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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/peak-oil-peak-debt-and-the-concentration-of-power/#comment-104969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jeez.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeez.</p>
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		<title>By: Ant Standring</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ant Standring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Verve actually walked away with 0% of the royalties, after Oldham&#039;s insistence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Verve actually walked away with 0% of the royalties, after Oldham&#8217;s insistence.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks a lot, Ed. it is getting crazy.

Susan just published on that new database, too. Love Waxman :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot, Ed. it is getting crazy.</p>
<p>Susan just published on that new database, too. Love Waxman <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really!

That&#039;s interesting (and ridiculous).

Well, I&#039;m happy to know it, because I love this song -- one of my favorites all time -- and the Rolling Stones &#039;versio&#039; i heard (awhile back now) didn&#039;t seem to compare :D

$$ (ridiculous)

Thanks for the info! :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting (and ridiculous).</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m happy to know it, because I love this song &#8212; one of my favorites all time &#8212; and the Rolling Stones &#8216;versio&#8217; i heard (awhile back now) didn&#8217;t seem to compare <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>$$ (ridiculous)</p>
<p>Thanks for the info! <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: TeeJayMasterson</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Zachary,

Love reading your articles.  Really concise and well-researched.  But...

I&#039;m also a huge fan of the VERVE.  Just wanted to set the record straight on that song.

&quot;Although the song&#039;s lyrics were written by Verve vocalist Richard Ashcroft, it has been credited to Keith Richards and Mick Jagger after charges by the original copyright owners that the song was plagiarized from the Andrew Oldham Orchestra recording of The Rolling Stones&#039; 1965 song &quot;The Last Time.&quot;

Originally, The Verve had negotiated a licence to use a sample from the Oldham recording, but it was successfully argued that the Verve had used &quot;too much&quot; of the sample.[5] Despite having original lyrics, the music of &quot;Bitter Sweet Symphony&quot; is partially based on the Oldham track, which led to a lawsuit with Abkco Records, Allen Klein&#039;s company that owns the rights to the Rolling Stones material of the 1960s. The matter was eventually settled, with copyright of the song reverting to Abkco and songwriting credits to Jagger and Richards.&quot;

They got a raw deal on this.  Just goes to show how lawyers are EVIL - and Record Companies are just as bad as Environmentally Irresponsible corporations.

Keep up the great work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Zachary,</p>
<p>Love reading your articles.  Really concise and well-researched.  But&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a huge fan of the VERVE.  Just wanted to set the record straight on that song.</p>
<p>&#8220;Although the song&#8217;s lyrics were written by Verve vocalist Richard Ashcroft, it has been credited to Keith Richards and Mick Jagger after charges by the original copyright owners that the song was plagiarized from the Andrew Oldham Orchestra recording of The Rolling Stones&#8217; 1965 song &#8220;The Last Time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Originally, The Verve had negotiated a licence to use a sample from the Oldham recording, but it was successfully argued that the Verve had used &#8220;too much&#8221; of the sample.[5] Despite having original lyrics, the music of &#8220;Bitter Sweet Symphony&#8221; is partially based on the Oldham track, which led to a lawsuit with Abkco Records, Allen Klein&#8217;s company that owns the rights to the Rolling Stones material of the 1960s. The matter was eventually settled, with copyright of the song reverting to Abkco and songwriting credits to Jagger and Richards.&#8221;</p>
<p>They got a raw deal on this.  Just goes to show how lawyers are EVIL &#8211; and Record Companies are just as bad as Environmentally Irresponsible corporations.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...the trend toward increasing concentration is nearing its peak, or has peaked already...&quot;

Has it?

Let me suggest that something else is happening.  The oil and coal industries are reaching the end of their natural lives.  Just as the whale oil industry, the harness and wagon making industries, the vacuum tube industries had good runs, fossil fuel industries rose, peaked, and are to be replaced with something better over the next several years.

If anything we have a larger problem of increasing concentration, just in other parts of our economies.  One can&#039;t start a small grocery store or hardware store any longer and make a living.  One has to either join a franchise operation or become an employee of a &quot;Walmart&quot;.

Large utility and communication companies are buying each other up.  Our businesses and banks are often no longer local but international.  Fewer and fewer of us are business owners, rather we&#039;re becoming a world of employees with the power and influence becoming more and more concentrated into fewer and fewer hands.

Watching the financial problems of Europe will show one how our world is getting more and more concentrated.  The fear that Greece might default brings US and China players into the effort to avoid default as all our economies are so entwined that failure in one part is damaging to all.

Information and entertainment might be the only things which are escaping the ongoing concentration we&#039;re undergoing.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the trend toward increasing concentration is nearing its peak, or has peaked already&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Has it?</p>
<p>Let me suggest that something else is happening.  The oil and coal industries are reaching the end of their natural lives.  Just as the whale oil industry, the harness and wagon making industries, the vacuum tube industries had good runs, fossil fuel industries rose, peaked, and are to be replaced with something better over the next several years.</p>
<p>If anything we have a larger problem of increasing concentration, just in other parts of our economies.  One can&#8217;t start a small grocery store or hardware store any longer and make a living.  One has to either join a franchise operation or become an employee of a &#8220;Walmart&#8221;.</p>
<p>Large utility and communication companies are buying each other up.  Our businesses and banks are often no longer local but international.  Fewer and fewer of us are business owners, rather we&#8217;re becoming a world of employees with the power and influence becoming more and more concentrated into fewer and fewer hands.</p>
<p>Watching the financial problems of Europe will show one how our world is getting more and more concentrated.  The fear that Greece might default brings US and China players into the effort to avoid default as all our economies are so entwined that failure in one part is damaging to all.</p>
<p>Information and entertainment might be the only things which are escaping the ongoing concentration we&#8217;re undergoing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;... a transition in the whole energy infrastructure, both physical and psychological; a transition away from big power plants, distribution lines, and metered consumers; away from capital-intensive drilling, refining, distribution, and consumer fueling stations.&quot;

I don&#039;t think so.  

Yes, some people will install solar on their roofs, but I would bet far less than half of all.  Those living in apartments, condos, rentals and houses poorly sited for solar generally won&#039;t.  Along with many who could install solar but just won&#039;t get around to it.

Wind doesn&#039;t work on small scale.  It&#039;s much more efficient to put our wind dollars into very tall towers at the best wind sites.  Geothermal, tidal, wave and hydro generation are also site-limited and not technologies for Joe and Jane Homeowner.

What we most likely to have is a portion of end users becoming small scale providers.  Think of it as an individual with a productive home garden who sells a few bushels of produce to the grocery store from time to time.  They still depend on the grocery to distribute that produce to others and they still rely on the grocery for those things which their garden does not produce.

While solar on ones roof can provide the electricity to replace liquid fuel, it may not produce that electricity at a convenient time and place for charging ones EV.  It will work better to sell that electricity to the grid and then buy back electricity as needed, where needed and when needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; a transition in the whole energy infrastructure, both physical and psychological; a transition away from big power plants, distribution lines, and metered consumers; away from capital-intensive drilling, refining, distribution, and consumer fueling stations.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so.  </p>
<p>Yes, some people will install solar on their roofs, but I would bet far less than half of all.  Those living in apartments, condos, rentals and houses poorly sited for solar generally won&#8217;t.  Along with many who could install solar but just won&#8217;t get around to it.</p>
<p>Wind doesn&#8217;t work on small scale.  It&#8217;s much more efficient to put our wind dollars into very tall towers at the best wind sites.  Geothermal, tidal, wave and hydro generation are also site-limited and not technologies for Joe and Jane Homeowner.</p>
<p>What we most likely to have is a portion of end users becoming small scale providers.  Think of it as an individual with a productive home garden who sells a few bushels of produce to the grocery store from time to time.  They still depend on the grocery to distribute that produce to others and they still rely on the grocery for those things which their garden does not produce.</p>
<p>While solar on ones roof can provide the electricity to replace liquid fuel, it may not produce that electricity at a convenient time and place for charging ones EV.  It will work better to sell that electricity to the grid and then buy back electricity as needed, where needed and when needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Hundreds of Protesters Try to Descend on Wall Street, Blocked by Police &#124; Planetsave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hundreds of Protesters Try to Descend on Wall Street, Blocked by Police &#124; Planetsave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] tremendous (and growing) power and wealth divide in the U.S. is closely tied to our energy and environmental problems. Solving one must mean solving the other. Thus, this news about protesters try to start a massive, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] tremendous (and growing) power and wealth divide in the U.S. is closely tied to our energy and environmental problems. Solving one must mean solving the other. Thus, this news about protesters try to start a massive, [&#8230;]</p>
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