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	<title>Comments on: Penn State Researchers Discover Method of Off-Grid Hydrogen Production</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Miller]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remain a champion of methane gas from Anaerobic manure/humanure, offal digestions because:  We can easily bottle it in existing &quot;propane tanks&quot; for very long times without losses. Exotic technologies needed to store and use H2 frighten me off. The loss of the O2 robs energy? Methane on the other hand, burns in common mantles for light, propane stoves, and can even run current designed gasoline engines with current methane carburetors. (even your gasoline rotor tiller, water pump, or generator) Crosley &#039;IcyBalls can be heated with methane in a pinch, but Solar arrays of Fresnel lenses will serve best for refrigeration.



	
	
	
	
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Google: &quot;Crosley Icyball&quot; and
draw your own conclusions.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/04
/14/cool_fridge_without_using_electricity.htm

Can we build a &quot;cold cellar&quot;
using a Fresnel lens array, and a Crosley Icyball?
There is a future in America after the Cheap Oil Era, once the radioactive wastes from that unsustainable extravagance are cleaned up. I hope.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remain a champion of methane gas from Anaerobic manure/humanure, offal digestions because:  We can easily bottle it in existing &#8220;propane tanks&#8221; for very long times without losses. Exotic technologies needed to store and use H2 frighten me off. The loss of the O2 robs energy? Methane on the other hand, burns in common mantles for light, propane stoves, and can even run current designed gasoline engines with current methane carburetors. (even your gasoline rotor tiller, water pump, or generator) Crosley &#8216;IcyBalls can be heated with methane in a pinch, but Solar arrays of Fresnel lenses will serve best for refrigeration.</p>
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<p>Google: &#8220;Crosley Icyball&#8221; and<br />
draw your own conclusions.</p>
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<p>Can we build a &#8220;cold cellar&#8221;<br />
using a Fresnel lens array, and a Crosley Icyball?<br />
There is a future in America after the Cheap Oil Era, once the radioactive wastes from that unsustainable extravagance are cleaned up. I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Hydrogen Storage-Fuel Cells to Smooth Out German Wind Power &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/20/penn-state-researchers-discover-method-of-off-grid-hydrogen-production/#comment-105455</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hydrogen Storage-Fuel Cells to Smooth Out German Wind Power &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Develops &#8216;Artifical Leaf&#8217; that Splits Water, Produces Hydrogen &amp; Oxygen GasPenn St. Researchers Discover Method of Off-Grid Hydrogen Production  /**/ ShareShareDiggEmailPrint No commentsTags:clean techclean technologyenergy storageFCVsfuel [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Develops &#8216;Artifical Leaf&#8217; that Splits Water, Produces Hydrogen &amp; Oxygen GasPenn St. Researchers Discover Method of Off-Grid Hydrogen Production  /**/ ShareShareDiggEmailPrint No commentsTags:clean techclean technologyenergy storageFCVsfuel [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: David Anderson</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/20/penn-state-researchers-discover-method-of-off-grid-hydrogen-production/#comment-104763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW. yes please!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW. yes please!</p>
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		<title>By: sola</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/20/penn-state-researchers-discover-method-of-off-grid-hydrogen-production/#comment-104770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like a huge invention.

Even if saltwater needs to be pumped to inland locations the energy efficiency of the process may remain appealing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a huge invention.</p>
<p>Even if saltwater needs to be pumped to inland locations the energy efficiency of the process may remain appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could be the discovery of the century, but we&#039;ll have to wait to see if it scales.

If it does it might make more sense to ship salt to the interior of continents than to ship finished hydrogen.

I&#039;ll like to see someone do some large scale projections.  Using fast food grease for biodiesel works at the lab level, but it doesn&#039;t scale as a replacement for petroleum. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be the discovery of the century, but we&#8217;ll have to wait to see if it scales.</p>
<p>If it does it might make more sense to ship salt to the interior of continents than to ship finished hydrogen.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll like to see someone do some large scale projections.  Using fast food grease for biodiesel works at the lab level, but it doesn&#8217;t scale as a replacement for petroleum. </p>
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		<title>By: Jaded</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jaded]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, great work! Unfortunately what will happen is that a large energy company will buy the technology and bury it forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, great work! Unfortunately what will happen is that a large energy company will buy the technology and bury it forever.</p>
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		<title>By: AngryBuddha</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/20/penn-state-researchers-discover-method-of-off-grid-hydrogen-production/#comment-104761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AngryBuddha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a really BIG deal!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really BIG deal!</p>
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