Comments on: Obama Wins Cap and Trade War to Cut Ozone Pollution http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: Anonymous http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-105111 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:59:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-105111 haha, if only…

it CAN pollute less. it would do so by investing in new and better technology, which has to be developed and built by people, which creates good U.S. jobs.

there is no evidence that regulation kills jobs, on the whole.

it may create jobs for new technologies and services and some jobs in old technology markets may be lost. but generally, that means creating MORE jobs

we don’t use whale oil anymore. we don’t use torches anymore. we don’t heat our buildings with sticks. did a transition away from these things make us lose jobs?

]]> By: Anonymous http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-105110 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:56:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-105110 Are you kidding?

First of all, 83% of Americans believe in global warming now (http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/09/16/321246/public-opinion-world-is-warming-rick-perry-reports-reuters/)

which is not really a surprise since the following organizations have backed up the climate scientists and said that global warming is happening and is caused by humans (and we need to do something about it):

U.S. Agency for International Development
United States Department of Agriculture
National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration
National Institute of Standards and Technology
United States Department of Defense
United States Department of Energy
National Institutes of Health
United States Department of State
United States Department of Transportation
U.S. Geological Survey
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Aeronautics & Space Administration
National Science Foundation
Smithsonian Institution
International Arctic Science Committee
Arctic Council
African Academy of Sciences
Australian Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
Academia Brasileira de Ciéncias
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Royal Society of Canada
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Académie des Sciences, France
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina of Germany
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Royal Irish Academy
Accademia nazionale delle scienze of Italy
Indian National Science Academy
Science Council of Japan
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
Madagascar’s National Academy of Arts, Letters and Sciences
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Royal Society of New Zealand
Polish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
l’Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Academy of Science of South Africa
Sudan Academy of Sciences
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
Turkish Academy of Sciences
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
The Royal Society of the United Kingdom
National Academy of Sciences, United States
Zambia Academy of Sciences
Zimbabwe Academy of Science
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Physics
American Medical Association
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Quaternary Association
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Society of Agronomy
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Botanical Society of America
Crop Science Society of America
Ecological Society of America
Federation of American Scientists
Geological Society of America
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Society of American Foresters
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Engineers Australia
Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
Geological Society of Australia
British Antarctic Survey
Institute of Biology, UK
Royal Meteorological Society, UK
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization

more links on why they support the climate scientists:

http://planetsave.com/2010/08/18/humans-cause-global-warming-10-indicators/

http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm

and, lastly, it seems you didn’t notice that we have a whole category dedicated to josb and we write on the matter a TON.

but i have a feeling you’re not a CT reader..

]]> By: Cjbailey7777 http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-105108 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:47:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-105108 Obama win = American people loss

]]> By: Cjbailey7777 http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-105107 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:46:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-105107 Tell me how this creates jobs? You tax a company for pollution… 1. it now has to pay a penalty/tax 2. It can’t fix the pollution, just paid a penalty 3. raises prices to cover the penalty/tax 4. lays off employees to pay for recession of sales because of higher prices 5. goes bankrupt, everyone loses their jobs and government covers losses.

I fail to see new jobs…

]]> By: Cjbailey7777 http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-105106 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:43:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-105106 Climate Change? Really? When will you wake up and realize that no one believes in man-made climate change anymore? Forget about influencing the environment and start helping humans find jobs! Seriously!

]]> By: Anonymous http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-104717 Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:27:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-104717 You’re missing one key point:

This will create jobs, not kill them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-104716 Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:26:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-104716 Thanks, totally agree.

Great find by Susan.

]]> By: Paul Burke http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-104712 Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:45:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-104712 Well how do you do – the President gets a “win” – and therefore the middle class does as well. Will this story go out on the AP Wire- will Faux News announce it – will corporate media trumpet it – no I didn’t think so – its up to all of us to circulate this story far and wide – I’ll do my part – will you?

]]> By: None http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-104710 Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:39:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-104710 So.. the Obama administration works to destroy more American jobs. Hurray?

Fortunately, this scam will only last until Obama is thrown from office.

]]> By: Anonymous http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-104664 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:03:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-104664 This is awesome! Thanks for the post, Susan :D

Fun read, too :D

]]> By: Anonymous http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/18/obama-wins-cap-and-trade-war-to-cut-ozone-pollution/#comment-104655 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 06:05:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=30531#comment-104655 Yes.

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