track to becoming commercially viable in Germany, this did not seem the case for solar energy.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/04/us-germany-merkel-idUSTRE7936D920111004" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/04/us-germany-merkel-idUSTRE7936D920111004</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If Americans installed local solar at the same torrid pace, we could already power most of the Mountain West, could have a 100 percent solar nation by 2026....&quot;

That&#039;s a misleading claim unless you include a method to store that power at an affordable price in order to make solar 24/365.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Americans installed local solar at the same torrid pace, we could already power most of the Mountain West, could have a 100 percent solar nation by 2026&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a misleading claim unless you include a method to store that power at an affordable price in order to make solar 24/365.</p>
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