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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-117683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the average lifespan for nuclear plants is about 20 years&quot;

I&#039;ve got a book about the old barns of America.  In the forward the author addresses the issue of how well barns were built &#039;back then&#039;.  

His response is that barns of all qualities were built. The really well built ones survived.

It does seem that the nuclear industry is giving us a tour of the best built plants when they talk of their high  capacity.  

They plot the route so that we don&#039;t drive past the rotting hulks of the plants that closed early.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the average lifespan for nuclear plants is about 20 years&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a book about the old barns of America.  In the forward the author addresses the issue of how well barns were built &#8216;back then&#8217;.  </p>
<p>His response is that barns of all qualities were built. The really well built ones survived.</p>
<p>It does seem that the nuclear industry is giving us a tour of the best built plants when they talk of their high  capacity.  </p>
<p>They plot the route so that we don&#8217;t drive past the rotting hulks of the plants that closed early.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-117679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. We covered that too: http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/17/renewable-energy-passed-up-nuclear-in-2010/ 
&amp; no looking back..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. We covered that too: <a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/17/renewable-energy-passed-up-nuclear-in-2010/" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/17/renewable-energy-passed-up-nuclear-in-2010/</a><br />
&amp; no looking back..</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-117677</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On cost vs capacity factor: Exactly.

On nuclear: the cost of taking care of nuclear waste for longer than humans have existed for should also be taken into account in the price and isn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On cost vs capacity factor: Exactly.</p>
<p>On nuclear: the cost of taking care of nuclear waste for longer than humans have existed for should also be taken into account in the price and isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: aligatorhardt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-117664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aligatorhardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These numbers are also subject to interpretation. Some comparisons of renewables against nuclear power include non electric power, or heat, which nuclear uses, but renewable energy except solar water heating does not. When electricity is measured, renewable energy passed nuclear in the US in 2010.
http://www.energyboom.com/emerging/renewable-energy-production-rises-us-nuclear-numbers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These numbers are also subject to interpretation. Some comparisons of renewables against nuclear power include non electric power, or heat, which nuclear uses, but renewable energy except solar water heating does not. When electricity is measured, renewable energy passed nuclear in the US in 2010.<br />
<a href="http://www.energyboom.com/emerging/renewable-energy-production-rises-us-nuclear-numbers" rel="nofollow">http://www.energyboom.com/emerging/renewable-energy-production-rises-us-nuclear-numbers</a></p>
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		<title>By: aligatorhardt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-117663</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We constantly see opponents of wind talking about capacity factors. These numbers do not explain that wind turbines must have the ability to withstand gale force winds, so obviously the capacity is higher than the expected average use. No other system has the extremes of wind so those comparisons of &quot;capacity factors&quot; are worthless. What is important is production values, and again wind power is different because of the variability of the wind resource.  The important number is the electricity produced compared to the money invested.
 Nuclear power claims capacities of 90%, but examined across the industry over time, those numbers are significantly less as we consider outages at nuclear plants that often extend years or months before restarting, and consider the number of plants that do not run for their expected lifespan for various reasons. the average lifespan for nuclear plants is about 20 years, even though most are designed for a 40 year lifespan. So historically, the stated capacity factor of 90% is really more like 45% in service, while average offshore wind is 40% of rated capacity. In times of strong wind, turbine electric production can surge to double the average, but nuclear power seldom increases over stated capacity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We constantly see opponents of wind talking about capacity factors. These numbers do not explain that wind turbines must have the ability to withstand gale force winds, so obviously the capacity is higher than the expected average use. No other system has the extremes of wind so those comparisons of &#8220;capacity factors&#8221; are worthless. What is important is production values, and again wind power is different because of the variability of the wind resource.  The important number is the electricity produced compared to the money invested.<br />
 Nuclear power claims capacities of 90%, but examined across the industry over time, those numbers are significantly less as we consider outages at nuclear plants that often extend years or months before restarting, and consider the number of plants that do not run for their expected lifespan for various reasons. the average lifespan for nuclear plants is about 20 years, even though most are designed for a 40 year lifespan. So historically, the stated capacity factor of 90% is really more like 45% in service, while average offshore wind is 40% of rated capacity. In times of strong wind, turbine electric production can surge to double the average, but nuclear power seldom increases over stated capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: aligatorhardt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aligatorhardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look to Obama&#039;s executive order to the military to create energy security and lower costs with renewable energy installations. The amount of equipment being purchased by the military is improving supply chains and production volumes. Military land is not subject to NIMBY opposition, and no one can make a political negative out of saving money from military expenses, while improving security and readiness for troops.  It can cost up to $400 a gallon to supply fuel to foreword troops in the mountains of Afghanistan. As much as 2/3 of troop fatalities come from attacks on fuel convoys. The use of solar and wind for field operations saves lives and reduced the amount of batteries needed for operations at temporary bases.
  The record keeping by the military use of renewable energy is valuable in determining which technologies and systems pay off the best, providing a testing service which is greatly needed.
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/08/the-us-army-has-the-land-and-the-demand-for-renewable-energy?cmpid=WNL-Friday-August12-2011]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look to Obama&#8217;s executive order to the military to create energy security and lower costs with renewable energy installations. The amount of equipment being purchased by the military is improving supply chains and production volumes. Military land is not subject to NIMBY opposition, and no one can make a political negative out of saving money from military expenses, while improving security and readiness for troops.  It can cost up to $400 a gallon to supply fuel to foreword troops in the mountains of Afghanistan. As much as 2/3 of troop fatalities come from attacks on fuel convoys. The use of solar and wind for field operations saves lives and reduced the amount of batteries needed for operations at temporary bases.<br />
  The record keeping by the military use of renewable energy is valuable in determining which technologies and systems pay off the best, providing a testing service which is greatly needed.<br />
<a href="http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/08/the-us-army-has-the-land-and-the-demand-for-renewable-energy?cmpid=WNL-Friday-August12-2011" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/08/the-us-army-has-the-land-and-the-demand-for-renewable-energy?cmpid=WNL-Friday-August12-2011</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said.

Wonderful wording skills :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.</p>
<p>Wonderful wording skills <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Higgins</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Higgins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are rapidly being left in the dust of history.  Other countries who have maintained legislative autonomy from the oil barons are speeding off into the renewable energy future. 

They must be laughing in the rear view mirror at the sight of our scramble to build something as absurd as a 1700 mile bituminous toxin pipeline across our central breadbasket and water supply.

The inscription in the mirror says &quot;You&#039;re farther behind than it appears.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are rapidly being left in the dust of history.  Other countries who have maintained legislative autonomy from the oil barons are speeding off into the renewable energy future. </p>
<p>They must be laughing in the rear view mirror at the sight of our scramble to build something as absurd as a 1700 mile bituminous toxin pipeline across our central breadbasket and water supply.</p>
<p>The inscription in the mirror says &#8220;You&#8217;re farther behind than it appears.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 11:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Republicans in congress are preventing clean energy, not Democrats. Presidents have little immediate effect on legislation as congress writes and passes legislation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans in congress are preventing clean energy, not Democrats. Presidents have little immediate effect on legislation as congress writes and passes legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, talking about &quot;installed (nameplate) capacity&quot; is confusing.   Talking about capacity factor in isolation is confusing.  Talking about source percentage output is not.  

We know that our grid is about 44% coal, 20% nuclear, 9% renewable, whatever.  We know that wind was 2% last year and is reaching 3% this year.  These are meaningful numbers.  They allow us to contrast and compare.

Nameplate capacity is meaningless when the percentage of hours different technologies operate at capacity (or percentage of capacity) is different.

You can&#039;t compare offshore wind which might have a 50% capacity factor with solar which might have a 20% capacity factor on nameplate capacity alone.  One meg of wind, nameplate, will yield 2.5x as much power as one meg of PV.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, talking about &#8220;installed (nameplate) capacity&#8221; is confusing.   Talking about capacity factor in isolation is confusing.  Talking about source percentage output is not.  </p>
<p>We know that our grid is about 44% coal, 20% nuclear, 9% renewable, whatever.  We know that wind was 2% last year and is reaching 3% this year.  These are meaningful numbers.  They allow us to contrast and compare.</p>
<p>Nameplate capacity is meaningless when the percentage of hours different technologies operate at capacity (or percentage of capacity) is different.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t compare offshore wind which might have a 50% capacity factor with solar which might have a 20% capacity factor on nameplate capacity alone.  One meg of wind, nameplate, will yield 2.5x as much power as one meg of PV.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueRock</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104176</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlueRock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uhh, yeah. There&#039;s still work left to do. Obviously.

I provided stats that clearly show where we&#039;re headed. Anyone who can&#039;t understand the implications of that report most likely does not want to.

P.S. You&#039;d do better to provide total renewable generation, e.g. Germany just went over 20%. Or announced targets: Scotland talking about 100% renewable electricity by 2020.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhh, yeah. There&#8217;s still work left to do. Obviously.</p>
<p>I provided stats that clearly show where we&#8217;re headed. Anyone who can&#8217;t understand the implications of that report most likely does not want to.</p>
<p>P.S. You&#8217;d do better to provide total renewable generation, e.g. Germany just went over 20%. Or announced targets: Scotland talking about 100% renewable electricity by 2020.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueRock</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlueRock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope. Same issue. Again: capacity factor is a red herring used by fossil / nuke lobbies to confuse the unwary.

I&#039;ve seen the uninformed / misinformers claim &quot;until they improve the capacity factor of wind @ 30% it will never compete with nuclear @ 90%.&quot; It is, of course, nonsense. You just build more wind turbines and spread them apart to collect all that &#039;free&#039; energy.

There isn&#039;t &quot;a better measurement than nameplate capacity&quot;. You can&#039;t distil the myriad factors in to a single number. Not possible.

Note: obviously capacity factor is a useful and necessary statistic. I&#039;m saying it&#039;s mostly not used as such. It&#039;s mostly used to confuse in the public &#039;debate&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. Same issue. Again: capacity factor is a red herring used by fossil / nuke lobbies to confuse the unwary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the uninformed / misinformers claim &#8220;until they improve the capacity factor of wind @ 30% it will never compete with nuclear @ 90%.&#8221; It is, of course, nonsense. You just build more wind turbines and spread them apart to collect all that &#8216;free&#8217; energy.</p>
<p>There isn&#8217;t &#8220;a better measurement than nameplate capacity&#8221;. You can&#8217;t distil the myriad factors in to a single number. Not possible.</p>
<p>Note: obviously capacity factor is a useful and necessary statistic. I&#8217;m saying it&#8217;s mostly not used as such. It&#8217;s mostly used to confuse in the public &#8216;debate&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First quarter of 2011 wind produced 2.5% of all US electricity.  I think one month since logged 3%.  

Nuclear produces about 18%, so we have work left to do.

In 2010 wind produced 21% of electricity in Denmark, 18% in Portugal, 16% in Spain, 14% in Ireland and 9% in Germany.  We&#039;re installing wind faster and we can catch up with them.

Those are more meaningful numbers.  They can&#039;t be easily dismissed by people like John.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First quarter of 2011 wind produced 2.5% of all US electricity.  I think one month since logged 3%.  </p>
<p>Nuclear produces about 18%, so we have work left to do.</p>
<p>In 2010 wind produced 21% of electricity in Denmark, 18% in Portugal, 16% in Spain, 14% in Ireland and 9% in Germany.  We&#8217;re installing wind faster and we can catch up with them.</p>
<p>Those are more meaningful numbers.  They can&#8217;t be easily dismissed by people like John.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you think he is not aware?

Are you not aware of how often he has visited renewable energy equipment factories the last year and how much of the stimulus money he steered into renewable energy and electric vehicles?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think he is not aware?</p>
<p>Are you not aware of how often he has visited renewable energy equipment factories the last year and how much of the stimulus money he steered into renewable energy and electric vehicles?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re making the issue something different.

What I was talking about is using a better metric for determining the percentage of electricity we get from each source.

Time of production is important, but different.  Solar can be very valuable because it produces when demand is generally highest.  Utilities pay serious money for peak hour power and solar can be a bargain.

Protection against future increases in fuel costs is another advantage of renewable energy.  Utilities can install wind, solar or geothermal knowing that their future costs are largely fixed and not subject to spiraling fossil fuel prices.

Capacity is not a red herring, it&#039;s a useful statistic.  We need to have a measurement of how much renewable generation we&#039;ve brought on line and how large the job ahead of us is.  We just need a better measurement than nameplate capacity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re making the issue something different.</p>
<p>What I was talking about is using a better metric for determining the percentage of electricity we get from each source.</p>
<p>Time of production is important, but different.  Solar can be very valuable because it produces when demand is generally highest.  Utilities pay serious money for peak hour power and solar can be a bargain.</p>
<p>Protection against future increases in fuel costs is another advantage of renewable energy.  Utilities can install wind, solar or geothermal knowing that their future costs are largely fixed and not subject to spiraling fossil fuel prices.</p>
<p>Capacity is not a red herring, it&#8217;s a useful statistic.  We need to have a measurement of how much renewable generation we&#8217;ve brought on line and how large the job ahead of us is.  We just need a better measurement than nameplate capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueRock</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlueRock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. There&#039;s plenty to celebrate even if the battle is not yet won:

* Renewables 2011 Global Status Report. Renewable energy accounted for approximately half of the estimated 194 gigawatts (GW) of new electric capacity added globally during 2010. Global investments in renewables up over 30% to a record $211 billion. http://www.ren21.net/REN21Activities/Publications/GlobalStatusReport/GSR2011/tabid/56142/Default.aspx + http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/2011/07/14/renewables-2011-global-status-report-released/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. There&#8217;s plenty to celebrate even if the battle is not yet won:</p>
<p>* Renewables 2011 Global Status Report. Renewable energy accounted for approximately half of the estimated 194 gigawatts (GW) of new electric capacity added globally during 2010. Global investments in renewables up over 30% to a record $211 billion. <a href="http://www.ren21.net/REN21Activities/Publications/GlobalStatusReport/GSR2011/tabid/56142/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ren21.net/REN21Activities/Publications/GlobalStatusReport/GSR2011/tabid/56142/Default.aspx</a> + <a href="http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/2011/07/14/renewables-2011-global-status-report-released/" rel="nofollow">http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/2011/07/14/renewables-2011-global-status-report-released/</a></p>
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		<title>By: BlueRock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlueRock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That would make sense if demand was constant. It&#039;s not.

Solar doesn&#039;t produce much electricity between midnight and 6 am - but people don&#039;t need much electricity then either. So, criticising solar for having a &#039;low&#039; capacity factor is misleading.

Similarly, nuclear&#039;s &#039;high&#039; capacity factor (which is actually closer to 70 or 80% worldwide) is not necessarily a benefit. E.g. France has to import electricity at times of high demand (and pays top price) while exporting during periods of low demand (and is paid bottom price).

Also, capacity factor is only one part of the energy equation. Free fuel forever and no emissions and no toxic waste and no risk of catastrophic failure are significant factors that leave nukes at a distinct disadvantage.

Capacity factor is largely a red herring used to try and beat down renewables. The fossil / nuke lobbies have little else to work with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would make sense if demand was constant. It&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>Solar doesn&#8217;t produce much electricity between midnight and 6 am &#8211; but people don&#8217;t need much electricity then either. So, criticising solar for having a &#8216;low&#8217; capacity factor is misleading.</p>
<p>Similarly, nuclear&#8217;s &#8216;high&#8217; capacity factor (which is actually closer to 70 or 80% worldwide) is not necessarily a benefit. E.g. France has to import electricity at times of high demand (and pays top price) while exporting during periods of low demand (and is paid bottom price).</p>
<p>Also, capacity factor is only one part of the energy equation. Free fuel forever and no emissions and no toxic waste and no risk of catastrophic failure are significant factors that leave nukes at a distinct disadvantage.</p>
<p>Capacity factor is largely a red herring used to try and beat down renewables. The fossil / nuke lobbies have little else to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104149</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somebody should tell this to Obama.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104139</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We really do need to use some measurement of renewables other than &#039;nameplate&#039; capacity.

No generation source is 100% always on.  Using maximum output numbers as a metric is not a very accurate way to describe how much each generation technology is providing to our overall total.

Wind is likely somewhere between 25% and 40% worldwide.  Nuclear is probably about 90%.  It&#039;s going to take 3x or more nameplate wind to equal nameplate nuclear.  Solar worldwide is likely under 20% of nameplate.

The big celebration should come when output from renewables surpasses nuclear.

No, the big celebration should come when output from renewables starts closing down fossil fuel generation.  (Hopefully we dodge any more nuclear meltdowns in the interim.)



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We really do need to use some measurement of renewables other than &#8216;nameplate&#8217; capacity.</p>
<p>No generation source is 100% always on.  Using maximum output numbers as a metric is not a very accurate way to describe how much each generation technology is providing to our overall total.</p>
<p>Wind is likely somewhere between 25% and 40% worldwide.  Nuclear is probably about 90%.  It&#8217;s going to take 3x or more nameplate wind to equal nameplate nuclear.  Solar worldwide is likely under 20% of nameplate.</p>
<p>The big celebration should come when output from renewables surpasses nuclear.</p>
<p>No, the big celebration should come when output from renewables starts closing down fossil fuel generation.  (Hopefully we dodge any more nuclear meltdowns in the interim.)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/05/global-renewable-capacity-has-now-exceeded-nuclear/#comment-104136</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 05:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wake me up when it&#039;s total energy produced instead of the imaginary installed renewable capacity. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake me up when it&#8217;s total energy produced instead of the imaginary installed renewable capacity. </p>
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